Formula 1 2022

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Lando?

Boy wonder. Lando just drove like a merchant banker, as did a few drivers this weekend. Listen to the post race radio.

A few drivers and teams need a good kick in the teeth after this weekend. But for us, WOOOOW. Best race weekend for a looong long time.

[seven]

I'd sit him out for the next race. His attitude is disgusting.

[seven]

Oh, and Ocon, his attitude was taking the waste liquid also, but at least he followed though.

[2e1var]

Anyone really surprised by Max ? Measure of the man.

[seven]

Must admit, I was by the radio. It says something when you lose opinion on someone you struggle to name a worse individual than...

Also, 'this is the first time we've heard God Save The King at a Grand Prix', is there a difference between the instrumental God Save The Queen and the above!?

[seven]

Merc have really found some pace recently - I hope this isn't a portent for another era of domination by the German mega business

Mercedes only dominated in 2014 and 2020. The rest of the time blundering failures by the competition were as much championship defining as Merc performance.
Similar with the Reb Dull 'domination', though at least Rosberg was capable at times of matching Hamilton, whereas Webber, Bottas, Gasly, Albon and Perez are distinctly lacking in that department. You can't take the 'history books' as the whole story. (Especially when they have been manipulated!)

[raptor9]

Well, was hoping for a Lewis win, but a heck of a good result. Slogen, it may be boring having a very dominant team, but I well remember Sir Frank Williams saying, years ago when they were dominant 'it's not up to us to go slower. It's up to the others to go faster!!.'

[Hurn]

Congrats to Posh Boy for getting his first win.

Hope the mods see fit to clean up this thread (again) from some disgusting remarks from a certain immature poster.

[James Cutting]

However he did really show his true colours today. He has this 2 titles largely down to his wingman's driving too. He has a record breaking season with some merit to his driving. Yet refused his teammate the chance to strengthen his P2 standing.

[seven]

Without Perez's defence in AD21 he wouldn't be champion (ignoring what didn't happen) and he has certainly been second fiddle early on.

As I recall mad max still came out well behind Hamilton even with his defending. (Which the praised over team radio, short memory eh!)

[seven]

Can't help but think whilst we've been blessed with two great sprint races in Brazil, a large part of it is down to out of position cars. Under normal circumstances its just chances for the fastest cars to get more points!

[2e1var]

Sure Hamilton could’ve left a little more space…Verstappen was turning right and near enough longside…racing incident?

I'd agree with that. I said exactly the same thing at the time. Even if the penalty was unjust, maybe its just a year late(turn 4).

2021, Silverstone, going into copse. Hamilton got up the inside, ahead at one point but not fully going into the corner, wasn't going to make the apex, they touch, Max goes off. From Max's POV Lewis completely in the wrong. Stewards issue a 10s penalty.
2022, Sao Paulo, going into turn 2. Max got up the inside, ahead at one point but not fully going into the corner, wasn't going to make the apex, they touch, Lewis goes off. From Max's POV Lewis completely in the wrong.
Stewards issue a 5s penalty.
Max actually said in the pen that he knew the gap would close but went for it anyway. ???
Awful behaviour from Max regards letting Perez through, a 5th place means nothing to him, the only thing it would achieve would be to stop Perez getting second in the drivers and RB's first one-two. He made a decision to try and stop his team mate getting 2nd place, think about that. God they squirmed during the post race questions. One season of dominance from Max and already thinks he's bigger than the team. People speak of a more relaxed and mature Max this year, yup, right up until the point he's not winning then the brat is back.

[raptor9]

Absolutely dreadful unsportsmanlike behaviour from Max towards Perez. What an arrogant little p...k he sometimes is!.

[seven]

Sure Hamilton could’ve left a little more space…Verstappen was turning right and near enough longside…racing incident?

I'd agree with that. I said exactly the same thing at the time. Even if the penalty was unjust, maybe its just a year late(turn 4).

2021, Silverstone, going into copse. Hamilton got up the inside, ahead at one point but not fully going into the corner, wasn't going to make the apex, they touch, Max goes off. From Max's POV Lewis completely in the wrong. Stewards issue a 10s penalty.
2022, Sao Paulo, going into turn 2. Max got up the inside, ahead at one point but not fully going into the corner, wasn't going to make the apex, they touch, Lewis goes off. From Max's POV Lewis completely in the wrong.
Stewards issue a 5s penalty.
Max actually said in the pen that he knew the gap would close but went for it anyway. ???
Awful behaviour from Max regards letting Perez through, a 5th place means nothing to him, the only thing it would achieve would be to stop Perez getting second in the drivers and RB's first one-two. He made a decision to try and stop his team mate getting 2nd place, think about that. God they squirmed during the post race questions. One season of dominance from Max and already thinks he's bigger than the team. People speak of a more relaxed and mature Max this year, yup, right up until the point he's not winning then the brat is back.

