A nice little order for BAE...................

[Mike]

Great news, 22 Hawks for the RSAF + other bits 'n bobs.

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[Dazza37]

Good news indeed.

-Daz

[steve149c]

Oh yes, a Saudi Hawk!

[hammo]

good news for BAE systems, not so good for BAE Brough, the Hawks will be built at the BAE Warton facility with Brough getting a few parts to manufacture. Looks like we`ve seen the last of maiden flights out of Brough.

[deerhunter]

Good news, will be good to see new flights out of Warton

[Mike]

It makes me wonder who is paid lots of money to write these articles.

"Advanced fighter jets being sold to the Saudis are used in the UK to train crew for Harrier, Tornado and Typhoon jets as well as the future Joint Combat Aircraft"

[deerhunter]

[quote]["Advanced fighter jets being sold to the Saudis are used in the UK to train crew for Harrier, Tornado and Typhoon jets as well as the future Joint Combat Aircraft"/quote]

On TV this afternoon whilst the newsreader was going on about the Hawk a film was being shown of the Typhoon

S`pose is was because both are made by the same company.........or in the case of the Tiffie.....partly made by BAE

[teeonefixer]

I wonder if the PC-21's will be delivered direct or via Warton to get mods (as did the PC-9's) ?
And will they keep one or two at Warton for instructor training ?

[teeonefixer]

good news for BAE systems, not so good for BAE Brough, the Hawks will be built at the BAE Warton facility with Brough getting a few parts to manufacture. Looks like we`ve seen the last of maiden flights out of Brough.

It is still a bitter pill to swallow for Brough, despite the concessions to keep a small part of the manufacturing side going.
The next 6-8 months will see some major changes round the site.

[the concerned]

Weren't the UK looking to get asecond order of hawks now would be the right time say about 20 airframes,12 for red arrows plus 8 extra traing machines. It would be a nice extra boost to economy plus we could retire the mk-1's then.

[Viper28]

I wonder if the PC-21's will be delivered direct or via Warton to get mods (as did the PC-9's) ?

That will probably depend on if they are going to be pure trainers or have some ground attack ability. If they need pylons for weapons those will have to be fitted outside Switzerland.

[teeonefixer]

I wonder if the PC-21's will be delivered direct or via Warton to get mods (as did the PC-9's) ?

That will probably depend on if they are going to be pure trainers or have some ground attack ability. If they need pylons for weapons those will have to be fitted outside Switzerland.

Not true in the case of the PC-9's...the first batch came through Brough to have certain aspects of their design (built to FAR part 23)modified to meet UK requirements (DEF-STAN 00-970), such as fastener connections in control systems and a host of minor details. It may be that the PC-21 is to more common standards (JAR?) which will be acceptable to MoDSAP. Otherwise, it's off to Switzerland to see them !

[Viper28]

I wonder if the PC-21's will be delivered direct or via Warton to get mods (as did the PC-9's) ?

That will probably depend on if they are going to be pure trainers or have some ground attack ability. If they need pylons for weapons those will have to be fitted outside Switzerland.

Not true in the case of the PC-9's...the first batch came through Brough to have certain aspects of their design (built to FAR part 23)modified to meet UK requirements (DEF-STAN 00-970), such as fastener connections in control systems and a host of minor details. It may be that the PC-21 is to more common standards (JAR?) which will be acceptable to MoDSAP. Otherwise, it's off to Switzerland to see them !

Fair comment, didn't know any of that . However my original statement was based on the fact that being a neutral country Swiss companies cannot directly export military equipment. Therefore if the customer wants to take advantage of the PC-21's provisions for wing and center hard-points they have to be installed outside of Switzerland. No idea if that's "plug and play" or wiring etc. is involved.

[T_J]

However my original statement was based on the fact that being a neutral country Swiss companies cannot directly export military equipment.

The Swiss export millions of arms and munitions every year. There are strict guidelines but when these are met the arms flow.

Switzerland exported some SFr872.7 million in war materiel in 2011, a 36 per cent increase over 2010

http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/politics/Wa ... d=32277794" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.eda.admin.ch/eda/en/home/top ... xpwea.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Exporting military supplies such as arms, munitions and military equipment from Switzerland requires the approval of the State Secretariat for Economic Affairs (seco). The Federal Department of Foreign Affairs (FDFA) considers every application on its merits, ensuring that Switzerland meets its international obligations and that international law and the principles of Swiss foreign policy are respected. The following factors are taken into account:

the preservation of peace
international security
regional stability
respect for human rights
Swiss development cooperation
the attitudes of other countries.
In 2005 Switzerland exported military supplies to the value of CHF 259 million

[Squire of the Gate]

Good news indeed.