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Red Arrow down Bournemouth 2011

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Re: Red Arrow down Bournemouth 2011

Post by kurt.fairhurst » Tue Aug 23, 2011 12:01 pm

Just my little tribute to red 4 RIP http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoHiays5 ... ideo_title" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Red Arrow down Bournemouth 2011

Post by TankBuster » Tue Aug 23, 2011 12:24 pm

kurt.fairhurst wrote:Just my little tribute to red 4 RIP http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoHiays5 ... ideo_title" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Very moving to watch and nicely put together, thanks for the link.

I'm sure that Jon's spirit will forever fly with the Reds. R.I.P Red 4 :( .

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Re: Red Arrow down Bournemouth 2011

Post by kurt.fairhurst » Tue Aug 23, 2011 12:47 pm

No problem and thank you.

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Re: Red Arrow down Bournemouth 2011

Post by richkc135 » Tue Aug 23, 2011 2:12 pm

Next year,the whole World should see a "missing" man formation during the Olympics,assuming that the Reds are invited.Then all could see what the British spirit is all about. Just a suggestion to the people who decide such things.

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Re: Red Arrow down Bournemouth 2011

Post by KINROTATE » Tue Aug 23, 2011 2:19 pm

richkc135 wrote:Next year,the whole World should see a "missing" man formation during the Olympics,assuming that the Reds are invited.Then all could see what the British spirit is all about. Just a suggestion to the people who decide such things.
Nice sentiment, but not really what the Olympics is all about.

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Re: Red Arrow down Bournemouth 2011

Post by richkc135 » Tue Aug 23, 2011 2:28 pm

Firstly,the Olympics is a World celebration and the Reds have been seen all over the World by thousands of people,
Secondly,the skill and professionalism of the Reds has kept the "Great" in Britain for years.
Thirdly,the Olympics is an opportunity for the host to show off all of that countries best qualities

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Re: Red Arrow down Bournemouth 2011

Post by razor23uk » Tue Aug 23, 2011 6:44 pm

I was in my own little world at a festival all weekend and had no media of any sort to watch or listen to.
A shocking,sad sad day for me on Monday. Those guys give me and the Mrs so much fun watching them fly with such skill and dedication,and hearing them on the scanner of course. It just hits home how dangerous the job is up there....and for what?
........for us down here to enjoy....thats all.....they do it for me and you.
Thoughts are with family and friends and fellow Reds/Blues.
R.I.P Red 4.........R.I.P :(
Living in the far west of Wales, where no military aircraft play

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Re: Red Arrow down Bournemouth 2011

Post by KINROTATE » Tue Aug 23, 2011 7:18 pm

richkc135 wrote:Firstly,the Olympics is a World celebration and the Reds have been seen all over the World by thousands of people,
Secondly,the skill and professionalism of the Reds has kept the "Great" in Britain for years.
Thirdly,the Olympics is an opportunity for the host to show off all of that countries best qualities
Sorry dude I don't get your point. Is it that because there was a single tragic accident we need to celebrate it by letting the world know a year after the fact - with a missing man formation? Really? Lots of emotion around right now, but lets look forward, not linger in the past. If indeed the organiser's do decide on having the 'Reds' at the games, they will obviously be there as a tribute to the nation as a whole and a good job they will do as ever.

Lets just look down the road a bit shall we. Somebody has to climb into the '4' jet someday, not a particularly comfy seat to fill I would imagine for the incumbant? Perhaps that seat will be taken by a current member who knows. 12 months on in 2012 let the past be the past. There is nothing wrong with looking back on happy memories, but the focus has to be the now and the future. It goes without saying that the memory of John Egging will live on, just as the chap who died of cancer and the one killed in a training accident and the others before them. Blues skies eh? :)

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Re: Red Arrow down Bournemouth 2011

Post by Vandal » Tue Aug 23, 2011 9:25 pm

KINROTATE wrote:
richkc135 wrote:Firstly,the Olympics is a World celebration and the Reds have been seen all over the World by thousands of people,
Secondly,the skill and professionalism of the Reds has kept the "Great" in Britain for years.
Thirdly,the Olympics is an opportunity for the host to show off all of that countries best qualities
Sorry dude I don't get your point. Is it that because there was a single tragic accident we need to celebrate it by letting the world know a year after the fact - with a missing man formation? Really? Lots of emotion around right now, but lets look forward, not linger in the past. If indeed the organiser's do decide on having the 'Reds' at the games, they will obviously be there as a tribute to the nation as a whole and a good job they will do as ever.

Lets just look down the road a bit shall we. Somebody has to climb into the '4' jet someday, not a particularly comfy seat to fill I would imagine for the incumbant? Perhaps that seat will be taken by a current member who knows. 12 months on in 2012 let the past be the past. There is nothing wrong with looking back on happy memories, but the focus has to be the now and the future. It goes without saying that the memory of John Egging will live on, just as the chap who died of cancer and the one killed in a training accident and the others before them. Blues skies eh? :)
For the poor pilot that lost his life to cancer a couple of years ago, I'm sure the Red Arrows paid tribute to him by having one aircraft use coloured smoke when the others were white or vice versa (can't remember which though :blush: ). Maybe they will do something similar on the display circuit next year?

