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General Election Thursday 4th July 2024

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Re: General Election Thursday 4th July 2024

Post by Sparts99 » Wed Jul 03, 2024 11:56 am

Condor68 wrote:
Wed Jul 03, 2024 10:00 am
Thought it was amazing that after a visit to Glasgow Stammer said he was unaware that all the windmills in Scotland and nearly all the associated infrastructure were made or controlled overseas.We have a large field being built offshore here and all the field to shore work has been down by Norwegians (going by the flags on the ships)I googled the Floating crane that was used to erect the towers and it was Dutch.Towers came from China or Far East apparently.Thats a lot of money flowing out of the country to be unaware off,and that is only one part of a massive project.Its been paused now as they cant get a boat to take the towers to the field. Suppose thats Labour for you.

Regarding the earlier comment about John Smith,he very nearly got me to vote Labour and I knew a lot of people who thought the same.
Lack of investement in the UK. This is exactly what we're missing as a country. Fossil fuels have a finite life, we should've been investing in renewable energy and the inmdustry around it but the oil lobby are hampering it, we were world leaders in solar panels, no government support so germany then China took the lead. I'm not a Starmer supporter but to be fair I doubt any MP except for the local one and the energy secretary would know that kind of thing to that level of detail.

Free electricity anyone?
https://www.thelocal.no/20230904/why-os ... -on-monday

If we are to go ahead with hydrogen powered vehicles we'll need to generate more electricity to seperate the hydrogen and oxygen in sea water, its doable if anyone has the will.

Tories pushing nuclear energy. In October 2013, the government announced that it had agreed a contract for difference for the electricity production of Hinkley Point C with a strike price of £89.50 per MWh, with the plant expected to be completed in 2023 and remain operational for 60 years. Construction is not now expected to be complete until at least 2029, and costs have more than doubled. In 2013 we could've bought electricity from France for £37.94/MWh.

"As of May 2022, the project was two years late and the expected cost stood at £25–26 billion, 50% more than the original budget from 2016. In February 2023, EDF announced that costs would rise to £32.7bn in 2023 prices and operation would be delayed by a further 15 months to September 2028. In January 2024, EDF announced that it estimated that the final cost could rise up to £46 billion in 2024 prices and be delayed by up to three years to 2029-2031.
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Re: General Election Thursday 4th July 2024

Post by Gary » Wed Jul 03, 2024 7:26 pm

If you can believe it YouGov's last exit poll has Labour with a majority of 212. Bigger than Blairs win in 1997 and the biggest Labour win since 1832.

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Re: General Election Thursday 4th July 2024

Post by baz1 » Wed Jul 03, 2024 9:04 pm

omg there is one thing for sure they want be doing anything in a hurry as summer recess looms i assume it will be August/ September then things will really hit home :grr:
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Re: General Election Thursday 4th July 2024

Post by slogen51 » Thu Jul 04, 2024 5:03 am

Gary wrote:
Wed Jul 03, 2024 7:26 pm
If you can believe it YouGov's last exit poll has Labour with a majority of 212. Bigger than Blairs win in 1997 and the biggest Labour win since 1832.
Exit poll - the polling stations don't open until 7am ?

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Re: General Election Thursday 4th July 2024

Post by slogen51 » Thu Jul 04, 2024 5:17 am

Get your tax affairs in order - if you were going to leave anything to the kids it might be worth gifting it sooner rather than later as a new government are bound to tinker with inheritance tax allowances

The FT100 seems fairly boyuant these days and presumably have built in a large labour majority

Polls open at 7am here - I assume that's the same everywhere - in west Norfolk i really only have two choices: vote for Liz Truss or don't vote at all.

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Re: General Election Thursday 4th July 2024

Post by James Cutting » Thu Jul 04, 2024 6:06 am

But you can't even do that early, as you have to live for 7(?) Years after a gift to avoid tax so it's not just as simple as that.

Looks likely Labour will win your constituency anyway.
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Re: General Election Thursday 4th July 2024

Post by C24 » Thu Jul 04, 2024 6:22 am

Gary wrote:
Wed Jul 03, 2024 7:26 pm
If you can believe it YouGov's last exit poll has Labour with a majority of 212. Bigger than Blairs win in 1997 and the biggest Labour win since 1832.
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Re: General Election Thursday 4th July 2024

Post by slogen51 » Thu Jul 04, 2024 6:37 am

I think the above means the largest majority of any party not just labour, since 1832

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Re: General Election Thursday 4th July 2024

Post by slogen51 » Thu Jul 04, 2024 6:40 am

James Cutting wrote:
Thu Jul 04, 2024 6:06 am
But you can't even do that early, as you have to live for 7(?) Years after a gift to avoid tax so it's not just as simple as that.

