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Re: Bruntingthorpe closure

Post by Richard B » Sat Feb 22, 2020 10:25 pm

Not sure how you come to thinks it's official, like as been said it could be back to normal in 12 months time.
Those cars are not going to be there for ever, to much stock running into millions if not billions and depreciation dropping like a stone the longer they sit there.
Plus the cost of storage that Brunti is charging. Will not go down well with the accounts.

a small downturn in a few markets and some stock building by the manufacturer while they look at future production, namely the transition over to producing electric cars. Give it 12 months or more. Bruntingthorpes is just cashing in while its there for the taking.
For all we know those stocks could have been part of a brexit plan, the likes of JLR have started to scale back on production rates.

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Re: Bruntingthorpe closure

Post by The Phantom » Sun Feb 23, 2020 8:30 am

Yes true what you are saying Richard; but not good that a number of the aircraft have to leave. If that's the case the owners at Bruntingthorpe must be expecting it to stay very busy with cars now from here on in.

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Re: Bruntingthorpe closure

Post by The Phantom » Sun Feb 23, 2020 9:16 am

tornado17 wrote:
Sat Feb 22, 2020 8:43 pm
tornado17 wrote:
Fri Feb 21, 2020 9:19 am
I am at the Bucc photo shoot on Saturday and they have said a brief over the future will be given so I'll see what comes of this.
The brief didn't really add anything that's already been said on here but it was said that the Buccs are going, they're currently in negotiations with 2 sites although they weren't named. Some aircraft have to move, some don't which didn't really make sense as it was also mentioned that things could be back to normal in about a years time, as clear as mud at the mo!! The issue is that Brunters has some 27,500 vehicles stored on site, half the runway is covered in cars which I should think will put the kibosh on any fast taxi days this year.
Did they say when they were looking to leave by?
I know elsewhere in the thread someone said that people had been told to leave by June.

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Re: Bruntingthorpe closure

Post by red leader » Sun Feb 23, 2020 11:04 am

I would say it's looking like curtains for any future aviation events. Very sad indeed!
I wonder what will happen to the lightning's?;
Also what ever happened to the RAF Tristars?
Talk about a US buyer a while back but how dyou fly them out??

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Re: Bruntingthorpe closure

Post by Discodaz » Sun Feb 23, 2020 11:38 am

When things like this are threatened,it very rarely improves.imo,I believe it's the beginning of the end.
This hobby is fading fast at the moment..we have the loop that's dying,bruntingthorpe "could" be ending all its aviation activities,Ireland airshow axed,Scottish international airshow axed,bases closing at an alarming rate..it's not looking great,let's be honest.
i know,it's never over till the lady sings etc but,it's looking bleak

Sad times indeed

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Re: Bruntingthorpe closure

Post by Richard B » Sun Feb 23, 2020 11:41 am

The Phantom wrote:
Sun Feb 23, 2020 8:30 am
Yes true what you are saying Richard; but not good that a number of the aircraft have to leave. If that's the case the owners at Bruntingthorpe must be expecting it to stay very busy with cars now from here on in.
Aircraft and stuff have come and gone over the years, look at all those Harriers that where once at Brunti. Number of Hunters have been and gone.

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Re: Bruntingthorpe closure

Post by tornado17 » Sun Feb 23, 2020 2:46 pm

The Phantom wrote:
Sun Feb 23, 2020 9:16 am
tornado17 wrote:
Sat Feb 22, 2020 8:43 pm
tornado17 wrote:
Fri Feb 21, 2020 9:19 am
I am at the Bucc photo shoot on Saturday and they have said a brief over the future will be given so I'll see what comes of this.
The brief didn't really add anything that's already been said on here but it was said that the Buccs are going, they're currently in negotiations with 2 sites although they weren't named. Some aircraft have to move, some don't which didn't really make sense as it was also mentioned that things could be back to normal in about a years time, as clear as mud at the mo!! The issue is that Brunters has some 27,500 vehicles stored on site, half the runway is covered in cars which I should think will put the kibosh on any fast taxi days this year.
Did they say when they were looking to leave by?
I know elsewhere in the thread someone said that people had been told to leave by June.
No time scale was given unfortunately.
red leader wrote:
Sun Feb 23, 2020 11:04 am
I would say it's looking like curtains for any future aviation events. Very sad indeed!
I wonder what will happen to the lightning's?;
Also what ever happened to the RAF Tristars?
Talk about a US buyer a while back but how dyou fly them out??
It was mentioned it may be back to normal in a years time so it's not curtains just yet!! Stay positive!! :pop:
No mention of which other aircraft are or having to leave.
The Tristars are still there. With half the runway full of cars, I don't know how they'd fly them out of there if they ever get the permit to fly to the US.

Being an ex Nimrod boy, it was sad to see the top of the Nimrod's fuselage is the same colour as the Tristars, green!! :(

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Re: Bruntingthorpe closure

Post by burleysway » Thu Mar 05, 2020 5:33 pm

Update on Bruntingthorpe Proving Ground has just been posted on their website.

https://www.bruntingthorpe.com/news-and ... cquisition

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Re: Bruntingthorpe closure

Post by Discodaz » Thu Mar 05, 2020 8:33 pm

burleysway wrote:
Thu Mar 05, 2020 5:33 pm
Update on Bruntingthorpe Proving Ground has just been posted on their website.

https://www.bruntingthorpe.com/news-and ... cquisition
Does this mean it's over for the aviation events??

