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Fassberg Tag der Bundeswehr 8th June 2024

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Fassberg Tag der Bundeswehr 8th June 2024

Post by merlinhunter » Mon Jun 10, 2024 2:49 pm

As I was in the area anyway for the Tiger meet at Schleswig, I thought I would give this open day a try. I wasn’t quite sure what to expect, but as it is a base where it is virtually impossible to see anything from the outside it seemed like a chance not to miss.

Static display
Tiger UHT 74+15
EC135T1 82+60
CH-47F D-605
AH-64E Q-39
CH-53G 84+14, 84+33, 84+37
A400M 54+05
Tornado 44+69 (special scheme)
H145M 77+01
NH90-TTH 79+05, 79+10, 79+30, 78+31, 78+38
There was also a French Tigre, but despite being able to walk all around and underneath it, I couldn’t see any sort of serial number anywhere. (Edit this was 2032 - thanks Kurnass)


Flying Display
This started with some fly-bys from EF2000T 30+20 from Laage which then landed and was towed into the static area. Then:
EC135T1 82+63
NH90-TTH 79+44
Tiger UHT 74+64
A400M 54+42
And proceedings concluded with a sort of assault demonstration a la Yeovilton which involved 74+64 again and:
NH90-TTH 78+25, 79+34, 79+35, 79+41
CH-53G 84+79

Peering through the windows of the hangar near the bus stops, I was able to identify two more NH90s, 78+04 and 79+17 and there were at least three others which I was told were 78+05, 78+12 and 78+24 although I wasn’t able to confirm these myself.

Mounted on a pole on the corner was Tiger 74+03.
The event was very well organised and great for families and kids. It proved very popular, helped no doubt by the lovely weather. I left at about 12.30 but there were still long queues of people waiting to get in.
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Re: Fassberg Tag der Bundeswehr 8th June 2024

Post by Kurnass » Mon Jun 10, 2024 3:22 pm

Your 78+03 was 78+05. Which is WFU.
The French Tigre was 2032, which is a written off airframe.

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Re: Fassberg Tag der Bundeswehr 8th June 2024

Post by merlinhunter » Mon Jun 10, 2024 6:05 pm

Kurnass wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2024 3:22 pm
Your 78+03 was 78+05. Which is WFU.
The French Tigre was 2032, which is a written off airframe.
Thanks for this

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Re: Fassberg Tag der Bundeswehr 8th June 2024

Post by Olly » Mon Jun 10, 2024 10:22 pm

On 2032, the guy looking after it told me it had a heavy landing in Afghanistan hence its now a GI frame.

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Re: Fassberg Tag der Bundeswehr 8th June 2024

Post by forzafil » Tue Jun 11, 2024 5:13 am

And proceedings concluded with a sort of assault demonstration a la Yeovilton which involved 74+64 again and:
NH90-TTH 79+25, 79+34, 79+35, 79+41

79+25 = 78+25

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Re: Fassberg Tag der Bundeswehr 8th June 2024

Post by merlinhunter » Tue Jun 11, 2024 6:43 am

forzafil wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2024 5:13 am
And proceedings concluded with a sort of assault demonstration a la Yeovilton which involved 74+64 again and:
NH90-TTH 79+25, 79+34, 79+35, 79+41

79+25 = 78+25
Corrected - thanks

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Re: Fassberg Tag der Bundeswehr 8th June 2024

Post by slogen51 » Thu Jun 13, 2024 7:45 pm

" Peering through the windows of the hangar near the bus stops, I was able to identify two more NH90s, 78+04 and 79+17 and there were at least three others which I was told were 78+05, 78+12 and 78+24 although I wasn’t able to confirm these myself."

We arrived at 12:30 having driven down from Hamburg - the afternoon A400M was 54+22 and P-3 60+03 displayed

The above Hangars by the bus stop in the afternoon had a piece of paper in the window which repeated or 'confirms' the five NH-90 serials in the left partition of the hangar ( hangar 8?)

Request - the right hand side of the partition also contained two NH-90 - scramble has a very detailed report for Fassberg but I can't work out if these two NH-90 are 78+19 and 78+34 mentioned for Halle 9

In other words were the hangars by the bus stop Halle 8 and Halle 9 ?

