Did you know that registration to Fighter Control is completely free and brings you lots of added features? Find out more....

Two more US F-35 Sqns to the Lakenheath, UK

A forum for discussing all things related to MILITARY AVIATION including Military Aviation news. No off-topic discussions here please.
TS010
Posts: 846
Joined: Mon Oct 12, 2009 12:08 pm
Location: Eastern End of the Dee Valley LFA7/9

Re: Two more US F-35 Sqns to the UK

Post by TS010 » Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:07 pm

Philwinward wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 11:00 am
Just a thought about relocating F35 (or airframes to make space for more F35) .Does Fairford have permanently installed arrestor gear or is it a temporary fit for RIAT ?
Can’t see the U2 guys happy with cables going up and down.
Arrestor gear wasn't a problem at Alconbury when they operated RF-4C, F-5E and TR-1's.

hvaneupen
Posts: 327
Joined: Tue Oct 06, 2015 8:12 pm

Re: Two more US F-35 Sqns to the UK

Post by hvaneupen » Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:13 pm

Snoop55 wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 12:37 pm
hvaneupen wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 11:52 am
Or swapping (or relocating to another European base) the F15E's at Lakenheath with more F35's...
I'd relocate the F15E's to make space at LN for the F35's.

Possible locations for F15's I guess would be Mildenhall, Fairford or maybe Honington (had F15's there before and down the road).
The F15E’s could come to Spangdahlem with the F16’s joining at Aviano. Simple, cheap (relatively) and effective.

User avatar
markranger
Posts: 3249
Joined: Sun Oct 04, 2009 5:01 pm
Contact:

Re: Two more US F-35 Sqns to the UK

Post by markranger » Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:22 pm

hvaneupen wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:13 pm
Snoop55 wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 12:37 pm
hvaneupen wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 11:52 am
Or swapping (or relocating to another European base) the F15E's at Lakenheath with more F35's...
I'd relocate the F15E's to make space at LN for the F35's.

Possible locations for F15's I guess would be Mildenhall, Fairford or maybe Honington (had F15's there before and down the road).
The F15E’s could come to Spangdahlem with the F16’s joining at Aviano. Simple, cheap (relatively) and effective.
Lots of eagle infrastructure and LN , You would think they will stay,.
Nikon D850
Nikon D600
Nikon D500
Nikon 300 F2.8 VR1

Kiedelday1
Posts: 6
Joined: Fri Apr 29, 2022 6:31 pm

Re: Two more US F-35 Sqns to the UK

Post by Kiedelday1 » Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:37 pm

Cold War bases no go only Heyford still has most airfield buildings intact,Sculthorpe is a no starter the tower was knocked down in May but the runway is in good condition as used by mildenhall A/C a lot Marham might be ok or F-15e,s to Germany to make more room at lakenheath . Jim

FFDspotter
Posts: 315
Joined: Sun Apr 07, 2019 9:55 pm
Location: RAF Fairford

Re: Two more US F-35 Sqns to the UK

Post by FFDspotter » Wed Jun 29, 2022 2:14 pm

Presuming this is only a temporary deployment. Lakenheath could easily manage 2 squadrons, as only 14 of the 50 F35s have been delivered so far. Wouldn’t these two additional squadrons be temporarily based there until the 493 & 495 are at full capacity. Can’t see them deploying 2 full squadrons either (more likely 8-12 aircraft from each unit) meaning roughly 40 f35s and 50 f15s at Lakenheath - which is what they’ve been redeveloping the base to hold anyway? Just my thoughts, can’t see them reopening any other bases, especially when there’s Lakenheath and marham (and Fairford at a long shot)
Last edited by FFDspotter on Wed Jun 29, 2022 2:23 pm, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
Thunder
Posts: 5294
Joined: Sat Jan 02, 2010 10:24 pm

Re: Two more US F-35 Sqns to the UK

Post by Thunder » Wed Jun 29, 2022 2:17 pm

Some of the posts on here regards to possible airfields are beyond laughable. There’s a difference from a CV-22 and the odd MC-130 using an austere runway then using the same runway for a 5th Gen Fighter. None of the ex bases are even available yet alone useable. Only base in the UK capable of handling them long term is Lakenheath and at a push Fairford.

KevinJ
Posts: 216
Joined: Wed Aug 18, 2010 4:08 pm

Re: Two more US F-35 Sqns to the UK

Post by KevinJ » Wed Jun 29, 2022 2:37 pm

Lakenheath would struggle to host another 2 squadrons, it's not just about having parking spots. The 495th and 493rd are spinning up and will be expanding quickly this year, you can't just sling another few hundred squadron personnel in. They have the capacity for one deployed unit but never two unless a F-15E unit moves out or deploys for 6 months, which I suppose is a possibility but not right now. Moving entire squadrons takes months so I don't see much happening soon anyway. Case of wait and see.

Andy_99
Posts: 988
Joined: Tue Jan 28, 2014 12:37 pm
Location: Hebburn

Re: Two more US F-35 Sqns to the UK

Post by Andy_99 » Wed Jun 29, 2022 2:47 pm

I've always thought selling off all the old bases & putting eggs into less baskets a bad idea. Bet some people are thinking if only we had the benefit of hindsight. The way things are moving we'll be back to Cold war era pretty sharpish.

