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Post by gamecock » Thu Dec 03, 2015 2:23 pm

Live footage on Sky and BBC news of the Typhoons arriving at Akrotiri.

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Post by welshandy » Thu Dec 03, 2015 2:32 pm

On our local Facebook page. Lots of people Tory bashing, saying that we are now bombing innocent people.

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Post by The Phantom » Thu Dec 03, 2015 3:02 pm

welshandy wrote:On our local Facebook page. Lots of people Tory bashing, saying that we are now bombing innocent people.
I don't know why the Labour supporters/anti-war protestors have to keep on with this. We are not at war with Syria! We are not dropping bombs on innocent people!
The RAF are carrying out precision strikes on IS forces with very expensive laser guided weapons that give fantastic accuracy.

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Post by Vulcanone » Thu Dec 03, 2015 3:07 pm

Rather a large amount of people probably think we are just carpet bombing Syria. But then most on here know we aren't.

I suspect it doesn't matter what country we are bombing, be it Iraq or Syria or any other country out there. I wouldn't be surprised if we are still on the ISIS list regardless.

When will some people grasp they absolutely do not care for anyone but themselves and the ideals they try and impose on everyone else. And for the idiot in Labour whom let Gerry Adams into parliament shortly after the Brighton bombing to sit up and say oh this is not right - Hmm :ninja:

Essentially - Damned if you do Damned if you don't

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Post by rva65 » Thu Dec 03, 2015 3:58 pm

I very much doubt there are any civilised, decent, moderate, innocent civilian Syrians left by now in the parts controlled by Isis, Isil, Daesh or whatever they are calling themselves, they are either probably deceased or no longer in Syria! I believe myself that the more Countries taking part in destroying these murdering terrorist thugs the better, and precision air strikes are our forte, good luck to all the crews and ground staff involved, my thoughts and prayers are with you all, God speed on your missions.

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Post by EGDR » Thu Dec 03, 2015 4:04 pm

The Phantom wrote: I don't know why the Labour supporters/anti-war protestors have to keep on with this.
Don't tar us all with the same brush ;)

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Post by The Phantom » Thu Dec 03, 2015 4:15 pm

Vulcanone wrote: When will some people grasp they absolutely do not care for anyone but themselves and the ideals they try and impose on everyone else. And for the idiot in Labour whom let Gerry Adams into parliament shortly after the Brighton bombing to sit up and say oh this is not right - Hmm :ninja:
Just been looking at that online - unbelievable. What is it about the far left that they always have to support foreign terror groups?!
I saw on the BBC before about how Corbyn used to send letters of support to convicted IRA terrorists in the 1970s. I suppose nowadays he sends letters of support to convicted Islamic terrorists! :roll:

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Post by paddyboy » Thu Dec 03, 2015 4:33 pm

Well said, The Phantom ;)

Corbyn is a far left wing dinosaur, and we all know what happened to them: it will happen to him sooner than he thinks :lol:
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Post by TankBuster » Thu Dec 03, 2015 4:44 pm

I get really cross with some people I know, they're getting all happy clappy saying that we shouldn't bomb Syria because we'll kill many innocent people and that ISIS will launch terror attacks on the UK.

I seem to pop a few veins and send smoke out of my ears when I hear that nonsense :grr: . Firstly I point out that our aircraft have been flying into Iraq to hit ISIS targets, and at the same time point out that the complainers never batted an eyelid to that going on did they! Also, its a fact that our forces have been engaged in various conflicts around the globe for years, so going into Syrian airspace is just another day in the office for our aircrews.

Also, all this talk of us killing innocent civilians is complete garbage, ISIS are doing that anyway, so what do the happy clappies expect us to do? Let ISIS get on with it, or do we get in there and sort them out... what is it to be???

And, I take great pleasure in informing the complainers that the RAF are using high precision weapons, which are so accurate that the risk to civilian casualties is extremely low indeed. Not to mention that the RAF are not taking this on alone, as we are part of a bigger force involving some 18 countries (my last count).

I wish these happy clappy tree hugging loonies would really see the bigger picture, and understand that to do nothing isn't really an option!!!


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Post by Blackcat1 » Thu Dec 03, 2015 5:09 pm

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Post by deerhunter » Thu Dec 03, 2015 5:54 pm

Corbyn is a far left wing dinosaur, and we all know what happened to them: it will happen to him sooner than he thinks
Well said Paddy,

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Post by ChrisCwmbran » Thu Dec 03, 2015 6:06 pm

paddyboy wrote:Corbyn is a far left wing dinosaur, and we all know what happened to them: it will happen to him sooner than he thinks :lol:
What makes me laugh is the fact he wants to negotiate with them. When someone's position is that you join their religion or you die there isn't much middle ground to agree on.

Perhaps Mr Corbyn would like to visit Syria and negotiate with them in person on behalf of the people of the UK? I think the only question would be which form of execution they would choose to use....

