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urkles
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by urkles » Sat Mar 19, 2011 10:39 pm
markmarples wrote:guys i am sorry i mentioned it, but if the news agencies were asked not to divulge weapons, why have they posted videos and piccys of them
is it me or have i missed somthing cos you can see excatly what they are!
again im sorry i asked in the first place having been in the Poo in the back of a heli in bosnia i should know better, sorry
i wouldnt worry to much Mark, the public always know more than what the protaganists know

And I speak from the same sort of experience!
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garyscott
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by garyscott » Sat Mar 19, 2011 10:40 pm
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Mark Owen
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by Mark Owen » Sat Mar 19, 2011 10:41 pm
lammo wrote:Been out at work all day so missed the action.Trying to get through the threads, watch the News, and listen to Liveatc Malta.Can someone confirm 4 MarhamTornados and 4 F15s from LK left this evening. CanForce f18s gone via Prestwick today. Have the Connie Typhoons gone.If so, when and how many?
Hi mate.
No typhoons have left Coningsby yet hope that helps.
Regards.
Mark.
Mark Owen.
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by tomcat79uk » Sat Mar 19, 2011 10:42 pm
Sorry to say lads but I think this is just the tip of the iceberg going into Libya these other countries in the middle east mainly Saudi Arabia that are allies to America there will be countries watching every move closely.
We all know what is happening in Bahrain and there will be countries that will be demanding the same action be taken to help the civilian people from these countries as they are doing with Libya.
It was reported that Saudi Arabia sent armed forces into Bahrain to help the King fight back the rebels and there was other countries involved also and reports of military using force on civilians.
This is no different to what is happening in Libya but do you really think the west is going to get involved with Saudi Arabia....No chance but it is what the other middle eastern countries make of it.
I really hope this is over quickly but I have a feeling this is going to go on for a long time and slowly but surely be dragged right into the middle east.
After saying all that I hope all our servicemen and women return safely and that all other countries with servicemen and women over there return safely.
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markmarples
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by markmarples » Sat Mar 19, 2011 10:44 pm
urkles wrote:markmarples wrote:guys i am sorry i mentioned it, but if the news agencies were asked not to divulge weapons, why have they posted videos and piccys of them
is it me or have i missed somthing cos you can see excatly what they are!
again im sorry i asked in the first place having been in the Poo in the back of a heli in bosnia i should know better, sorry
i wouldnt worry to much Mark, the public always know more than what the protaganists know

And I speak from the same sort of experience!
thanks mate
it does make me laugh, we dont report weapons but they are on tv, tv doesnt report movements for an hour but we do! seems a bit well mad to me
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Reptile 1
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by Reptile 1 » Sat Mar 19, 2011 10:45 pm
markmarples wrote:guys i am sorry i mentioned it, but if the news agencies were asked not to divulge weapons, why have they posted videos and piccys of them
is it me or have i missed somthing cos you can see excatly what they are!
again im sorry i asked in the first place having been in the Poo in the back of a heli in bosnia i should know better, sorry
Mark i may be wrong but didnt the first wave of GR4's leave at night? not daylight that the news were using? Not seen the latest one so dont know what there using now.
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markmarples
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by markmarples » Sat Mar 19, 2011 10:46 pm
there is night footage form marham on both sky and bbc and now cnn!
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Rory
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by Rory » Sat Mar 19, 2011 10:52 pm
i saw the news footage of the gr's taking off. couldnt quite make out what weapons they were carrying though..
also thought i saw an ECR on the news earlier with HARM. i may be wrong??
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Thunder
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by Thunder » Sat Mar 19, 2011 11:04 pm
Having read through the posts on here some people need to get a grip on what info they are providing or indeed asking for. Yes we all would love to know just what exactly is going on, how many of this and what type of that has been deployed if any, but this is SENSITIVE information and some of you are ex service personnel that should know better.
Think before you post
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GOOSE
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by GOOSE » Sat Mar 19, 2011 11:11 pm
Regarding what to and what not to post -
We are not the only forum who are reporting information. Then there are all the twitter and email groups too plus BBC and Sky.
We can't prevent lists of aircraft and where they are going from and to appearing as the above groups will continue, but as a token gesture we can limit weapons and load out info.
It's a small token gesture but one I think we ought to pursue?
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Mark Owen
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by Mark Owen » Sat Mar 19, 2011 11:13 pm
lammo wrote:Mark O, Thanks for the update.Are any due to leave Connie, and if so, any ideas when?The news have broadcast that British Forces have been in action over Libya tonight. So it's the Awacs etc etc only?
Hi Mate.
I do believe Typhoons will be leaving Coningsby some time soon but how soon I dont know and would say it was E3Ds that where over Libya to night.
Regards.
Mark.
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garyscott
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by garyscott » Sat Mar 19, 2011 11:14 pm
GOOSE wrote:Regarding what to and what not to post -
We are not the only forum who are reporting information. Then there are all the twitter and email groups too plus BBC and Sky.
We can't prevent lists of aircraft and where they are going from and to appearing as the above groups will continue, but as a token gesture we can limit weapons and load out info.
It's a small token gesture but one I think we ought to pursue?
Agreed.

