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Danny
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Re: NATO Future

Post by Danny » Wed Mar 05, 2025 1:21 pm

Sadly after all these years I think it's inevitable now that the USAF at Lakenheath and Mildenhall will be heading home. To Russia.

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Re: NATO Future

Post by Finty » Wed Mar 05, 2025 1:23 pm

Deramore wrote:
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Train spotting 😀

My goodness not having LN would be end of days !

It’s not that bad a hobby, yes it’s got sh*tter in recent years if you like BR locos and all that but as my profile pic shows, there’s still a few old timers running!

As for losing LN, it would be a bit of a broadside to the plane hobby. Hard to call it but I think there’s a greater chance of it staying open than closing.
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Re: NATO Future

Post by Nighthawke » Wed Mar 05, 2025 1:32 pm

I hope both stay as my daughter works at one and son-in-law the other.

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Re: NATO Future

Post by cat1 » Wed Mar 05, 2025 1:49 pm

No chance they close it from the US side.

they cant possibly justify closing an airbase then tell counties to up their defence spending because we would have just cause to say "well you aren't so why should we?"

And they offer 50% of the UKs defence network so no chance that parliament will be in a hurry to shut it.

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Re: NATO Future

Post by Nighthawke » Wed Mar 05, 2025 1:58 pm

Well I hope not.

Oh and not having a go but you have used "counties" several times but guess you mean "countries". Big difference :)

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Re: NATO Future

Post by Kurnass » Wed Mar 05, 2025 1:59 pm

cat1 wrote:
Wed Mar 05, 2025 1:49 pm
No chance they close it from the US side.

they cant possibly justify closing an airbase then tell counties to up their defence spending because we would have just cause to say "well you aren't so why should we?"

And they offer 50% of the UKs defence network so no chance that parliament will be in a hurry to shut it.
Never say “no chance” when Trump is involved. He would sell his wife if the price is right.

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Re: NATO Future

Post by cat1 » Wed Mar 05, 2025 2:10 pm

Ok, sorry.

I doubt

:D :ninja:

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Re: Ukraine in NATO

Post by cat1 » Wed Mar 05, 2025 3:16 pm

Nighthawke wrote:
Wed Mar 05, 2025 12:42 pm
How many Ukraine/Trump/NATO threads do we need? It's not rocket science to see existing threads and ask the question there!
Good day mods :)

Any chance you could action this?

Edit:

Many thanks :thumb:

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Re: NATO Future

Post by Thunder » Wed Mar 05, 2025 4:36 pm

[quote=cat1 post_id=1653776 time=1741182545 user_id=
And they offer 50% of the UKs defence network so no chance that parliament will be in a hurry to shut it.
[/quote]

Care to elaborate where the 50 % is?

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Re: NATO Future

Post by KevinJ » Wed Mar 05, 2025 4:41 pm

cat1 wrote:
Wed Mar 05, 2025 1:49 pm
No chance they close it from the US side.

they cant possibly justify closing an airbase then tell counties to up their defence spending because we would have just cause to say "well you aren't so why should we?"

And they offer 50% of the UKs defence network so no chance that parliament will be in a hurry to shut it.
Trump can do what he wants, nobody is arguing that America spend more on defence. He could easily relocate the 48th to CONUS if he feels it no longer needs to be forward based in Europe.

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Re: NATO Future

Post by NorvilleRogers » Wed Mar 05, 2025 4:41 pm

cat1 wrote:
Wed Mar 05, 2025 1:49 pm
No chance they close it from the US side.

they cant possibly justify closing an airbase then tell counties to up their defence spending because we would have just cause to say "well you aren't so why should we?"

And they offer 50% of the UKs defence network so no chance that parliament will be in a hurry to shut it.
Does the USAF provide any UK defense on a day to day basis? Certainly all QRA is done by the RAF.

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Re: NATO Future

Post by Snoop 95 » Wed Mar 05, 2025 4:48 pm

NorvilleRogers wrote:
Wed Mar 05, 2025 4:41 pm
cat1 wrote:
Wed Mar 05, 2025 1:49 pm
No chance they close it from the US side.

they cant possibly justify closing an airbase then tell counties to up their defence spending because we would have just cause to say "well you aren't so why should we?"

And they offer 50% of the UKs defence network so no chance that parliament will be in a hurry to shut it.
Does the USAF provide any UK defense on a day to day basis? Certainly all QRA is done by the RAF.
The USAF are not here to defend us per sei. They are here as members of NATO and, were we to be attacked, NATO leaders should call all members to come to our aid - including the USAF. That would of course, be a major conflict and would probably involve others were being attacked at the same time.

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Re: NATO Future

Post by Philly1971 » Wed Mar 05, 2025 8:43 pm

In history, The tango’d imbecile and unelected South African doos are around for 5 minutes. The same way they have reversed everything the previous regime has done, so will the next. So even if they withdrew from NATo or announced the closing of all European bases, by the time it was time to do it, no doubt the next president will just reverse it. It’s a two horse race, and whatever people think, the democrats will get back in, and no doubt will go about reversing everything the current regime are doing, just for spite, and with absolute glee.

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Re: NATO Future

Post by Nighthawke » Wed Mar 05, 2025 10:31 pm

The issue is that four years is a long time especially the speed the world is moving these days. Let's hope for a better future - or just a future!

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Re: Ukraine in NATO

Post by slogen51 » Thu Mar 06, 2025 6:34 am

cat1 wrote:
Wed Mar 05, 2025 3:16 pm
Nighthawke wrote:
Wed Mar 05, 2025 12:42 pm
How many Ukraine/Trump/NATO threads do we need? It's not rocket science to see existing threads and ask the question there!
Good day mods :)

Any chance you could action this?

Edit:

Many thanks :thumb:
Good morning

This issue is / can be discussed in general chat under the Trump thread

So unless there is anything specific can I suggest you direct any generalized comments to General chat (and please not Major Bunfight!)

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Re: NATO Future

Post by markranger » Thu Mar 06, 2025 8:57 am

I know its the daily fail but talk of Tranche 1
Typhoons being put back into service to bolster fleet.
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Re: NATO Future

Post by PR9 » Thu Mar 06, 2025 2:29 pm

Aren't most of them in bits?
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Re: NATO Future

Post by cat1 » Thu Mar 06, 2025 3:04 pm

time for some more frankenjets then....

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Re: NATO Future

Post by Thunder » Thu Mar 06, 2025 3:18 pm

Shame there’s no one to fly or maintain them, then you need somewhere to base them. All this talk of spending billions to increase and update is fine, but you’re looking at 10 years away before you see the benefits. Unfortunately once you lose capability you really do lose it.

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Re: NATO Future

Post by cat1 » Thu Mar 06, 2025 3:32 pm

Thunder wrote:
Thu Mar 06, 2025 3:18 pm
Shame there’s no one to fly or maintain them, then you need somewhere to base them. All this talk of spending billions to increase and update is fine, but you’re looking at 10 years away before you see the benefits. Unfortunately once you lose capability you really do lose it.
absolutely, and these days, a few billions may get you an avionics service max on a typhoon :'(

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