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USAF is "planning" to reactivate 20-25 Cold War era airbases in Europe (Rumour)

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Re: USAF is "planning" to reactivate 20-25 Cold War era airbases in Europe (Rumour)

Post by thevulcan » Tue Oct 10, 2023 9:44 am

Honington, Wattisham, Boscombe down, Leeming, Leuchars, Linton? all options for ACE.
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Re: USAF is "planning" to reactivate 20-25 Cold War era airbases in Europe (Rumour)

Post by Sparts99 » Tue Oct 10, 2023 10:19 am

I wonder how much of the militray infrastructure is left at Weeze, former RAF Laarbruch?
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Re: USAF is "planning" to reactivate 20-25 Cold War era airbases in Europe (Rumour)

Post by The Star of Woo » Tue Oct 10, 2023 10:49 am

Upper Heyford, Bentwaters, Sculthorpe - all stuff that dreams are made of.

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Post by andrewn » Tue Oct 10, 2023 12:21 pm

The Star of Woo wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2023 10:49 am
Upper Heyford, Bentwaters, Sculthorpe - all stuff that dreams are made of.
Indeed, Upper Heyford is gradually disappearing, the former domestic site is now largely demolished and there's new housing estates going up in their place. It's gone way past the point of return, in terms of it being an active airbase ever again.

Bentwaters is privately owned these days, the site externally at least is relatively complete, but it would take a massive, government led, intervention to get it turned back over for military use in any form. Again, it's not going to happen, in my opinion.

Sculthorpe !? When I last visited 15 or so years ago the place looked dilapidated, with most of the former base housing and facilities sold off and repurposed. Let's be honest it never had the best infrastructure to start with.

Sadly, it's hard to think of any former USAFE bases in the UK that are candidates for even a limited re-opening. I'd agree with posts above that the likes of Boscombe, Yeovilton, Leeming, Leuchars are much more realistic prospects for use as NATO forward operating bases, and with a few (tens of) millions thrown at them could probably be bought up to a decent enough spec for dispersal type operations by USAF aircraft.

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Re: USAF is "planning" to reactivate 20-25 Cold War era airbases in Europe (Rumour)

Post by somerset » Tue Oct 10, 2023 1:30 pm

andrewn wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2023 12:21 pm
The Star of Woo wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2023 10:49 am
Upper Heyford, Bentwaters, Sculthorpe - all stuff that dreams are made of.
Indeed, Upper Heyford is gradually disappearing, the former domestic site is now largely demolished and there's new housing estates going up in their place. It's gone way past the point of return, in terms of it being an active airbase ever again.

Bentwaters is privately owned these days, the site externally at least is relatively complete, but it would take a massive, government led, intervention to get it turned back over for military use in any form. Again, it's not going to happen, in my opinion.

Sculthorpe !? When I last visited 15 or so years ago the place looked dilapidated, with most of the former base housing and facilities sold off and repurposed. Let's be honest it never had the best infrastructure to start with.

Sadly, it's hard to think of any former USAFE bases in the UK that are candidates for even a limited re-opening. I'd agree with posts above that the likes of Boscombe, Yeovilton, Leeming, Leuchars are much more realistic prospects for use as NATO forward operating bases, and with a few (tens of) millions thrown at them could probably be bought up to a decent enough spec for dispersal type operations by USAF aircraft.
Yeovilton does already have Nato on Base ......it'd be nice to see to some different kit .....as much as its a dream

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Re: USAF is "planning" to reactivate 20-25 Cold War era airbases in Europe (Rumour)

Post by warthog81 » Tue Oct 10, 2023 3:11 pm

Silly to build housing estates over places like Upper Heyford and Alconbury. I cannot see any of the old bases being brought back but with large US investment if they really wanted to I would imagine something could be done with Sculthorpe and Woodbridge. Bentwaters might be also be possible. All former UK USAFE bases and many RAF should have been retained as strategic reserve sites.

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Post by Vulcanone » Tue Oct 10, 2023 4:26 pm

warthog81 wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2023 3:11 pm
Silly to build housing estates over places like Upper Heyford and Alconbury. I cannot see any of the old bases being brought back but with large US investment if they really wanted to I would imagine something could be done with Sculthorpe and Woodbridge. Bentwaters might be also be possible. All former UK USAFE bases and many RAF should have been retained as strategic reserve sites.
Yes, but they would have needed money to keep them in a reasonable state.... And we all know neither political party has done much to stop the pruning of assets..

