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B21 Raider takes to the skies

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Re: B21 Raider takes to the skies

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Re: B21 Raider takes to the skies

Post by NorvilleRogers » Fri Nov 10, 2023 4:00 pm

Assume it went to Edwards as I think that was the plan for its first short flight?

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Re: B21 Raider takes to the skies

Post by EAGLE » Fri Nov 10, 2023 8:38 pm

NorvilleRogers wrote:
Fri Nov 10, 2023 4:00 pm
Assume it went to Edwards as I think that was the plan for its first short flight?
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Re: B21 Raider takes to the skies

Post by Skymaster » Sat Nov 11, 2023 1:27 pm

I notice that the Edwards test tanker NKC-135R 61-0320 was also airborne, so I suspect that some a/a refuelling tests were being carried out.
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Re: B21 Raider takes to the skies

Post by Alf » Sat Nov 11, 2023 6:20 pm

Skymaster wrote:
Sat Nov 11, 2023 1:27 pm
I notice that the Edwards test tanker NKC-135R 61-0320 was also airborne, so I suspect that some a/a refuelling tests were being carried out.
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Not with the B-21 though. Very unlikely they would do anything like that on a very first flight.

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Re: B21 Raider takes to the skies

Post by luxto » Sat Nov 11, 2023 9:21 pm

Alf wrote:
Sat Nov 11, 2023 6:20 pm
Skymaster wrote:
Sat Nov 11, 2023 1:27 pm
I notice that the Edwards test tanker NKC-135R 61-0320 was also airborne, so I suspect that some a/a refuelling tests were being carried out.
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Not with the B-21 though. Very unlikely they would do anything like that on a very first flight.
May have launched the tanker as a precaution. If the B-21 developed problems, which meant it had to stay airborne longer than planned, having a tanker available for an emergency might prove to be a wise decision.

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Re: B21 Raider takes to the skies

Post by quid21 » Sun Nov 12, 2023 5:16 pm

There's a video circulating online showing it's first take-off:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAWr6BC_A4w

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Re: B21 Raider takes to the skies

Post by JAWS » Sun Nov 12, 2023 5:29 pm

quid21 wrote:
Sun Nov 12, 2023 5:16 pm
There's a video circulating online showing it's first take-off:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAWr6BC_A4w
Is it me or is there a wire coming from trailing edge with something on the end of it ?

Some kind of testing equipment presumably ?
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Re: B21 Raider takes to the skies

Post by POL » Sun Nov 12, 2023 6:10 pm

It's an air data trailing cone, all new aircraft have them on their first flight(s).

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Re: B21 Raider takes to the skies

Post by JAWS » Sun Nov 12, 2023 6:19 pm

POL wrote:
Sun Nov 12, 2023 6:10 pm
It's an air data trailing cone, all new aircraft have them on their first flight(s).
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Re: B21 Raider takes to the skies

Post by skippyscage » Sun Nov 12, 2023 6:21 pm

JAWS wrote:
Sun Nov 12, 2023 5:29 pm
quid21 wrote:
Sun Nov 12, 2023 5:16 pm
There's a video circulating online showing it's first take-off:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAWr6BC_A4w
Is it me or is there a wire coming from trailing edge with something on the end of it ?

Some kind of testing equipment presumably ?
measures the static pressure for testing the instruments - just like the probe on the front

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Re: B21 Raider takes to the skies

Post by wolfie138 » Wed Nov 15, 2023 3:09 pm

why do they leave the gear down? i thought you pretty much retracted it as soon as the ground left you?

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Re: B21 Raider takes to the skies

Post by POL » Wed Nov 15, 2023 3:18 pm

wolfie138 wrote:
Wed Nov 15, 2023 3:09 pm
why do they leave the gear down? i thought you pretty much retracted it as soon as the ground left you?
First flight, untested in the air, what if it doesn't come back down?

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Re: B21 Raider takes to the skies

Post by Thunder » Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:14 pm

I was under the impression that it’s more a case of one less thing to worry about in the event of an emergency, surely the undercarriage would’ve been tested rigorously on the ground rigs?

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Re: B21 Raider takes to the skies

Post by Alf » Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:31 pm

Any further ideas on the serial, Scramble have speculated on 15-0001 or 16-0001. It has 0001 on the nose wheel doors.

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Re: B21 Raider takes to the skies

Post by raptor9 » Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:59 pm

Thunder. You are right. One less thing to worry about. Although no doubt tested on the rigs, There are no air loads on it until it's in the air, and also, in the air, the Hydraulics are no doubt engine driven pumps, which cannot be tested on the ground. Just my semi-educated guess.

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