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Re: Red Arrow down Bournemouth 2011

Post by wave scanner » Tue Aug 23, 2011 10:06 pm

was at Bournemouth air festival Fri, Sat & Sun. There was a very sombre mood there on Sunday when the 1 minute silence was observed.
:( Nice to see lots of people wearing red shirts / tops etc.. Would be a real tribute if it was advertised that for next years event everyone wears an item of red clothing :thumb:
Kind regards. Stu. H

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Re: Red Arrow down Bournemouth 2011

Post by SteveS » Tue Aug 23, 2011 10:22 pm

It would make more sense to incorporate the missing man formation into next years display, rather than the Olympics.

Anyway, let's try and keep this thread just for tributes please.

Steve

edit - Eagle Patrol 22 beat me to it

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Re: Red Arrow down Bournemouth 2011

Post by Macc » Tue Aug 23, 2011 10:26 pm

I think they should perform the missing man formation through the heart. I think that would be quite fitting. Totally agree about a missing man formation being a fitting tribute.

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Re: Red Arrow down Bournemouth 2011

Post by seven » Wed Aug 24, 2011 12:55 pm

Hawks922 wrote:It is my deepest hope that there is some decent News coverage of Jons funeral and the RED's get to perform the missing man display a fitting tribute to a young man who entertained us and made us feel proud to be British. As for Olympics I did hear some time ago that the RED's will not be invited, because they were said to be too British, has the decision been changed?
There was alot of speclation that the Reds had been snubbed fro the Olympics, even so far as to a petition was sent to parliament. The Reds later released a statement saying 'we dont decide where we are going to appear until the start of the working year! So you can see how rumours can circulate beyond control.

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Re: Red Arrow down Bournemouth 2011

Post by Gary » Wed Aug 24, 2011 1:41 pm

Following the tragic crash on Saturday and due to the ongoing Service Inquiry the Red Arrows have had to the cancel some upcoming displays. The following displays have been cancelled to date:

24 Aug 11 - Torbay Royal Regatta, Devon

25 Aug 11 - Clacton Airshow, Essex

26 Aug 11 - Clacton Airshow, Essex

26 Aug 11 - Port of Dartmouth Royal Regatta, Dartmouth, Devon

27 Aug 11 - Plymouth Airshow and Festival, Plymouth Hoe, Devon

28 Aug 11 - Wings and Wheels, Dunsfold, Surrey

28 Aug 11 - The Eye Show, Suffolk

29 Aug 11 - 40th Uffington White Horse Show, Oxfordshire

29 Aug 11 - RNLI Holylake & West Kirkby Lifeboats Open Day, Merseyside

Further information regarding future displays will be provided as soon as possible.
Info from Red Arrows website

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Re: Red Arrow down Bournemouth 2011

Post by scanman » Wed Aug 24, 2011 2:21 pm

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Re: Red Arrow down Bournemouth 2011

Post by kstater94 » Wed Aug 24, 2011 2:23 pm

The cancellations are completely understandable due to the circumstances

As an outside observer (and a huge fan of the team), 3 things stand out in my mind that lead to the team potentially cancelling the rest of the season.

1) Noone knows how soon the jets will be released back into service. Obviously, this could be as soon as early next week or stretch out into the first part of September (depending on the preliminary findings of the accident review board).

2) The team will have to shake the rust off (so to speak) from not practicing (I think I read somewhere that they demand of themselves that they have to practice something like every 3 days minimum if not performing at a show). I realize that this isn't a daunting task as the team has practiced a great many hours prior to the events of last Saturday.

3) based on the press release cancelling the rest of August, the remainder of the season is... September... If the grounding goes too far into the month, the workup time may take too long to see them ready to display in public in time.

I certainly am not trying to be a doom and gloom guy. I was just thinking through everything that's going on and the times it has taken them to be ready to go following less tragic accidents.

Regardless, the team will move past this. They have had a very successful time in the Hawk and I feel that will continue. They have lost members prior to the transitioning to the Hawk and were able to move ahead.

This too shall pass

Cheers!

John

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Re: Red Arrow down Bournemouth 2011

Post by scanman » Wed Aug 24, 2011 2:30 pm

They have also lost members since operating the Hawk as well (all be it via a non aircraft related matter) .

Just thought I would add that.
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Re: Red Arrow down Bournemouth 2011

Post by kstater94 » Wed Aug 24, 2011 2:41 pm

scanman wrote:Kurt they have also lost members since operating the Hawk as well (all be it via a non aircraft related matter) .

Just thought I would add that.
I was speaking flying accident wise

I think that is a testament to the skills of the pilots and the maintenance folks

Cheers!

John

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Re: Red Arrow down Bournemouth 2011

Post by RichC » Wed Aug 24, 2011 5:13 pm

On another note...
Dartmouth Regatta which was due to have the Reds at 18:00 to close the event each day is conducting a minute silence at 18:00 and on Friday for everyone (after a facebook appeal) to wear RED when visiting the town. Thousands of people are attending wearing red in honour of Red 4.

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Re: Red Arrow down Bournemouth 2011

Post by steve149c » Wed Aug 24, 2011 6:26 pm

Next year,the whole World should see a "missing" man formation during the Olympics,assuming that the Reds are invited.Then all could see what the British spirit is all about. Just a suggestion to the people who decide such things.
Not wanting to hijack the thread, but we should also be honouring those who have made the ultimate sacrifice in the middle east this year too! I am worried that the phrase "out of sight and out of mind" is starting to come to the fore.

I completely agree that Jon Eggings death is a shock and very saddening, but please let's not forget about our brave ladies and gents who are suffering the same fate!

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