Thanks

( We missed Halle 10 which according to scramble contained 78+23 and 78+33 grrrrr )

I made 8/15 NH-90 that I have serials for so well pleased.

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Re: Fassberg Tag der Bundeswehr 8th June 2024

Post by Kurnass » Thu Jun 13, 2024 8:14 pm

No. Hangar 8 was the one behind the busstop, and had 5 NH90’s (as mentioned), and one NH90 training rig in the back.

4 NH90 nose towards the doors, one (78+05) and the training rig against the wall in the back of the hangar.

Hangar 9 was a separate hangar, of which the windows were covered. Through some cracks and gaps some NH90’s could partially be seen.

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Re: Fassberg Tag der Bundeswehr 8th June 2024

Post by slogen51 » Thu Jun 13, 2024 9:54 pm

Thanks

We looked in hangar 8 but to the right an adjoining Hangar under the same roof but separated by a wall contained a couple of NH-90

Was hangar 9 joined to hangar 8 also behind the bus stop or was hangar 9 separate and somewhere completely different?

In other words I suppose I am asking where was hangar 9 ?

Thanks

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Re: Fassberg Tag der Bundeswehr 8th June 2024

Post by Tangopapa » Fri Jun 14, 2024 3:22 am

It’s quite simple Mike. Hangars 8, 9/9a and 10 are all separate buildings forming three sides of a box at the end of the ramp. Hangar 8 was behind the bus departure points; hangars 9/9a run at right angles to this behind the entrance security checks (as stated, the hangars with the covered windows); hangar 10 then runs at a further right angle, so being opposite hangar 8 albeit with the ramp between them. Outside hangar 10 was the junior go-kart track and a display of fuel bowsers. For completeness, hangar 7 was beyond hangar 8, with The Tiger pole mounted outside. HTH.

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Re: Fassberg Tag der Bundeswehr 8th June 2024

Post by Ronny » Fri Jun 14, 2024 5:11 am

8 juni 2024:

Fassberg, 08.00 – 12.15 uur:

Preserved on base:
72+85                  UH-1D                                                
32+32                  G-91R/3                              ex Luftwaffe                       as "31+05"
74+03                  Tiger UHT                            ex Luftwaffe
‘315208’             C-47A                                   ex Turk.AF                          = 43-30729

Static:
2032                     Tigre HAP                            ALAT                                     GI, tail from PT2
74+15/SAG        Tiger UHT                                                                           GI
71+16                  UH-1D                                                                                 GI
82+60                  EC-135T1                            IHAz
D-HABR                 H.135T3                              IHAz
Q-39                     AH-64E                                301 sqn
D-605                   CH-47F                                298 sqn
78+31                  NH-90TTH                          THR 10
78+38                  NH-90TTH                          THR 10
79+05                  NH-90TTH                          THR 10
79+10                  NH-90TTH                          THR 10
79+30                  NH-90TTH                          IHAz
84+14                  CH-53GE                              HSG 64
84+37                  CH-53GS                             HSG 64
54+05                  A.400M                               LTG 62
77+01/SAR        H.145M                               THR 30
30+20                  EF.2000(T)                          TLG 73
44+69                  Tornado IDS                        TLG 51                                 Air Defender c/s
45+60                  Tornado IDS                       TLG 51                                 cock[pit only
37+10                  F-4F                                                                                      GI
RK+941/D-ELKS/91+74 P-149D civil
59+11                  Do-28D2                             RK Flugdienst                    also D-IRES
D-EFVP                 Cessna 206H                      Feuerwehr

Halle 12:
86+35/D-HELP Bo-105P1                                                                           GI
84+33                   CH-53GA                             HSG 64
MTR+1A              NH-90TTH                          moke up                              GI
87+15                  Bo-105P                                                                             GI, Ausbildungswerkstat Fassberg markings
87+81                  Bo-105P                                                                             GI
(43+41)                 Tornado IDS                                                                       GI 

Halle 10:
78+23                  NH-90TTH                          THR 10
78+33                  NH-90TTH                          THR 10

