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Royal International Air Tattoo 2019 Discussion Thread

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Re: Royal International Air Tattoo 2019 Discussion Thread

Post by luke28 » Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:44 pm

This year is far from a classic but it is still arguably the best and varied line up you're going to see in the world. DBH consistently do it year after year while making a profit which sees a sizeable portion go to Charity. There is no logical reason to think about making it bi-annual.

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Re: Royal International Air Tattoo 2019 Discussion Thread

Post by Gary » Mon Jul 15, 2019 7:10 pm

Lots of rumours of a B-2 flypast on Sunday according to various facebook pages.

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Re: Royal International Air Tattoo 2019 Discussion Thread

Post by plmc135 » Mon Jul 15, 2019 7:37 pm

TomTwin wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 4:55 pm
fisherman wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:49 pm
plmc135 wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:30 pm


If you accept that the two events at North Weald in the early 70's were the birth place of IAT and RIAT, then you must remember that a Britannia Airways Boeing 737 was one of the "highlights" of the show in 1972 and a Trans Meridian CL-44 was on static display. So going back to square one would men more "civil junk" than now. Time for RIAT to take a break and re-assess where it wants to go. The cow cannot be for ever milking. :ninja:
Entirely agree that RIAT has lost its way, perhaps it should become a bi-annual show as it once had been and feature a much stronger central theme. This year there are fewer funds across the Globe, and Countries like France are heavily committed to conflicts like Mali, and they had Bastille Day last Sunday, what a line up they assembled for that.
Yes, full marks to RIAT but...
STRONGLY disagree on RIAT becoming Bi-Annual. Would be a nightmare to have to wait two years instead of just one. Already bad enough that it’s been a week or so longer to this one.
No doubt you are aware that IAT/RIAT was a bi-annual event at one time. It actually made the wait even better because in those days it was worth waiting for. I think there are now several other shows in Europe that seem to attract better participants than RIAT. Volkel got F-35A's, RIAT struggling to get an F-35 at all.

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Re: Royal International Air Tattoo 2019 Discussion Thread

Post by MRTT » Mon Jul 15, 2019 7:45 pm

That as may be but, I don't seem to remember Romanian MiG-21s, Ukrainian Su-27s or Spanish AV-8Bs at Volkel?

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Re: Royal International Air Tattoo 2019 Discussion Thread

Post by luke28 » Mon Jul 15, 2019 7:49 pm

RIAT has had the F-35 for the past 4 years, what a strange example to give.

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Post by James Cutting » Mon Jul 15, 2019 7:56 pm

Gary wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 7:10 pm
Lots of rumours of a B-2 flypast on Sunday according to various facebook pages.
:ninja: :pop:
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Re: Royal International Air Tattoo 2019 Discussion Thread

Post by Tronk 11 » Mon Jul 15, 2019 8:02 pm

Looking for some advice. I went to the west loop last year which was fairly chilled, but missed a few that turned off early. Can anyone tell me what the east park and view is like, and which is the best?

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Post by MRTT » Mon Jul 15, 2019 8:04 pm

If you want to see everything airborne, then East is by far the better option. Busier than West but, if you arrive early enough, it shouldn't be a problem.

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Re: Royal International Air Tattoo 2019 Discussion Thread

Post by Tronk 11 » Mon Jul 15, 2019 8:07 pm

Thanks mrtt.

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Post by James Cutting » Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:35 pm

Agree there, though for departures it's different. If they are on 27 end (East) you may want to be at 09 end (West) to get anything airborne.

If for arrivals then MRTT is on the money (again, runway depends).
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Re: Royal International Air Tattoo 2019 Discussion Thread

Post by fisherman » Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:39 pm

plmc135 wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 7:37 pm
TomTwin wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 4:55 pm
fisherman wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:49 pm

Entirely agree that RIAT has lost its way, perhaps it should become a bi-annual show as it once had been and feature a much stronger central theme. This year there are fewer funds across the Globe, and Countries like France are heavily committed to conflicts like Mali, and they had Bastille Day last Sunday, what a line up they assembled for that.
Yes, full marks to RIAT but...
STRONGLY disagree on RIAT becoming Bi-Annual. Would be a nightmare to have to wait two years instead of just one. Already bad enough that it’s been a week or so longer to this one.
No doubt you are aware that IAT/RIAT was a bi-annual event at one time. It actually made the wait even better because in those days it was worth waiting for. I think there are now several other shows in Europe that seem to attract better participants than RIAT. Volkel got F-35A's, RIAT struggling to get an F-35 at all.
I guess that perhaps it comes with age and the memories of the past. There have been fabulous shows all over Europe and beyond with extremely rare aircraft, but RIAT holds the title of the Worlds biggest military show... perhaps a harder claim to hold on to in the modern time.

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Re: Royal International Air Tattoo 2019 Discussion Thread

Post by Nighthawke » Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:59 pm

Note that the word "military" is not qualified by such words as "solely, "purely" or " only" :P

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Re: Royal International Air Tattoo 2019 Discussion Thread

Post by Zonan » Mon Jul 15, 2019 10:21 pm

Gary wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 7:10 pm
Lots of rumours of a B-2 flypast on Sunday according to various facebook pages.
If that's true, at what time would that be?
And is it possible to see this from outside riat? I don't have Sunday tickets and my flight from Bristol departs around 17:40 so maybe I could be able to catch it still :)

Also, is there any chance it lands at Brize? I will most likely be going there on Sunday and Friday

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Re: Royal International Air Tattoo 2019 Discussion Thread

Post by seven » Mon Jul 15, 2019 10:51 pm

It's just a rumour, and until confirmed by DBH or the USAF thats all it will be.

If by any chance one does turn up, it'll most likely be late afternoon, as has every other global power flypast. And they usually do not land in the UK afterwards.

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Re: Royal International Air Tattoo 2019 Discussion Thread

Post by jasonT1981 » Tue Jul 16, 2019 2:46 am

luke28 wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 7:49 pm
RIAT has had the F-35 for the past 4 years, what a strange example to give.
2016 & 2018 are the only times RIAT has had an F35 though?
plmc135 wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 7:37 pm
Volkel got F-35A's, RIAT struggling to get an F-35 at all.
Not really struggling. The RAF doesn't have a fully worked up display and the one of the only F35 displays is in America and booked elsewhere yet RIAT has the F35 down for 2 of the show days. Looks like only one F35 in Volkel flying too.
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Re: Royal International Air Tattoo 2019 Discussion Thread

Post by StrawdogUK69 » Tue Jul 16, 2019 6:24 am

Well here we go ... enough of the waffle and moaning... let's just enjoy the RIAT . Have a great time everyone

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Re: Royal International Air Tattoo 2019 Discussion Thread

Post by StrawdogUK69 » Tue Jul 16, 2019 6:24 am

Well here we go ... enough of the waffle and moaning... let's just enjoy the RIAT . Have a great time everyone

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Re: Royal International Air Tattoo 2019 Discussion Thread

Post by ShoreRam » Tue Jul 16, 2019 6:32 am

StrawdogUK69 wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2019 6:24 am
Well here we go ... enough of the waffle and moaning... let's just enjoy the RIAT . Have a great time everyone
Quite - Excitement up to the max, wind direction looks good for me :-)

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Re: Royal International Air Tattoo 2019 Discussion Thread

Post by StrawdogUK69 » Tue Jul 16, 2019 6:48 am

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Re: Royal International Air Tattoo 2019 Discussion Thread

Post by Flightech » Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:04 am

It looks like it's rain Fri PM and heavy rain on Fri night which means the grass will be soaking wet on sat and it's light rain for the while day. May need some wellies !

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