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Vulcan ..A very hard act to follow...BUT
Vulcan ..A very hard act to follow...BUT
Long long ago, I really did read that somewhere in sunny Lincolnshire, waiting in the wings and all ready to go when the Vulcan finally withdrew from the display circuit ,there was .....a Buccaneer.......
Never did hear any more about it, and who in their wildest dreams many years ago, would have imagined the the overwhelming success of 558.....
Probably all "Pie in The Sky"
"Don't blame me, only repeating what I read " When I joined "Vulcan to the Sky, " as member 55. I swore it would 'Never ever Fly' .....muppett
Never did hear any more about it, and who in their wildest dreams many years ago, would have imagined the the overwhelming success of 558.....
Probably all "Pie in The Sky"
"Don't blame me, only repeating what I read " When I joined "Vulcan to the Sky, " as member 55. I swore it would 'Never ever Fly' .....muppett
Re: Vulcan ..A very hard act to follow...BUT
That Buccaneer is parked in the corner of a small hangar at RAF Scampton!
Re: Vulcan ..A very hard act to follow...BUT
Ahhhhh
Memories of the 'Hall, with a 'banana bomber' coming in fast and l-o-w from the Mildenhall end, so low it was unbelievable, and with her Speys doing more than a bit of crop-dusting to the Suffolk air
Splendid thought to be able to see one again
best regards
Paddyboy

Memories of the 'Hall, with a 'banana bomber' coming in fast and l-o-w from the Mildenhall end, so low it was unbelievable, and with her Speys doing more than a bit of crop-dusting to the Suffolk air

Splendid thought to be able to see one again

best regards
Paddyboy

Re: Vulcan ..A very hard act to follow...BUT
Count me in on the Hawker Siddeley Bulldozer, 7 years A/Fitt/E - 237 OCU.
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I've often thought at modern airshows when the commentator says a certain fighter jet is doing a 'fast low pass' (about 250 feet up), that they clearly never saw the low passes that used to be done in the old days - particularly the Buccaneer!paddyboy wrote:Ahhhhh![]()
Memories of the 'Hall, with a 'banana bomber' coming in fast and l-o-w from the Mildenhall end, so low it was unbelievable, and with her Speys doing more than a bit of crop-dusting to the Suffolk air![]()
Splendid thought to be able to see one again![]()
best regards
Paddyboy
Re: Vulcan ..A very hard act to follow...BUT
Ah the days before the H & S police went mad. Sadly those days are long gone.The Phantom wrote:I've often thought at modern airshows when the commentator says a certain fighter jet is doing a 'fast low pass' (about 250 feet up), that they clearly never saw the low passes that used to be done in the old days - particularly the Buccaneer!paddyboy wrote:Ahhhhh![]()
Memories of the 'Hall, with a 'banana bomber' coming in fast and l-o-w from the Mildenhall end, so low it was unbelievable, and with her Speys doing more than a bit of crop-dusting to the Suffolk air![]()
Splendid thought to be able to see one again![]()
best regards
Paddyboy
Before somebody shoots me down in flames I do actually agree about making things safer for the public but sometimes it can be taken too far.
Re: Vulcan ..A very hard act to follow...BUT
How about watching two of them trying to sink the "Torrey Canyon" in March 1967?
Buccaneers, of course, not Vulcans!
I am certain that it didn't sink as a result of a concerted attack.

Buccaneers, of course, not Vulcans!
I am certain that it didn't sink as a result of a concerted attack.