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Re: Bruntingthorpe closure

Post by Ghastly Whisper » Thu Mar 05, 2020 8:51 pm

Looking through the above link and then reading the aviation page, at no point does it say the place is closed for good.

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Post by ColintheCaterpillar » Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:48 pm

Ghastly Whisper wrote:
Thu Mar 05, 2020 8:51 pm
Looking through the above link and then reading the aviation page, at no point does it say the place is closed for good.
I wouldn’t hold your breath. I think it’s the new owners current activities, and their growth, on the site that have severely restricted the aviation activities and stifled the Open Days in the past 2 years.

I think the aviation events only really survived due to Dave Walton’s enthusiasm. They aren’t hugely profitable, and each aircraft on the site potentially costs 10s of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of potential lost revenue.

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Re: Bruntingthorpe closure

Post by PeteHemsley » Fri Mar 06, 2020 8:52 am

Ghastly Whisper wrote:
Thu Mar 05, 2020 8:51 pm
Looking through the above link and then reading the aviation page, at no point does it say the place is closed for good.
The whole site is expanding and more and more vehicles arriving. There's no chance this business is going to get smaller or move to another location. Thunder days etc are a thing of the past now. Another loss to our community.

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Re: Bruntingthorpe closure

Post by The Phantom » Fri Mar 06, 2020 2:19 pm

Though nothing has been clarified for sure, this is looking to be very sad news :'(

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Re: Bruntingthorpe closure

Post by Discodaz » Fri Mar 06, 2020 5:56 pm

Given the fact the taxi run was due to be may,I think they owe it to the enthusiasts to let us know for sure one way or another prety quickly.although I think we all know which way it's going.

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Re: Bruntingthorpe closure

Post by Del » Fri Mar 06, 2020 6:39 pm

Discodaz wrote:
Fri Mar 06, 2020 5:56 pm
Given the fact the taxi run was due to be may,I think they owe it to the enthusiasts to let us know for sure one way or another prety quickly.although I think we all know which way it's going.
Totally agree. I was planning Duxford on the Saturday and then over to Bruntingthorpe on the Sunday. If it's not going to happen I'd like to make other plans, and
that involves tickets/hotels etc
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Re: Bruntingthorpe closure

Post by Discodaz » Sat Mar 07, 2020 10:10 am

Del wrote:
Fri Mar 06, 2020 6:39 pm
Discodaz wrote:
Fri Mar 06, 2020 5:56 pm
Given the fact the taxi run was due to be may,I think they owe it to the enthusiasts to let us know for sure one way or another prety quickly.although I think we all know which way it's going.
Totally agree. I was planning Duxford on the Saturday and then over to Bruntingthorpe on the Sunday. If it's not going to happen I'd like to make other plans, and
that involves tickets/hotels etc
Exactly.people have to organise these events as mush as they do.they are never on your doorstep so like you said,hotels etc have to be booked and payed for..this,in my opinion shows sheer lack of respect to the fans that made them what they are.can you imagine what it would be like if riat was acting this way? You can't get an hotel within 60 miles, 7 months before the event. So you would have no chance this close

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Re: Bruntingthorpe closure

Post by Supra » Sat Mar 07, 2020 11:08 am

[/quote] Exactly.people have to organise these events as mush as they do.they are never on your doorstep so like you said,hotels etc have to be booked and payed for..this,in my opinion shows sheer lack of respect to the fans that made them what they are.can you imagine what it would be like if riat was acting this way? You can't get an hotel within 60 miles, 7 months before the event. So you would have no chance this close
Daz
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"Respecting, owing, disregarding Enthusiasts"...call it what you like? These are strong emotions over a situation not of their making. If the individual groups within the Bruntingthorpe airfield have no idea what's happening, imagine their concerns about their future tenure. 'Slightly' more significant than a worry over hotel rooms & a packed-lunch getting binned!
There's no excuse these days for not booking a 'free cancellation' room in a nearby hotel (pay when you stay) for all 5 Sundays in May? ;) Cancel the one by one or entirely once the situation becomes clear? Simples!....compared to the logistics of a live-running event, set-up costs & insurance....or maybe transporting a large jet elsewhere? :O
You mention RIAT. In the current health hype, that event could yet get cancelled! (although I tend to hope the COVID 19 will be history by then) Just suggesting you spare a thought for others (humanity even) in your blinkered views of entitlement? :thumb:

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Re: Bruntingthorpe closure

Post by bizfreeq » Sat Mar 07, 2020 11:56 am

Well said Supra, I was going to chirp in on this but you've covered everything I was going to say :thumb:
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Re: Bruntingthorpe closure

Post by Del » Sat Mar 07, 2020 12:13 pm

Really ? Why is it unreasonable to ask for an update on an event 11 weeks away ? Someone knows if it's been cancelled or if negotiations are ongoing.
If negotiations are ongoing, just say so and when we might expect a decision.
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Re: Bruntingthorpe closure

Post by ColintheCaterpillar » Sat Mar 07, 2020 12:56 pm

Del wrote:
Sat Mar 07, 2020 12:13 pm
Really ? Why is it unreasonable to ask for an update on an event 11 weeks away ? Someone knows if it's been cancelled or if negotiations are ongoing.
If negotiations are ongoing, just say so and when we might expect a decision.
Some of us have been asking for months (since September/October) for an update. All I’ve been told is “if it’s happening it’ll be announced on the website”. As someone who volunteers running the aircraft this isn’t exactly helpful, particularly as preparations to run in May needed to start last month.

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