PapaIndiaKilo30
Posts: 40
Joined: Thu Jun 02, 2022 5:13 pm

Re: Two more US F-35 Sqns to the UK

Post by PapaIndiaKilo30 » Wed Jun 29, 2022 2:54 pm

slogen51 wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:24 am
Already received a text mentioning Prestwick - everything else goes there so why not ? :)
Well that would be interesting now wouldn't it... :pop:

User avatar
Adam Palmer
Posts: 166
Joined: Sat Jun 13, 2015 5:26 pm
Location: Colchester

Re: Two more US F-35 Sqns to the UK

Post by Adam Palmer » Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:04 pm

2 F35 Squadrons to be forward-Stationed to Lakenheath

https://www.defense.gov/News/Releases/R ... to-europe/

stuie492
Posts: 163
Joined: Sun Apr 18, 2010 6:54 am

Re: Two more US F-35 Sqns to the UK

Post by stuie492 » Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:16 pm

Lakenheath was obviously the first choice.....whoever mentioned Alconbury.thats now a housing estate 🤣

slogen51
Moderator
Posts: 57804
Joined: Mon Jun 10, 2013 8:11 am
Location: Norfolk - Mundford - YG-BSM

Re: Two more US F-35 Sqns to the UK

Post by slogen51 » Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:33 pm

Thanks for the link. With regards the UK and Poland; when referring to Poland the text uses WILL , for example will rotate a CAB etc. However, regarding the two Squadrons in the UK the text uses ARE :-

" In the United Kingdom, we are increasing our Fifth Generation Fighter presence "

Vs

" In Poland, we will permanently forward station ..... "


The difference maybe subtle but 'will' be is something going to happen and 'are' is something already being done. In other words the two Squadrons are already standing up :- 495FS and 493FS

Northsky
Posts: 591
Joined: Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:35 am

Re: Two more US F-35 Sqns to the UK

Post by Northsky » Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:39 pm

Yes this is what is really going to happen.

Snoop 95
Posts: 2056
Joined: Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:17 pm
Location: West Suffolk

Re: Two more US F-35 Sqns to the UK

Post by Snoop 95 » Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:52 pm

I note from Twitter that the 48th FW change of Command has seen the outgoing Colonel replaced by a Brigadier General. Could be significant in light of the forecast deployment of additional F35's.

stuie492
Posts: 163
Joined: Sun Apr 18, 2010 6:54 am

Re: Two more US F-35 Sqns to the UK

Post by stuie492 » Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:57 pm

48th FW asking for the impending deployment not to be mentioned on social media

f-4
Posts: 295
Joined: Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:45 pm

Re: Two more US F-35 Sqns to the UK

Post by f-4 » Wed Jun 29, 2022 4:30 pm

I don't want to be a party pooper but I expect the 'additional' squadrons are what were already planned, i.e. 493rd and 495th. Political spin at work. I hope I'm wrong though.

User avatar
Thunder
Posts: 5294
Joined: Sat Jan 02, 2010 10:24 pm

Re: Two more US F-35 Sqns to the UK

Post by Thunder » Wed Jun 29, 2022 4:33 pm

slogen51 wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:33 pm
Thanks for the link. With regards the UK and Poland; when referring to Poland the text uses WILL , for example will rotate a CAB etc. However, regarding the two Squadrons in the UK the text uses ARE :-

" In the United Kingdom, we are increasing our Fifth Generation Fighter presence "

Vs

" In Poland, we will permanently forward station ..... "


The difference maybe subtle but 'will' be is something going to happen and 'are' is something already being done. In other words the two Squadrons are already standing up :- 495FS and 493FS

Yes reading the DoD press release, it doesn’t mention ‘additional’ at all, so I would also assume they are referring to the two units already in the process of standing up.

slogen51
Moderator
Posts: 57804
Joined: Mon Jun 10, 2013 8:11 am
Location: Norfolk - Mundford - YG-BSM

Re: Two more US F-35 Sqns to the UK

Post by slogen51 » Wed Jun 29, 2022 4:44 pm

That's how I read it - the two existing Squadrons ARE being increased with Fifth generation jets

Of course I hope Russia see's sense and the war finishes asap but until that happens we will most likely see regular long deployments similar to Inherent Resolve and other ops in the mid East

roger4
Posts: 833
Joined: Mon May 21, 2012 8:09 pm
Location: 1 mile from Benson

Re: Two more US F-35 Sqns to the UK

Post by roger4 » Wed Jun 29, 2022 4:51 pm

Thunder wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 4:33 pm
slogen51 wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:33 pm
Thanks for the link. With regards the UK and Poland; when referring to Poland the text uses WILL , for example will rotate a CAB etc. However, regarding the two Squadrons in the UK the text uses ARE :-

" In the United Kingdom, we are increasing our Fifth Generation Fighter presence "

Vs

" In Poland, we will permanently forward station ..... "


The difference maybe subtle but 'will' be is something going to happen and 'are' is something already being done. In other words the two Squadrons are already standing up :- 495FS and 493FS

Yes reading the DoD press release, it doesn’t mention ‘additional’ at all, so I would also assume they are referring to the two units already in the process of standing up.
But the press release goes on to say that they will be "forward-stationing" two squadrons of F-35s at Lakenheath. The 493rd and 495th have Lakenheath as their permanent homes, so forward-stationing would not be an accurate description. Therefore my money is still on two additional squadrons over and above 493rd/495th (fingers crossed).

User avatar
Blue Diamond
Posts: 3039
Joined: Fri Oct 22, 2010 8:06 am

Re: Two more US F-35 Sqns to the UK

Post by Blue Diamond » Wed Jun 29, 2022 4:54 pm

The obvious place to base the extra F-35 squadrons is RAF Luton. :)
Fighting 92 - The King Cobras
http://www.92squadron.org.uk" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.92squadron.co.uk" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Locked

Return to “The Fighter Control Mess”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Reach1985, warthog81 and 127 guests