Looks likely Labour will win your constituency anyway.
I am saying Labour might change those rules so if you prefer the existing system then get in early but it's entirely up to the individual

Heard somewhere they are thinking of removing the AIM share market incentives for inheritance tax purposes

( Just cast my vote - had to get in early in case I have to shoot off to Northolt!)

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Re: General Election Thursday 4th July 2024

Post by James Cutting » Thu Jul 04, 2024 6:57 am

Biggest arty win of any party since 1832 - https://news.sky.com/story/general-elec ... s-13162987

All we can really hope for, more than anything, is that Reform do not get too many seats.
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Re: General Election Thursday 4th July 2024

Post by cat1 » Thu Jul 04, 2024 7:16 am

Just offering up a quiet prayer for the mods tonight :halo:

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Re: General Election Thursday 4th July 2024

Post by Gary » Thu Jul 04, 2024 7:18 am

Wrong wording by me

Some big Tory names expected to lose their seats. Rees-Mog, IDS, Chaps, Hunt, Mordent

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Re: General Election Thursday 4th July 2024

Post by STN RAMP RAT » Thu Jul 04, 2024 7:20 am

cat1 wrote:
Thu Jul 04, 2024 7:16 am
Just offering up a quiet prayer for the mods tonight :halo:
That made me laugh 😆

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Re: General Election Thursday 4th July 2024

Post by James Cutting » Thu Jul 04, 2024 7:39 am

Gary wrote:
Thu Jul 04, 2024 7:18 am
Some big Tory names expected to lose their seats. Rees-Mog, IDS, Chaps, Hunt, Mordent
Great news! :clap: :clap:
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Re: General Election Thursday 4th July 2024

Post by raptor9 » Thu Jul 04, 2024 7:49 am

I always think one should vote for the Party rather than the personality, Slogen. Not looking forward to the FTSE dropping rapidly in the near future!!.

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Re: General Election Thursday 4th July 2024

Post by Gary » Thu Jul 04, 2024 8:09 am

cat1 wrote:
Thu Jul 04, 2024 7:16 am
Just offering up a quiet prayer for the mods tonight :halo:
:lol:

I'm hopefully going to Coningsby to watch night flying. :lol:

Having Angela Rayner anywhere near a position of power is a scary thought. Something off about her

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Re: General Election Thursday 4th July 2024

Post by baz1 » Thu Jul 04, 2024 8:53 am

yes Gary and along with her wing man i'm pretty good at reading peoples faces and that man is sheepish and does not answer a straight question and looks like the man behind the mask
some people are in for a Big shock i'm afraid, and i hope in future they voice there dismay here on FC
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Re: General Election Thursday 4th July 2024

Post by Sparts99 » Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:34 am

slogen51 wrote:
Thu Jul 04, 2024 5:17 am
.........- in west Norfolk i really only have two choices: vote for Liz Truss or don't vote at all.
There's a fund called 'Short Money'. Its tax payers money that is distributed to political parties after an election based given them meeting certain criteria whioch includes total votes across the UK, so even if you are in a safe seat voting for a party you support that cannot win will still help them.
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Re: General Election Thursday 4th July 2024

Post by Yammer » Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:37 am

baz1 wrote:
Thu Jul 04, 2024 8:53 am
yes Gary and along with her wing man i'm pretty good at reading peoples faces and that man is sheepish and does not answer a straight question and looks like the man behind the mask
some people are in for a Big shock i'm afraid, and i hope in future they voice there dismay here on FC

It can't be any worse than the last 14 years of turmoil and self service.


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Re: General Election Thursday 4th July 2024

Post by Gary » Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:47 am

You have been awake for the last 14 years Baz? It's not all been rosey has it. You go on about the the horror yet to come yet forget the Tories. Inflicted Liz Truss on us, who with Kwarteng nearly brought the country to its knees in 44 days. Multiple scandals, cash for access, party gate etc. Butchering many departments but calling it austerity. The on going strike action with the doctors, train drivers etc

No party is perfect. It's definitely time for a change. Just no party is worth voting for. I walked into the booth still not knowing where my mark was going.

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