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Re: Vulcan ..A very hard act to follow...BUT
Why would Hawker Hunter Aviation sell an aircraft they have maintained in an airworthy condition, just so some people can go off on jollys at airshows in it?
Re: Vulcan ..A very hard act to follow...BUT
How about the Coventry based Shackleton or East Kirkby's Lancaster as the next big success story gracing our skies though I appreciate it may be some time before either is ready to take to the skies
Re: Vulcan ..A very hard act to follow...BUT
We do not seem to get our "act" together.
A Shackleton at Newquay and one at Coventry, both work in progress, neither in a hangar. A perfect project for ?
A Shackleton at Newquay and one at Coventry, both work in progress, neither in a hangar. A perfect project for ?
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C24,
As I recall, numerous good training attacks by Buccaneers failed to shift the Torrey Canyon.
In the end our Navy friends popped one shell into her - end of !
As I recall, numerous good training attacks by Buccaneers failed to shift the Torrey Canyon.
In the end our Navy friends popped one shell into her - end of !
Re: Vulcan ..A very hard act to follow...BUT
C24
The Shackleton at St Mawgan is a very unlikely candidate to fly ever again. And SPT at Coventry have said that VttS are not taking on WR963, and they are frankly doing ok anyway so need any help from The mob at Doncaster/
Tim S
The Shackleton at St Mawgan is a very unlikely candidate to fly ever again. And SPT at Coventry have said that VttS are not taking on WR963, and they are frankly doing ok anyway so need any help from The mob at Doncaster/
Tim S
Re: Vulcan ..A very hard act to follow...BUT
I am unsure about the end of the Torrey Canyon but I am certain that the Buccaneer attempts were unsuccessful. What brought this to mind was that the Buccaneer attack was their then current nuclear approach which is the same manoeuvre recorded by Blackman when discussing Vulcan naughty aeros.
Pulling up in an incomplete loop, rolling off the top to reverse direction (avoiding blast from the bomb).
The point about the Shackletons is that we, as a Nation, have large amounts of money tied up in old buildings but do not have any coordination for preserving items that represent our real achievements.
I have been fortunate to visit four aircraft museums this year, including Coventry and it makes me sad to see the inadequate provision for the items. Please do not misunderstand me, the volunteers are doing a great job, just imagine the result if we could amalgamate their efforts with the NT and use some of the funding available there. (And all the storage space).
I will sign off and check my Lotto ticket
Good luck to all involved in preservation.
Charlie
This article illustrates my point about a lack of national coordination but regardless of that, people are successful in a limited way.
http://www.aviationmuseum.net/News.html

Pulling up in an incomplete loop, rolling off the top to reverse direction (avoiding blast from the bomb).
The point about the Shackletons is that we, as a Nation, have large amounts of money tied up in old buildings but do not have any coordination for preserving items that represent our real achievements.
I have been fortunate to visit four aircraft museums this year, including Coventry and it makes me sad to see the inadequate provision for the items. Please do not misunderstand me, the volunteers are doing a great job, just imagine the result if we could amalgamate their efforts with the NT and use some of the funding available there. (And all the storage space).


Good luck to all involved in preservation.
Charlie
This article illustrates my point about a lack of national coordination but regardless of that, people are successful in a limited way.
http://www.aviationmuseum.net/News.html

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Re: Vulcan ..A very hard act to follow...BUT
At least one 'Torrey Canyon Buccaneer' is preserved in the UK – details of a 2008 anniversary can be found in here! 
A few additional Log Book entries resulted from that appeal.

A few additional Log Book entries resulted from that appeal.

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Re: Vulcan ..A very hard act to follow...BUT
My Wife when working in Ops, at Honington, took a phone call from a farmer who complained about a low flying Bucc', he had to open the gate to the field to let it out.
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Re: Vulcan ..A very hard act to follow...BUT
Reminds me of one that appeared at Shuttleworth many years ago. Came in low and fast and was gone in an instant. "Don't worry" said Roger the commentator, "he was just having quick look at the airfield and he'll be back in a minute." Happy dayspaddyboy wrote:Ahhhhh![]()
Memories of the 'Hall, with a 'banana bomber' coming in fast and l-o-w from the Mildenhall end, so low it was unbelievable, and with her Speys doing more than a bit of crop-dusting to the Suffolk air![]()
Splendid thought to be able to see one again![]()
best regards
Paddyboy

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Re: Vulcan ..A very hard act to follow...BUT
I wonder if that 'Roger' could have been the legend of Mildenhall that was Roger Hoefling
Not only a superb commentator, able to speak to all age groups and levels of interest, but a positive mine of info for the masses assembled
Cheers
Paddyboy

Not only a superb commentator, able to speak to all age groups and levels of interest, but a positive mine of info for the masses assembled

Cheers
Paddyboy

Re: Vulcan ..A very hard act to follow...BUT
I think the main problem was it happened over a weekend so the RAF was closed til monday 1030.
Re: Vulcan ..A very hard act to follow...BUT
Which aircraft are you talking about here? (the Vulcan didn't have burners)Lowfly11 wrote:Used to love departure days at RAF Finningley..some fast jets would depart,come back round straight down the runway and pull up vertical..burners on![]()
..personally i would like to see Shackleton,Phantom and whatever else comes along in the future..back into the UK skies..barring piles of paperwork and red tape.
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I can assure you, we have our act together - and the lack of a hangar is due to the fact that there's only one place big enough at Coventry to accomodate a Shackleton, and its already occupied. So we wait our turn.C24 wrote:We do not seem to get our "act" together.
A Shackleton at Newquay and one at Coventry, both work in progress, neither in a hangar. A perfect project for ?
A perfect project for ? Those already working on it.

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