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Post by TankBuster » Thu Dec 03, 2015 6:53 pm

Cornish-guy wrote:
TankBuster wrote:I get really cross with some people I know, they're getting all happy clappy saying that we shouldn't bomb Syria because we'll kill many innocent people and that ISIS will launch terror attacks on the UK.

I seem to pop a few veins and send smoke out of my ears when I hear that nonsense :grr: . Firstly I point out that our aircraft have been flying into Iraq to hit ISIS targets, and at the same time point out that the complainers never batted an eyelid to that going on did they! Also, its a fact that our forces have been engaged in various conflicts around the globe for years, so going into Syrian airspace is just another day in the office for our aircrews.

Also, all this talk of us killing innocent civilians is complete garbage, ISIS are doing that anyway, so what do the happy clappies expect us to do? Let ISIS get on with it, or do we get in there and sort them out... what is it to be???

And, I take great pleasure in informing the complainers that the RAF are using high precision weapons, which are so accurate that the risk to civilian casualties is extremely low indeed. Not to mention that the RAF are not taking this on alone, as we are part of a bigger force involving some 18 countries (my last count).

I wish these happy clappy tree hugging loonies would really see the bigger picture, and understand that to do nothing isn't really an option!!!


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Post by C24 » Thu Dec 03, 2015 7:33 pm

I heard a report that" ...with Britain's increased assets, they will be contributing less than 8% of the total from 45 countries actually operating in the arena".

The news coverage is almost total, they, the media, do not yet publish the routes and targets of our people in real time.
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Post by The Phantom » Thu Dec 03, 2015 8:44 pm

Cornish-guy wrote: I just get really really annoyed when I hear that mentioned as a slagging off term used of people who just want peace
These lefties who just want peace and blame the UK for everything, why don't they go out to Syria and sit and chat with ISIS and ask them for peace - as they're the ones causing the trouble. Ask them to stop killing the people of Syria (who have had to flee their country in terror), and to stop carrying out barbaric acts of terrorism in Europe.
And then if they organise this peace with ISIS great: the RAF can come back home, and all the other air forces can go back to their respective countries.

Though of course it could be that within 5 minutes of sitting down with ISIS they just get their throats cut!

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Post by welshandy » Fri Dec 04, 2015 8:35 am

[quote="Benn came out as a statesman....next leader ?[/quote]

I agree too great speech.

Thought of putting this on our local facebook page http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-34973203 (what is a Brimstone Missile) ;)

Couple of points of interest though.
1st Currently, the countries carrying out strikes on Syria don't have the capability of launching missiles from fast jets. Maverick??

2nd The RAF is planning to convert Typhoon F2 jets to be able to carry Brimstones, with the Tornado fleet due to be retired in 2019.

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Post by Thunder » Fri Dec 04, 2015 9:50 am

welshandy wrote: 1st Currently, the countries carrying out strikes on Syria don't have the capability of launching missiles from fast jets. Maverick??

2nd The RAF is planning to convert Typhoon F2 jets to be able to carry Brimstones, with the Tornado fleet due to be retired in 2019.
Are you asking a question above or quoting from somewhere?

The USAF, Moroccan, Bahraini, Canadian, Turkey, UAE, Australian and Jordanian all have the capability to use AGM-65, whether or not they are I don't know .

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Post by welshandy » Fri Dec 04, 2015 10:06 am

Thunder wrote:
welshandy wrote: 1st Currently, the countries carrying out strikes on Syria don't have the capability of launching missiles from fast jets. Maverick??

2nd The RAF is planning to convert Typhoon F2 jets to be able to carry Brimstones, with the Tornado fleet due to be retired in 2019.
Are you asking a question above or quoting from somewhere?

The USAF, Moroccan, Bahraini, Canadian, Turkey, UAE, Australian and Jordanian all have the capability to use AGM-65, whether or not they are I don't know .
They are in the article from the BBC. I was pointing out that the BBC had, I thought had got it's facts wrong with regards to the capability of the jets out there(ie 48th FW F15E's Maverick capable). I also thought all RAF Typhoons(single seat) were now FGR4's or have I got that wrong?

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Post by Thunder » Fri Dec 04, 2015 12:08 pm

I've never seen a F-15E carrying a AGM-65 although I dare say it could deploy it. On the Typhoon front you are quite correct in that all F2/T1 are now upgraded to FGR4/T3 status.

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Post by jingernut » Fri Dec 04, 2015 1:56 pm

Not kept up with a lot of the Syria news myself but I read that there have been over 3,000 air strikes since September 2014 in the area.

Yet with all of those bombs falling they still managed to plan and execute the Paris attacks. Do people really think if we just keep dropping bombs on them it's going to stop them?

And how are weapons like Brimstone going to help matters when as far as I have read, ISIL are embedded in the communities in tunnels?

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