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Royal International Air Tattoo 2023 General Discussion Thread

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Royal International Air Tattoo 2023 General Discussion Thread

Post by thevulcan » Tue Dec 13, 2022 7:23 pm

It's that time of year again folks

USAF ACC demo schedules are out no F-16 or A-10 demo teams for RIAT next year as they are commited to other events.

The F-22 and F-35 Demo teams do have a gap over the RIAT weekend in both there schedules. Of course this doesn't mean they are confirmed or even attending but all we can do is hope Fingers crossed.

As for the theme for next year's show it is still TBA but based off the past few years with last year being Trainers and the year before being ISTAR and Maritime Patrol and the year before that being Airpower (Fighters etc) I wonder if next year's theme will be Tankers and transports? (just a thought probably wrong :whistle: )
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Re: Royal International Air Tattoo 2023 General Discussion Thread

Post by Professor_M » Tue Dec 13, 2022 7:34 pm

thevulcan wrote:
Tue Dec 13, 2022 7:23 pm
I wonder if next year's theme will be Tankers and transports? (just a thought probably wrong :whistle: )
Next year does mark 80 years of A2A refuelling, so it could be fitting - then again, I'm sure more goes into choosing the operational themes than just anniversaries.

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Re: Royal International Air Tattoo 2023 General Discussion Thread

Post by Discodaz » Wed Dec 14, 2022 6:43 am

i too have been eagerly awaiting the US preliminary show dates calendar, and yet again totally disappointed.no A10s again for RIAT.im beginning to wonder if i will ever see one fly :unsure:

i know there are still gaps for other display teams so, fingers crossed.

I'm personally just hoping RIAT is another step closer to "back to normal" this year with a few more fast jet participants.

lets face it, as much as i enjoyed it ( 'cos its RIAT), it was a bit of a heli and prop fest......


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Re: Royal International Air Tattoo 2023 General Discussion Thread

Post by GVLCN » Wed Dec 14, 2022 11:18 pm

It’s quite clear to me RIAT 2023 will be the biggest flop yet, no mention of aircraft themes or anything aviation related! All I constantly get bombarded with is how much we can rip you off with a £1000 a night glamping pod for the arrivals, how to spend an extra £500 on additional enclosures once I’ve paid my FRIAT pass.

The whole thing is turned into a joke & I will be avoiding this circus next year.

I can go to lakenheath or coningsby for free, pay to stay in centre parcs or tattersall lakes at a fraction of the cost & see some decent aircraft.

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Re: Royal International Air Tattoo 2023 General Discussion Thread

Post by Discodaz » Thu Dec 15, 2022 6:37 am

i do agree with one thing..i find it damn annoying after buying your tickets that they bombard you with emails to upgrade. :grr:

the way i see the cost (although expensive) is, it must cost a phenomenal amount of money to get all these nations to Fairford for almost 1 week per year. And where else are you going to get that variety of aircraft in one spot. For me personally, and again i don't disagree its expensive, its worth it for those reasons.

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Re: Royal International Air Tattoo 2023 General Discussion Thread

Post by milaviation » Thu Dec 15, 2022 8:57 pm

Surely they are very late on the theme this year :whistle:

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Re: Royal International Air Tattoo 2023 General Discussion Thread

Post by Professor_M » Thu Dec 15, 2022 9:18 pm

milaviation wrote:
Thu Dec 15, 2022 8:57 pm
Surely they are very late on the theme this year :whistle:
I was thinking exactly the same today, it was on the 19th of November last year that we were told this year's theme, but perhaps that was early as 2020's theme was announced on the 30th January, so we could have a while to wait still.

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Post by Discodaz » Fri Dec 16, 2022 6:44 am

lets not forget, last year they were trying to encourage people to go to large events again.it could have been early to try and sell as many tickets as possible, post covid restrictions.

