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Vulcan ..A very hard act to follow...BUT

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Vulcan ..A very hard act to follow...BUT

Post by Mikedee » Thu Nov 05, 2015 2:55 pm

Long long ago, I really did read that somewhere in sunny Lincolnshire, waiting in the wings and all ready to go when the Vulcan finally withdrew from the display circuit ,there was .....a Buccaneer.......

Never did hear any more about it, and who in their wildest dreams many years ago, would have imagined the the overwhelming success of 558.....

Probably all "Pie in The Sky"

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Post by XPLUMBER » Thu Nov 05, 2015 3:00 pm

That Buccaneer is parked in the corner of a small hangar at RAF Scampton!

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Post by paddyboy » Thu Nov 05, 2015 3:50 pm

Ahhhhh :O

Memories of the 'Hall, with a 'banana bomber' coming in fast and l-o-w from the Mildenhall end, so low it was unbelievable, and with her Speys doing more than a bit of crop-dusting to the Suffolk air :O

Splendid thought to be able to see one again ;)

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Post by mirage41 » Thu Nov 05, 2015 10:55 pm

Count me in on the Hawker Siddeley Bulldozer, 7 years A/Fitt/E - 237 OCU.

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Post by The Phantom » Fri Nov 06, 2015 7:06 am

paddyboy wrote:Ahhhhh :O

Memories of the 'Hall, with a 'banana bomber' coming in fast and l-o-w from the Mildenhall end, so low it was unbelievable, and with her Speys doing more than a bit of crop-dusting to the Suffolk air :O

Splendid thought to be able to see one again ;)

best regards

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I've often thought at modern airshows when the commentator says a certain fighter jet is doing a 'fast low pass' (about 250 feet up), that they clearly never saw the low passes that used to be done in the old days - particularly the Buccaneer!

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Post by Andy_99 » Fri Nov 06, 2015 12:31 pm

The Phantom wrote:
paddyboy wrote:Ahhhhh :O

Memories of the 'Hall, with a 'banana bomber' coming in fast and l-o-w from the Mildenhall end, so low it was unbelievable, and with her Speys doing more than a bit of crop-dusting to the Suffolk air :O

Splendid thought to be able to see one again ;)

best regards

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I've often thought at modern airshows when the commentator says a certain fighter jet is doing a 'fast low pass' (about 250 feet up), that they clearly never saw the low passes that used to be done in the old days - particularly the Buccaneer!
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Post by C24 » Sat Nov 07, 2015 10:38 am

How about watching two of them trying to sink the "Torrey Canyon" in March 1967?
Buccaneers, of course, not Vulcans!
I am certain that it didn't sink as a result of a concerted attack.
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Post by POL » Sat Nov 07, 2015 11:31 am

Why would Hawker Hunter Aviation sell an aircraft they have maintained in an airworthy condition, just so some people can go off on jollys at airshows in it?

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Post by Chough » Sat Nov 07, 2015 12:09 pm

How about the Coventry based Shackleton or East Kirkby's Lancaster as the next big success story gracing our skies though I appreciate it may be some time before either is ready to take to the skies

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Post by C24 » Sat Nov 07, 2015 1:36 pm

We do not seem to get our "act" together.
A Shackleton at Newquay and one at Coventry, both work in progress, neither in a hangar. A perfect project for ?
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Post by mirage41 » Sat Nov 07, 2015 10:55 pm

C24,
As I recall, numerous good training attacks by Buccaneers failed to shift the Torrey Canyon.
In the end our Navy friends popped one shell into her - end of !

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Post by Vulcanone » Sat Nov 07, 2015 11:22 pm

C24

The Shackleton at St Mawgan is a very unlikely candidate to fly ever again. And SPT at Coventry have said that VttS are not taking on WR963, and they are frankly doing ok anyway so need any help from The mob at Doncaster/

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Post by C24 » Sun Nov 08, 2015 8:27 am

I am unsure about the end of the Torrey Canyon but I am certain that the Buccaneer attempts were unsuccessful. What brought this to mind was that the Buccaneer attack was their then current nuclear approach which is the same manoeuvre recorded by Blackman when discussing Vulcan naughty aeros.
Pulling up in an incomplete loop, rolling off the top to reverse direction (avoiding blast from the bomb).

The point about the Shackletons is that we, as a Nation, have large amounts of money tied up in old buildings but do not have any coordination for preserving items that represent our real achievements.
I have been fortunate to visit four aircraft museums this year, including Coventry and it makes me sad to see the inadequate provision for the items. Please do not misunderstand me, the volunteers are doing a great job, just imagine the result if we could amalgamate their efforts with the NT and use some of the funding available there. (And all the storage space).
:roll: I will sign off and check my Lotto ticket ;)
Good luck to all involved in preservation.
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This article illustrates my point about a lack of national coordination but regardless of that, people are successful in a limited way.
http://www.aviationmuseum.net/News.html

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Post by NAM Updater » Sun Nov 08, 2015 9:49 am

At least one 'Torrey Canyon Buccaneer' is preserved in the UK – details of a 2008 anniversary can be found in here! :)

A few additional Log Book entries resulted from that appeal. :thumb:
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Post by Firefighter » Sun Nov 08, 2015 11:13 am

My Wife when working in Ops, at Honington, took a phone call from a farmer who complained about a low flying Bucc', he had to open the gate to the field to let it out.

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Post by Blue Diamond » Sun Nov 08, 2015 12:58 pm

paddyboy wrote:Ahhhhh :O

Memories of the 'Hall, with a 'banana bomber' coming in fast and l-o-w from the Mildenhall end, so low it was unbelievable, and with her Speys doing more than a bit of crop-dusting to the Suffolk air :O

Splendid thought to be able to see one again ;)

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Reminds me of one that appeared at Shuttleworth many years ago. Came in low and fast and was gone in an instant. "Don't worry" said Roger the commentator, "he was just having quick look at the airfield and he'll be back in a minute." Happy days :)
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Post by paddyboy » Sun Nov 08, 2015 3:55 pm

I wonder if that 'Roger' could have been the legend of Mildenhall that was Roger Hoefling :S

Not only a superb commentator, able to speak to all age groups and levels of interest, but a positive mine of info for the masses assembled :thumb:

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Post by willow70 » Sun Nov 08, 2015 4:54 pm

I think the main problem was it happened over a weekend so the RAF was closed til monday 1030.

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Post by Agent K » Mon Nov 09, 2015 6:57 am

Lowfly11 wrote:Used to love departure days at RAF Finningley..some fast jets would depart,come back round straight down the runway and pull up vertical..burners on :cool: :cool:..personally i would like to see Shackleton,Phantom and whatever else comes along in the future..back into the UK skies..barring piles of paperwork and red tape.
Which aircraft are you talking about here? (the Vulcan didn't have burners)

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Post by richw_82 » Mon Nov 09, 2015 9:00 am

C24 wrote:We do not seem to get our "act" together.
A Shackleton at Newquay and one at Coventry, both work in progress, neither in a hangar. A perfect project for ?
I can assure you, we have our act together - and the lack of a hangar is due to the fact that there's only one place big enough at Coventry to accomodate a Shackleton, and its already occupied. So we wait our turn.

A perfect project for ? Those already working on it. :thumb:

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