Deer

[Lossie15]

The day the 4 German Phantoms were in there were two deer running accross the runway. They rested in the grass near by but when the Transall took off, they ran away in fear.


Mark.

[HighlandSniper]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/nor ... 278965.stm

This incident involved one of the nightly Royal Mail charters (SAAB 340 G-GNTF), and not a military aircraft.

[np1991]

Putting a high fence up should do the trick,would cost a lot but how much would it cost to repair a damaged aircraft,against fencing costs.

Don't give them ideas

[Mike]

Putting a high fence up should do the trick,would cost a lot but how much would it cost to repair a damaged aircraft,against fencing costs.

Don't give them ideas

I'd agree with Niall !

[HighlandSniper]

There is a simpler, less costly and very tasty solution

[Thunder]

Putting a high fence up should do the trick,would cost a lot but how much would it cost to repair a damaged aircraft,against fencing costs.

No point, they would just access through the Main gate like everyone else

[HighlandSniper]

Marinade venison steaks briefly in olive oil, salt & pepper, pan fry until medium rare, rest for five minutes and serve with a port and redcurrant sauce, that'll solve the problem of deer on the runway

[HighlandSniper]

There has been a deer problem on the airfield at Kinloss for as long as I can remember. Part of the problem lies with the MoD Deer Management hierarchy assessing numbers as being low and thus not authorising a cull. Achieving a safe cull on an area as flat and as busy as the Kinloss base is not easy, especially considering how much deer friendly ground there is on the base, especially to the north and eastern ends of the base. The long grass on the airfield itself doesn't help. There are similar problems at Lossie, but not as bad.

Speaking as a highly experienced stalker, achieving a complete cull on the base could take some considerable time and there would be no guarantee of eliminating the problem easily as roe deer are notoriously difficult to count. Some years ago there was a deer problem on the base at Porton Down and it was assessed as containing around 25 animals within the highly secure fenced area of the base. A weekend study involving a considerable number of personnel and a Wessex helo to hover low over woodland to force deer into the open, revealed a deer population 4-5 times the original estimate of 25!

[MossetHornet]

The deer were here before the airfield. On second thoughts they might be football supporters from Dingwall (today's obscure humour attempt)

[HighlandSniper]

Are The Staggies really so lost?

Don't the pine woodlands around the base actually date from the same era as the base?

[Thunder]

I know at Lossie, the deer used to access the airfield at the low wooden fences under the approaches, especially at the 05 and 10 ends.

How do you combat the problem? I have no eye deer...............sorry

[np1991]

A couple tonkas were informed of a deer on the airfeild at Lossie "wondering" around the taxiway for a bit today, one had to stop as the jet approached the animal as it bounced out of the grass. The bird scarer seemed to be chasing it for a while anyway.

[RichC]

It's amazing how much damage a small deer can make to an aircraft.
My former bosses car got absolutely totalled by a deer. He didn't hit the deer, the deer hit him.
Came out of the woods and went straight into the side of his car whilst he was doing 50 (talk about milliseconds of convergence)...
Made such an impact it pushed his car onto the other side of the road. There was half an engine compartment left afterwards. A total write off.

Now think what damage can be done to a thin skinned aircraft fuselage or landing gear upon impact at take off or landing speed... i can see why the pilot breaked so much and crapped himself.

The only way to stop deer is to put an 8ft chain link fence up with overhang but obviously this can't be done at the threshold. I guess the bird scarer needs to spend more time at the threshold than anywhere else!

[beefsteak]

No disrespect chaps, but am I the only one to notice that this story is nearly two years old !!

[Mike]

No disrespect chaps, but am I the only one to notice that this story is nearly two years old !!

The date's wrong on the BBC report,it should say 2009 !

[beefsteak]

Oh , only a year old then!!.............

[HighlandSniper]

No disrespect chaps, but am I the only one to notice that this story is nearly two years old !!

The event happened two years ago, but the publication of the AIB's journal covering the incident was this month, hence the BBC's interest.

[Mike]

It happened on 08/10/2009 Rob.

http://www.aaib.gov.uk/sites/aaib/publi ... g_gntf.cfm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[HighlandSniper]

It happened on 08/10/2009 Rob.

http://www.aaib.gov.uk/sites/aaib/publi ... g_gntf.cfm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

OK, so I got the year wrong, but in a post elsewhere on FC or CA (can't be bothered to check which) I previously highlighted the AIB report, which as I said was what I presume triggered the BBC's article.

Get me the permission and I'll solve the deer problem - I have all the necessary equipment and experience and there's room in my freezer

[Mike]