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Summer Deployments

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Andrew45
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Re: Summer Deployments

Post by Andrew45 » Fri May 27, 2016 9:30 am

Last year the B52's didn't turn up until the 5th June... Still over a week away..
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Re: Summer Deployments

Post by stealth1234 » Fri May 27, 2016 9:31 am

When so we think we will see some arrivals then ? This weekend ?
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Re: Summer Deployments

Post by Malcolm » Fri May 27, 2016 10:19 am

Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish....

My thinking is along these lines.

For something to arrive at FFD at around midnight Monday/Tuesday, it would have to depart from wherever 8 or 9 hours earlier - so something like 16:00Z on 30th May. 30th May is a US bank holiday (Memorial day) so most bases will be closed. Therefore, they are likely to need to NOTAM them open (unless it's considered OAT which I doubt this is).

If the rumors are right about it being Minot, then given M0349/16 nothing is likely to leave there before Saturday night (so earliest arrival Sunday morning).

M0401/16 says Whiteman is shut for the midnight arrival window, so not from there, although there are two 'open windows' - one tonight (M0408/16) which would arrive early Saturday morning, and another Saturday afternoon (M0400/16) which would arrive in the early hours of Sunday morning. These might be nothing to do with Fairford though.

Barksdale (M0299/16) and Dyess (M0329/16) are NOTAMed shut till 31st May, so not from there. Ellsworth - nothing posted, so probably normal op hours and will be shut till 12:00Z on 31st.

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Re: Summer Deployments

Post by scousefowler » Sat May 28, 2016 6:29 am

MINOT

M0349/16 - AERODROME CLOSED. 26 MAY 19:00 2016 UNTIL 28 MAY 19:00 2016. CREATED: 26 MAY
19:00 2016

Looking poss from MINOT then.....

And still the 1.5 hour window at Whiteman (B2) for 1500 - 1630 L which is 5 hours behind us.....

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Re: Summer Deployments

Post by StormsInAfrica » Sat May 28, 2016 8:31 am

Picture this. Bombers turn up in the window discussed. Quiet waiver to get 2 C-5's in with all the rest of the kit and pax.

Why else would you need a quiet waiver?

They could have brought that stuff over at any point last week. Could the bomber timings be set in stone because of the holiday with the support racing to catch up overnight on the 30th and 31st?

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Re: Summer Deployments

Post by Pune » Sat May 28, 2016 9:10 am

We'll see when it happens I guess!!
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Re: Summer Deployments

Post by page_verify » Sat May 28, 2016 11:12 am

I'd be tempted to suggest that the quiet hours waiver means nothing more than an aircraft movement will happen then - big or small, in or out - rather than a special movement is being saved for the middle of the night. The military operates 24/7, so if the duty hours day and the local time zone mean something that could happen at 3pm can actually happen at 3am and get the pilot/aircraft/kit somewhere else sooner, then the Fairford world in the last five years seems to be happy with that.

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Re: Summer Deployments

Post by Malcolm » Sat May 28, 2016 5:47 pm

New one for Minot

M0350/16 - AERODROME HOURS OF SERVICE ARE. 28 MAY 19:00 2016 UNTIL 28 MAY 21:00 2016. CREATED: 28 MAY 17:23 2016

Implies something in or out of Minot within the next 3 hours, so if FFD related would indicate an arrival in the early hours of Sunday UK time.

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Re: Summer Deployments

Post by scousefowler » Sat May 28, 2016 6:41 pm

Anyone had eyes on FFD today?? Increased activity ect?
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Re: Summer Deployments

Post by scousefowler » Sat May 28, 2016 7:01 pm

I reckon same as last year, B52`s for a couple of weeks and B2`s doing there hop across the pond with hot refuel ect ect.. :thumbs:

Just B2`s maybe timed better so its not such a show lol
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Re: Summer Deployments

Post by StormsInAfrica » Sat May 28, 2016 9:04 pm

C-5 airborne at this time RCH640

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Re: Summer Deployments

Post by StormsInAfrica » Sat May 28, 2016 9:12 pm

Over Illinois last checked. NOTAM now taken down at Minot.

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Re: Summer Deployments

Post by StormsInAfrica » Sat May 28, 2016 9:23 pm

Yeah, just looks like the one Galaxy heading over. Arriving 0600L-0800L tomorrow morning.

See if I can get a look at what they pull off.

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Re: Summer Deployments

Post by rh226 » Sat May 28, 2016 9:34 pm

RCH640 is C-5B 87-0041 [AE0586] for those who might need it - if that is coming to Fairford.

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Re: Summer Deployments

Post by mushbuster » Sat May 28, 2016 10:39 pm

StormsInAfrica wrote:Yeah, just looks like the one Galaxy heading over. Arriving 0600L-0800L tomorrow morning.

See if I can get a look at what they pull off.
Storm, where does it say RCH640 is headed to Fairford? Also Minot-Fairford AMC traffic is most likely over Canada, Greenland and Iceland down the west coast if it is headed in one hop. BTW there is an Atlas 747 N499MC headed our way from McGuire (call sign GTI8572) but I would put money that sailing straight over the UK to Germany (probably the same destination for RCH640 IMHO).

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Re: Summer Deployments

Post by Malcolm » Sat May 28, 2016 10:49 pm

23:45L RCH640 is descending through FL135 over New York state somewhere. If it's a Westover based machine its probably going into there. When first picked up it was at FL390 which is very high for so early in it's flight.

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Re: Summer Deployments

Post by StormsInAfrica » Sat May 28, 2016 10:51 pm

Yep, we were just discussing this on FB. It's going hard at Massa (where it is based). Alternativwly it could be Mildenhall or Ramstein. Given that it came from Westover and not Minot, this may not be our player.

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Re: Summer Deployments

Post by Andrew45 » Sat May 28, 2016 10:53 pm

Atlas Air going to Hahn, over Swansea at 37000 right now.

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Re: Summer Deployments

Post by Lordhintonlewis » Sun May 29, 2016 6:31 pm

Rch199 possible inbound to FFD ?

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Re: Summer Deployments

Post by Lordhintonlewis » Sun May 29, 2016 6:35 pm

FFD quite waver we are due some c17/c5 if anything from the last year is simular and this one is heading east , I did put a question mark as a possibility even if it is weak [WINKING FACE]

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