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Post by roughcutter » Tue Oct 10, 2023 4:48 pm

Could Honington be redeemable? I think the last time it saw action was in 95 when the 48th temporarily set up shop whilst the runway at LN was being refurbished.
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Post by Vulcanone » Tue Oct 10, 2023 5:06 pm

roughcutter wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2023 4:48 pm
Could Honington be redeemable? I think the last time it saw action was in 95 when the 48th temporarily set up shop whilst the runway at LN was being refurbished.
Last I heard was its runway was not in the best of shape, however that does therefore pose a question about some airfields that are used for Biz jets and other not quite light aviation etc, operating from ex RAF bases that have not, as far as I know had any work done on the runways for years.... North Weald, and Biggin Hill amongst others

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Re: USAF is "planning" to reactivate 20-25 Cold War era airbases in Europe (Rumour)

Post by Nighthawke » Tue Oct 10, 2023 6:34 pm

Honington infrastructure has gone as far as I recall. Most of this thread is pie in the sky anyway.

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Post by tm74sqn » Tue Oct 10, 2023 6:52 pm

Manston in Kent apparently being re-opened as an airport - rumour or rubbish?

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Post by Vulcanone » Tue Oct 10, 2023 7:40 pm

Manston was confirmed as reopening last week..... It still has to become reality however

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Post by Vulcanone » Tue Oct 10, 2023 7:41 pm

Nighthawke wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2023 6:34 pm
Honington infrastructure has gone as far as I recall. Most of this thread is pie in the sky anyway.
I do tend to agree :pop:

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Re: USAF is "planning" to reactivate 20-25 Cold War era airbases in Europe (Rumour)

Post by Sparts99 » Wed Oct 11, 2023 8:52 am

Vulcanone wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2023 7:40 pm
Manston was confirmed as reopening last week..... It still has to become reality however
Polar helicopters still operate from there but only from an old dispersal off the peri track. There are GA events there now and again so there must be some useable runway. I really can't see Manston being viable long term, or at least the full runway being retained if it does come back to life. The advantage of good road and potential rail links to Europe via tha channel tunnel has gone now, its too far from London, where's the market?
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Re: USAF is "planning" to reactivate 20-25 Cold War era airbases in Europe (Rumour)

Post by Seahornet1 » Wed Oct 11, 2023 7:40 pm

Vulcanone wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2023 7:41 pm
Nighthawke wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2023 6:34 pm
Honington infrastructure has gone as far as I recall. Most of this thread is pie in the sky anyway.
I do tend to agree :pop:
Indeed. Even calling it a rumour gives it more credibility than it warrents. My guess is that someone made it up, just for the fun of the reaction. :unsure:

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Re: USAF is "planning" to reactivate 20-25 Cold War era airbases in Europe (Rumour)

Post by Thunder » Wed Oct 11, 2023 7:45 pm

Did the USAF even have 20-25 bases in Europe to start with?

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Re: USAF is "planning" to reactivate 20-25 Cold War era airbases in Europe (Rumour)

Post by XWP29 » Wed Oct 11, 2023 7:59 pm

This thread doesn’t do anything for our credibility as a spotting community.

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Re: USAF is "planning" to reactivate 20-25 Cold War era airbases in Europe (Rumour)

Post by luxto » Wed Oct 11, 2023 8:25 pm

Thunder wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2023 7:45 pm
Did the USAF even have 20-25 bases in Europe to start with?
Yes, 30+. I can think of 17 active bases in the UK alone.

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Post by Thunder » Wed Oct 11, 2023 8:26 pm

The words “spotting” and “creditably”, don’t belong in the same sentence🤔

@Luxto, you must be slot older than me then to remember that many🤣

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Re: USAF is "planning" to reactivate 20-25 Cold War era airbases in Europe (Rumour)

Post by Vulcanone » Thu Oct 12, 2023 12:00 pm

Sparts99 wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2023 8:52 am
Vulcanone wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2023 7:40 pm
Manston was confirmed as reopening last week..... It still has to become reality however
Polar helicopters still operate from there but only from an old dispersal off the peri track. There are GA events there now and again so there must be some useable runway. I really can't see Manston being viable long term, or at least the full runway being retained if it does come back to life. The advantage of good road and potential rail links to Europe via tha channel tunnel has gone now, its too far from London, where's the market?
Airfreight has been touted?

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