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Notam for Fuel.

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gordonh
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Notam for Fuel.

Post by gordonh » Sun Jun 22, 2025 2:42 pm

Noticed this earlier. I assume this will affect things for the next few days or so.

NOTAM A4114/25: Glasgow Prestwick Airport (EGPK)
A4114/25 NOTAMN
Q) EGPX/QFULT/IV/NBO/A /000/999/5531N00436W005
A) EGPK B) 2506221100 C) 2506282359
E) LIMITED JET A-1 AVAILABLE. ACFT OPERATORS ARE ASKED TO TANKER
FUEL INTO AD
CREATED: 22 Jun 2025 11:00:00
SOURCE: EUECYIYN

verreli
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Re: Notam for Fuel.

Post by verreli » Sun Jun 22, 2025 6:37 pm

Putting a few more wind turbines in the North Sea will sort that out.

More seriously, I wonder what the root cause is? Logistic? Limited supply?

gordonh
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Re: Notam for Fuel.

Post by gordonh » Sun Jun 22, 2025 7:14 pm

verreli wrote:
Sun Jun 22, 2025 6:37 pm
Putting a few more wind turbines in the North Sea will sort that out.

More seriously, I wonder what the root cause is? Logistic? Limited supply?
Closure of Grangemouth I assume, I think fuel is now brought by rail from Essex.

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Re: Notam for Fuel.

Post by verreli » Sun Jun 22, 2025 7:37 pm

Thanks for the response. While the closure of a local refinery isn't ideal and rail freight from Essex seems crazy, with good planning supply should still be possible. Unless that is, there was an unexpected peak in demand and the supply chain couldn't respond quickly enough. Interesting situation.

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Re: Notam for Fuel.

Post by gordonh » Sun Jun 22, 2025 8:03 pm

verreli wrote:
Sun Jun 22, 2025 7:37 pm
Thanks for the response. While the closure of a local refinery isn't ideal and rail freight from Essex seems crazy, with good planning supply should still be possible. Unless that is, there was an unexpected peak in demand and the supply chain couldn't respond quickly enough. Interesting situation.
I would have thought that the last week or so of military movement's was a bit unexpected. I am sure they have people working on it!

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Re: Notam for Fuel.

Post by diamond chap » Sun Jun 22, 2025 8:47 pm

RCH236 the first to be affected by this - just diverted to Glasgow.

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Re: Notam for Fuel.

Post by AyrForce1 » Sun Jun 22, 2025 8:59 pm

Same thing happened last month for EGPK.
A3035/25 - LIMITED JET A-1 AVAILABLE DUE TO UPSTREAM SUPPLY ISSUES. AIRCRAFT
OPERATORS ARE ASKED TO TANKER FUEL INTO PRESTWICK
FROM: 08 MAY 2025 16:20 TO: 31 MAY 2025 23:59

LJC
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Re: Notam for Fuel.

Post by LJC » Mon Jun 23, 2025 7:57 am

Yes all down to Mr Ineos closing the refinery at Grangemouth and we are now reliant on a train from the Isle of Grain in Kent
Would like to think a trainload of fuel enroute, hopefully someone with insider knowledge might be tuned in and can update.

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Re: Notam for Fuel.

Post by diamond chap » Mon Jun 23, 2025 8:20 am

There's a path every weekday for the below train to Carlisle, which then operates to Prestwick the following day. Only operates when required and doesn't look to be operating today.

https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/servic ... 3/detailed

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Re: Notam for Fuel.

Post by Black Mike » Mon Jun 23, 2025 1:37 pm

The last time I was up, there were what I think were fuel wagons in the sidings near RW12 threshold.

Mike

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Post by H.A.Bucken » Tue Jun 24, 2025 9:23 am

D.C.
As Mike Zellar would say 'as a matter of interest' which freight operator runs the 'as-&-when'; they'll need summat more powerful than a 66 via that routeing.
Roger

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Re: Notam for Fuel.

Post by LJC » Tue Jun 24, 2025 9:34 am

GBRF with a Class 66 locomotive.

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Re: Notam for Fuel.

Post by blackbird60 » Tue Jun 24, 2025 11:25 am

Double headed would do it

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Post by H.A.Bucken » Tue Jun 24, 2025 3:07 pm

TQ, LJC.
Roj.

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Re: Notam for Fuel.

Post by PIKAviationTours » Tue Jun 24, 2025 3:43 pm

Black Mike wrote:
Mon Jun 23, 2025 1:37 pm
The last time I was up, there were what I think were fuel wagons in the sidings near RW12 threshold.

Mike
The airport has a special fuel station on sidings next to the main Glasgow to Ayr line and it's from here that the fuel is pumped under the A77 directly into the storage tanks within the airport boundary. Quite a few engineers working on the equipment today when I passed.

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Re: Notam for Fuel.

Post by LJC » Tue Jun 24, 2025 5:30 pm

blackbird60 wrote:
Tue Jun 24, 2025 11:25 am
Double headed would do it
Train comes to Prestwick with a single Class 66 loco which can haul approx 2000 tonnes.

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