14 Squadron Crusaders

[Ravendriver2008]

Words fail me, as complainant within the squadron or RAF says the nickname Crusaders is offensive to Muslims and names been ditched.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... 0grievance.

[KevinJ]

As it's in the Daily Fail I won't take it seriously

[FlyingFairy]

A thread on PPrune has been running for a few days, probably where the Mail picked it up from?

https://www.pprune.org/military-aviatio ... -ersi.html

[adderman]

As expected in this PC era.
'The needs of the one outway the needs of the many!'

[reheat module]

As an ex Brüggenite, from the mighty 17(F), just across the runway from 14, I fear we may be next...

[Blackcat1]

Touchy bstrds

[Amp]

Makes me wonder why on earth the complainant joined the military? How have we evolved to the position that the alleged feelings of one person carry such weight?

[Supra]

Pathetic! The start of another rash of adaptions to suit an overly sensitive minority. I'm certainly against all changes introduced NOW to re-write history!

[B58Hustler]

So what would happen if the F-8 was still in service? New name?
And what is Superman now? The caped............ madness!

[paddyboy]

Yet more Woke cr@ppery

[slogen51]

It is incredible - they should have stayed firm and refused

Hope we now don't have to rebrand the England flag used by Richard the Lionheart during the crusades - while we are at it we could introduce a few more colours from the rainbow .

[C24]

Aah! A thread for grumpy on Monday morning. The Lettuce, Bacon & Tomato Sandwich brigade

Also, good to see the emojis are back but not on the forum
Have a good week

[Finty]

Quite concerning that this bedwetter has been allowed to join the air force in the first place, if they’re getting upset over an old name then how are they going to cope with annihilating people?

[jpickers56]

There is a professional football team in N Ireland named Crusaders , based in north Belfast, guess they will have to rename themselves should a single person be offended .

[effects]

As a Veteran with over 30 years service, I find this whole business a disgrace. The fact that a serving ( allegedly Aircrew) person made this complaint makes it all the more ridiculous. He should be reprimanded not patted on the back. A Squadron's whole identity is built up over decades and should not be censored in any way.
I imagine the next beercall will be fun.

[Alf]

There is a professional football team in N Ireland named Crusaders , based in north Belfast, guess they will have to rename themselves should a single person be offended .

There are rugby teams, cricket teams and football teams in USA, Austrailia and New Zealand that have removed crusader from either their name or logo already.. so it's not a one off.

[iainpeden]

Will the Test Match grounds ban the fancy dress groups who go as Crusaders?

[KevinJ]

VMFA-122 were ordered to ditch their nickname "Crusaders" and revert to the "Werewolves" and then changed back to their original "Flying Leathernecks" so it's not unique to 14Sqn. It's just a name, if it causes upset then change it, times change.

[slogen51]

This has the potential to be a very emotive subject so be sensitive to everyone's opinions and be sensible - in other words no bun fights please

[Amp]

The Daily Express logo must be getting a bit concerned too.