Spot on as far as I can see!

[Pune]

I'd agree with that. I said exactly the same thing at the time. Even if the penalty was unjust, maybe its just a year late(turn 4).

2021, Silverstone, going into copse. Hamilton got up the inside, ahead at one point but not fully going into the corner, wasn't going to make the apex, they touch, Max goes off. From Max's POV Lewis completely in the wrong. Stewards issue a 10s penalty.
2022, Sao Paulo, going into turn 2. Max got up the inside, ahead at one point but not fully going into the corner, wasn't going to make the apex, they touch, Lewis goes off. From Max's POV Lewis completely in the wrong.
Stewards issue a 5s penalty.
Max actually said in the pen that he knew the gap would close but went for it anyway. ???
Awful behaviour from Max regards letting Perez through, a 5th place means nothing to him, the only thing it would achieve would be to stop Perez getting second in the drivers and RB's first one-two. He made a decision to try and stop his team mate getting 2nd place, think about that. God they squirmed during the post race questions. One season of dominance from Max and already thinks he's bigger than the team. People speak of a more relaxed and mature Max this year, yup, right up until the point he's not winning then the brat is back.

Spot on as far as I can see!

Summed up perfectly, Max is indeed a spoiled brat..

[time on target]

My last GP after the events at Sao Paulo. Arrogance and selfishness behaviour of Verstappen, Leclerc and Ocon towards team members. Red Bull always complaining. FIA rules which seem to be ignored or bent to suit the circumstances due to pressure from a well known team. How many laps did it take to remove a car which was already virtually off the track and then have to wait while other cars had to "unlap" themselves. WHY!!

[seven]

Absolutely dreadful unsportsmanlike behaviour from Max towards Perez. What an arrogant little p...k he sometimes is!.

Sometimes?

TBF IF the accusations against Perez are true then he has a point. However they just don't make any sense.

Also amusing to see horrible horner was less than his normal projective self during the post race interviews, and notable they failed to condemn verstappens actions.

[seven]

My last GP after the events at Sao Paulo. Arrogance and selfishness behaviour of Verstappen, Leclerc and Ocon towards team members. Red Bull always complaining. FIA rules which seem to be ignored or bent to suit the circumstances due to pressure from a well known team. How many laps did it take to remove a car which was already virtually off the track and then have to wait while other cars had to "unlap" themselves. WHY!!

I don't feel Leclerc was out of line asking for the position, as he is fighting for P2. IMO Ferrari should have given him it, but that would make sense and that's not Ferrari's M.O.
And yes the safety car was a joke. Even more so when you read the FIA's statement regarding why Tsunoda was not allowed to unhappy himself.
Then again, there was nothing stopping Norris rolling the car further behind the barriers, unless there's a rule preventing such that I'm not aware of...

[Red-Eye-Knight]

Absolutely dreadful unsportsmanlike behaviour from Max towards Perez. What an arrogant little p...k he sometimes is!.

Sometimes? You mean all the time , Have to agree though he was under orders from his boss and he basically ignored them shows a complete disrespect for his boss, team and his team mate, I mean how many times has Perez helped out Max in the past? Loads and he cannot move out the way for his team mate to get more points even though his championship is over.

I really cannot stand the little git and this just shows how he cares about himself and himself only!!!!

[Red-Eye-Knight]

My last GP after the events at Sao Paulo. Arrogance and selfishness behaviour of Verstappen, Leclerc and Ocon towards team members. Red Bull always complaining. FIA rules which seem to be ignored or bent to suit the circumstances due to pressure from a well known team. How many laps did it take to remove a car which was already virtually off the track and then have to wait while other cars had to "unlap" themselves. WHY!!

I don't feel Leclerc was out of line asking for the position, as he is fighting for P2. IMO Ferrari should have given him it, but that would make sense and that's not Ferrari's M.O.
And yes the safety car was a joke. Even more so when you read the FIA's statement regarding why Tsunoda was not allowed to unhappy himself.
Then again, there was nothing stopping Norris rolling the car further behind the barriers, unless there's a rule preventing such that I'm not aware of...

When did Tsunoda not make himself unhappy

Have to disagree with you about Leclerc as he was asking for his team mate to give up a podium position sorry you cannot do that if the were 4th and 5th then yeah but a podium position sorry no.