chopperscot wrote:What I hear here, with my old un educated brain is " moan moan, you can't do that, moan, don't be stupid, moan, don't change anything everything's fine, whinge, etc"
So lets have some mature counter-arguments made, backed up with facts (or even SNP policies if you like!), as others have done. Its still an open debate, despite some wanting it closed down. No need to reduce it to accusing others of being RAF (me neither), English born, loyal to the Queen, or even the classic... "i see you come from the north of scotland"
As i mentioned earlier, speaking with Scots at work, this whole debate has been lacking in clear (ideally independent) facts, to help people make a reasonably informed judgement on independence and vote accordingly. Instead its been reduced to what people see in tabloids and on TV, and hear down the pub etc.
Malcolm has been making some reasoned points and clear facts (anyone dispute the figures on HMG income from oil and gas?), and early on i pushed him on the issue of Scotland's share of the the UK's national debt. Despite stating "HMG has already said that all current UK debts/borrowing will remain UK debts/borrowing", we still have the subject of carving up assests, like a messy divorce. If correct then, Scotland gets away scot-free (sorry) with their share of £1.5 Trillion of national debt, but then can't cherry pick this and that. Would be a cleaner divorce (excluding the Faslane issue), though maybe hardly fair on the rest of the UK?
Topol-M wrote:I live in Scotland, ex RAF and Work for a UK company, controlling skies in England from a building in Scotland. Some of my family are Scottish, but live in England, whilst some of my English family live in Scotland
As someone mentioned earlier, this is "not a representative vote" due to the fact that "thousands of full Scots who currently work/live outside Scotland" will not be eligible to vote. Maybe i'll get shot down for saying this, but politics aside, most people in the UK don't see each other as foreigners, and that the UK IS a sovereign state (despite ancient walls etc), where British people have freely moved around etc, so much for such a long time now. So, to now try and label people this or that, you can vote but you can't, could never be fair. But, with the separatist SNP in power, means that this is the consequence, and it has to be managed as fairly as possible.
Even in 2014, how many countries respect (or avoid) the UN charter of right of self determination? How many people are denied this? Might not be pleasent for Canada or Spain for example, to lose a chunk of their country (Quebec and the Basque/Catalan regions), but if thats what the people want, despite the complications, they have that right to decide? So, as long as Scots vote for the SNP, this issue might never go away for the UK. But, seeing how HMG respects this right, compared to 'no' and civil wars elsewhere, certainly makes me proud to be British. GBTQ.
And where would we station our half-dozen Aircraft? No way would it be viable to keep Leuchars or Lossie open for such a small group so you're looking at the civvy airfields - Inverness/Aberdeen/Glasgow/Edinburgh/Perth or Prestwick etc. Just think what relocating to these airfields would do to our hobby - no popping down for an hour or two before work 