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robdigphot
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by robdigphot » Sat Mar 19, 2011 11:57 pm
I do have photographs of the launch tonight from RAF Marham. There is a D Notice advisory put out by the MOD which expires at midnight so I will wait until the morning to post pictures.
Cheers Rob
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MacksAviation
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by MacksAviation » Sun Mar 20, 2011 12:13 am
SKY news has just reported live from outside Marham claiming 3 jets left earlier and they say more activity is being heard right now.
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davedubya
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by davedubya » Sun Mar 20, 2011 12:39 am
What's the cumulative force that's taken off from the UK today then?
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Rory
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by Rory » Sun Mar 20, 2011 1:10 am
sky news confrimed GR4's launched Storm Shadow. aircraft must be on their way back home now
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headset 57
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by headset 57 » Sun Mar 20, 2011 1:13 am
AdriaN 88 wrote:what are the raf using for bombings? tiffs or tonkas?
tiffs don't drop bombs
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Rory
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by Rory » Sun Mar 20, 2011 1:14 am
AdriaN 88 wrote:what are the raf using for bombings? tiffs or tonkas?
tonkas. flying from Marham and back.. interestingly the longest mission since the Falklands
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by T_J » Sun Mar 20, 2011 1:16 am
An MoD press statement clarifies the position.
MOD PRESS STATEMENT
The Chief of Defence Staff’s Strategic Communications Officer Major General John Lorimer said:
“British Armed Forces, as authorised by the UN Security Council Resolution 1973, have participated in a co-ordinated strike against Libyan Air Defence systems. In addition to the Tomahawk Land Attack Missiles (TLAM) launched from a Trafalgar Class submarine, I can now confirm that the RAF has also launched Stormshadow missiles from a number of Tornado GR4 fast jets, which flew direct from RAF Marham as part of a coordinated coalition plan to enforce the resolution.”
Defence Secretary Dr Liam Fox said:
“We made clear that if Gaddafi did not comply with the UN Security Council Resolution 1973, it would be enforced through military action. Our Armed Forces have therefore participated in a co-ordinated international coalition strike against key military installations.
“We have launched Tomahawk Land Attack Missiles from a Trafalgar Class submarine and Stormshadow missiles from Tornado GR4s. The fast jets flew 3,000 miles from RAF Marham and back making this the longest range bombing mission conducted by the RAF since the Falklands conflict. This operation was supported by VC10 and Tristar air-to-air refuelling aircraft as well as E3D Sentry and Sentinel surveillance aircraft.
“HMS Westminster is off the coast of Libya and HMS Cumberland is in the region ready to support operations. Typhoon aircraft are also standing by to provide support.
“Our capable and adaptable Armed Forces are once again displaying their courage and professionalism. This action has provided a strong signal - the International community will not stand by while the Libyan people suffer under the Gaddafi regime.”
TJ