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Post by timb » Sun Dec 18, 2022 7:20 pm

Lets hope we get a special mkd Argentinian A.F C130H

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Post by bizfreeq » Sun Dec 18, 2022 7:26 pm

GVLCN wrote:
Wed Dec 14, 2022 11:18 pm
It’s quite clear to me RIAT 2023 will be the biggest flop yet, no mention of aircraft themes or anything aviation related! All I constantly get bombarded with is how much we can rip you off with a £1000 a night glamping pod for the arrivals, how to spend an extra £500 on additional enclosures once I’ve paid my FRIAT pass.

The whole thing is turned into a joke & I will be avoiding this circus next year.

I can go to lakenheath or coningsby for free, pay to stay in centre parcs or tattersall lakes at a fraction of the cost & see some decent aircraft.
I'm sure they'll be gutted to hear you're not coming! 🤣 In the meantime the rest of us will enjoy your 'flop' with all its myriad attendees whilst you're sat lonely watching grey Typhoon after grey Typhoon whiz past the caravan
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Re: Royal International Air Tattoo 2023 General Discussion Thread

Post by Kurnass » Sun Dec 18, 2022 7:41 pm

Discodaz wrote:
Wed Dec 14, 2022 6:43 am
i too have been eagerly awaiting the US preliminary show dates calendar, and yet again totally disappointed.no A10s again for RIAT.im beginning to wonder if i will ever see one fly :unsure:

i know there are still gaps for other display teams so, fingers crossed.

I'm personally just hoping RIAT is another step closer to "back to normal" this year with a few more fast jet participants.

lets face it, as much as i enjoyed it ( 'cos its RIAT), it was a bit of a heli and prop fest......


......BRING ON THE BURNERS......

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If you want to see A-10’s (or ANG F-15/F-16), you should consider a Germany trip next year, as many of them will participate in a nice exercise. Word is some 30+ F-15, 16 ANG F-16 and probably 24 ANG A-10’s. Talking about burners 😉

Exercise will be in June, so unfortunately doesn’t coincide with RIAT

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Post by Discodaz » Wed Dec 21, 2022 7:18 pm

thanks for the heads up but i dont do going abroad so i doubt that would happen.

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Post by Gary » Fri Dec 23, 2022 12:42 am

Never seen the point in the themes. How many times over the years have they used for example a mini tiger meet as a theme only for nothing to show up.

Calling it a flop over 7 months before the show is laughable at best.

Same as all the people who went off on a rant when the new FRIAT pricing was announced only to book at the first opportunity. Fear of missing out will make 99% go again next year.

It’s not just DBH who have ramped up their marketing. Everyone has been more active. DBH know they will have a tough time persuading for family to pay for general entrance tickets let alone an upgrade when they don’t know if they can afford to put the heating on at the moment.

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Post by sneezy24 » Wed Dec 28, 2022 3:08 pm

Just got my tickets for Thursday, Saturday and Monday.

How about getting the Korean Black Eagles back? Superb display!
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Post by reaper493 » Thu Dec 29, 2022 8:27 am

USAF Heritage flight displays have just been released, 3x Overseas Airshows mentioned in July, RIAT looks good to get one of them.

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Post by local to Brize » Thu Dec 29, 2022 4:26 pm

USAF Heritage flight :- Royal International Air Tattoo | RAF Fairford, UK | July 15-17 | F-35, A-10

The A-10 will please a few people (including myself)

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Boeing Chinook HC6A
Lockheed Martin F-35B Lightning II

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Boeing KC-135R Stratotanker (SKYTANKER)
Boeing CV-22B Osprey
Lockheed Martin MC-130J Commando II


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SIAI-Marchetti SF.260D

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FIAT G.46 (x3)
FIAT G.91R
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North American Harvard Mk. IV
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North American P-51D Mustang
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Piaggio P-166C
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Scottish Aviation Bulldog T1
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Slingsby T66 Nipper - Aerial Vocations Limited
Stinson Reliant Navy Wings
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Supermarine Spitfire XIX - Rolls Royce Heritage Flight
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General Dynamics F-16CJ Fighting Falcon (x2)
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Lockheed C-130H Hercules