Halle 9A:
78+19                  NH-90TTH                          THR 10

Halle 8:
78+04                  NH-90TTH                          THR 10
78+05                  NH-90TTH                          THR 10
78+12                  NH-90TTH                          THR 10
78+24                  NH-90TTH                          THR 10
79+17                  NH-90TTH                          THR 10
MTR+2A              NH-90TTH                          THR 10                                 GI
Flying/elsewhere:
14+06                  Global 6000                       FBS
82+57                  EC-135T1                            IHAZ
82+63                  EC-135T1                            IHAz
D-HABT                 H.135T3                              IHAz
D-HABU               H.135T3                              IHAz
77+05/SAR        H.145M                               THR 30
54+42                  A.400M                               LTG 62
74+64                  Tiger UHT                            KHR 36
??                           Tiger UHT                           nn                                          GI/dump
84+79                  CH-53GS                             HSG 64
78+25                  NH-90TTH                          THR 10
79+34                  NH-90TTH                          THR 10
79+35                  NH-90TTH                          THR 10
79+41                  NH-90TTH                          THR 10
79+44                  NH-90TTH                          THR 10

 
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Re: Fassberg Tag der Bundeswehr 8th June 2024

Post by slogen51 » Fri Jun 14, 2024 5:27 am

Tangopapa wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2024 3:22 am
It’s quite simple Mike. Hangars 8, 9/9a and 10 are all separate buildings forming three sides of a box at the end of the ramp. Hangar 8 was behind the bus departure points; hangars 9/9a run at right angles to this behind the entrance security checks (as stated, the hangars with the covered windows); hangar 10 then runs at a further right angle, so being opposite hangar 8 albeit with the ramp between them. Outside hangar 10 was the junior go-kart track and a display of fuel bowsers. For completeness, hangar 7 was beyond hangar 8, with The Tiger pole mounted outside. HTH.
Thanks for that

Finally got it , sorry about that. We did look in hangar 8 where the list was posted but not hangar 9 ( i was hoping hangar 9 was an extension of hangar 8 as there appeared to be more than the 5 NH-90 that were listed on the window?)

As we were parking up in the park and ride at around midday two H-135 flew over - according to scramble they were D-HABT and D-HABU

Edit : according to Ronny above the hangar behind the bus stops with the list of five real NH-90 was hangar 10 :roll:

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Re: Fassberg Tag der Bundeswehr 8th June 2024

Post by Kurnass » Fri Jun 14, 2024 5:32 am

There really were only 5 NH90’s in that hangar 8. Plus one rig behind camouflage netting. Nothing more, nothing less.

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Re: Fassberg Tag der Bundeswehr 8th June 2024

Post by slogen51 » Fri Jun 14, 2024 5:35 am

Got it - thanks - we saw 15/18 possible NH-90

Moving on to the ILA log now :D

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Re: Fassberg Tag der Bundeswehr 8th June 2024

Post by sjoerd » Fri Jun 14, 2024 7:01 am

Kurnass wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2024 5:32 am
There really were only 5 NH90’s in that hangar 8. Plus one rig behind camouflage netting. Nothing more, nothing less.
I dissagree. Hangar 8 contained 7 NH90's. In the left (main) part were 6 NH90's. 4 nose towards the doors and 2 in the back facing west. Those 2 were 78+05 (no serial worn, wfu, and used as a training rig nowadays) as well as MTR+1B (bare metal, behind some netting). In the right part another NH90 fuselage could be found facing west, which is also a training rig with serial MTR+02. These three could not be read by us, but were provided by local mechanics.

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Re: Fassberg Tag der Bundeswehr 8th June 2024

Post by Kurnass » Fri Jun 14, 2024 8:45 am

Well, in my humble opinion training rigs are not NH90’s. NH90’s can fly (unless wfu), where as training rigs are just that. A rig, resembling a helicopter.
So, 5 NH-90 (of which 78+05 wfu), and two training rigs.

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Re: Fassberg Tag der Bundeswehr 8th June 2024

Post by sjoerd » Fri Jun 14, 2024 5:09 pm

Don't get me wrong, I can fully understand you and it's up to anyone how they deal with this! But from a distance and through some mirroring windows one cannot easily identify a real one from a rig. Hence my remark and additional mentioning of positions.

Also good to add, those rigs are the real deal. The frames come from the NHI/Airbus helicopters assembly line minus hydraulics/avionics/some specific hardware components, pending the use of the rig. This was cheaper than creating a rig from scratch as well as cheaper then buying the whole thing and canabalizing it.

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