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Cessna Citation

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Boeing C-17A Globemaster III
Lockheed C-130H Hercules


Visitor
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Dassault Falcon 900EX

Cancelled

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Boeing 737

CIVILIAN
Cessna L-19A Bird Dog Private Operator
Aero Vodochody L-159E Honey Badger - Draken Europe

CZECH REPUBLIC - CZECH AIR FORCE
Aero Vodochody L-159 ALCA


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Eurocopter AS365N3 Dauphin
NH90 NFH

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BAE Hawk

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Airbus Helicopters H145M LUH SOP

ITALY - ITALIAN AIR FORCE
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Lockheed C-130H Hercules

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Turkish Stars - 6x NF-5A Freedom Fighter

UNITED STATES OF AMERICA - US AIR FORCE
Boeing KC-46A Pegasus 78th Air Refueling Squadron SKYTANKER
Gulfstream C-37A

ZAMBIA - ZAMBIAN AIR FORCE
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In discussion to Attend

Brazilian Air Force
Slovenian Army Aviation Command


Declined
Argentine Air Force, Royal Australian Air Force, Austrian Air Force, Bangladesh Air Force, Armed Forces of Bosnia-Herzegovina, Brazilian Air Force, Bulgarian Air Force, Chilean Air Force, Chilean Navy, Cyprus Air Force Command, Egyptian Air Force, French Navy, German Navy, Hellenic Army, Hellenic Navy, Indian Air Force, Indonesian Air Force, Iraqi Air Force, Israeli Air Force, Italian Coastguard, Japan Air Self Defense Force, Japan Maritime Self Defence Force, Kuwait Air Force, Royal Malaysian Air Force, Mexican Air Force, Royal New Zealand Air Force, Pakistan Air Force, Polish Armed Forces, Polish Navy, Republic of Singapore Air Force, Serbian Air Force, Slovenian Army Aviation Command, Turkish Air Force, US Coast Guard, US Marine Corps, Zambian Air Force
FRIDAY

CIVILIAN
SAAB JAS-39E Gripen


DENMARK - ROYAL DANISH AIR FORCE
General Dynamics F-16AM Fighting Falcon

FRANCE - FRENCH AIR AND SPACE FORCE
Boeing C-135FR Stratotanker

ITALY - ITALIAN ARMY
Agusta AH-129D Mangusta

KINGDOM OF SAUDI ARABIA - ROYAL SAUDI AIR FORCE
BAE Systems Hawk Mk.65 (x7)

SPAIN - SPANISH NAVY
McDonnell Douglas EAV-8B Harrier II

SWEDEN - SWEDISH AIR FORCE
SAAB SK.60

UNITED KINGDOM - ROYAL AIR FORCE
BBMF Avro Lancaster/Hawker Hurricane/Supermarine Spitfire
Red Arrows BAE Systems Hawk T1 (x8)
Eurofighter Typhoon FGR4
Airbus Voyager KC3
Airbus Atlas C1
Lockheed Martin F-35B Lightning II


ARRIVALS
Hungarian JAS-39C
NATO MMU A330-MRTT
AAC Apache AH2
AAC Wildcat
AAC Gazelle x2
RN Merlin
Historic Helicopters SeaKing
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Re: Royal International Air Tattoo 2023 General Discussion Thread

Post by peasus911 » Thu Dec 29, 2022 7:19 pm

The 2023 dates have been posted by Flightline UK on Twitter. Very sketchy as it doesn't disclose the Aircraft type committed but does leave a space during the RIAT weekend for a Overseas Show.
Fingers crossed for some more solid and positive news in the spring.

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Re: Royal International Air Tattoo 2023 General Discussion Thread

Post by Gary » Sun Jan 01, 2023 11:30 am

Email from DBH says early bird tickets end on Tuesday for anyone wanting to save a little cash

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Re: Royal International Air Tattoo 2023 General Discussion Thread

Post by Tiger 1 » Mon Jan 02, 2023 4:01 pm

Thanks for the Info Gary

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