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Burma Spitfires

Post by Apollo » Thu Oct 18, 2012 7:02 am

Getting closer :thumb: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/oc ... excavation" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Burma Spitfires

Post by vulcan71 » Thu Oct 18, 2012 10:24 am

Fantastic news ,lets hope for a good outcome. :thumbs:

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Re: Burma Spitfires

Post by Rory » Thu Oct 18, 2012 10:52 am

This is incredible! Lets hope they are all in good nic.

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Re: Burma Spitfires

Post by Firefighter » Thu Oct 18, 2012 2:00 pm

Rumour is that there are Spitfire engines, parts, etc. some still in crates, buried on Colerne, along with bits and pieces from other aircraft.

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Re: Burma Spitfires

Post by nickowen » Thu Oct 18, 2012 2:18 pm

There are similar rumours concerning Merlins buried at a site near Derby.

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Re: Burma Spitfires

Post by Sparts99 » Thu Oct 18, 2012 5:22 pm

There are loads of rumours of buried planes all over the country. The ones I've heard include crates of Packard Merlins under the Biggin Hill VOR, more of the same under an industrial unit next to the A4 at Brentford, Lancaster fuselages and Typhoons near Kemble, and further afield, Mk22/24 Spitifres in Syria, crated, with spare Griffons. If those Burma stories are right, unloading 60 restorable MkXIV Spitfires into the warbird market will be interesting. Even half that number will make a huge difference to the value of the existing ones.
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Re: Burma Spitfires

Post by paullangford » Sun Oct 28, 2012 6:16 pm

Apologies if this has already been posted, but here's the man with the money behind it all;

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/9638613 ... Burma.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Burma Spitfires

Post by Ghastly Whisper » Sun Oct 28, 2012 10:30 pm

Sparts99 wrote: unloading 60 restorable MkXIV Spitfires into the warbird market will be interesting. Even half that number will make a huge difference to the value of the existing ones.
I doubt they will hit the warbird market all at once, a very slow trickle is more like it to keep prices up, it just doesnt make sence to flood the market.

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Re: Burma Spitfires

Post by Sparts99 » Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:32 am

No doubt they will trickle out but companies like Airframe Assemblies will probably set up for producing spares and replacement major assemblies on a production line basis, cost will drop. Inevitably once they start appearing and the number of potentially airworthy airframes becomes clearer prices will be affected. From what I can gather the number of reasonably intact airframes is very hard to predict, but, as long as a fair chunk can be found with a data plate then anything's possible, go back to my first sentence. Someone I spoke to recently who is in a position to know said that the number of airframes could be much much higher than being speculated at present.
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Re: Burma Spitfires

Post by willow70 » Mon Oct 29, 2012 1:56 pm

I just don't believe this story, they may find a few rusty engine blocks and some spitfire shaped aluminum oxide.

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Re: Burma Spitfires

Post by Richard B » Mon Oct 29, 2012 2:12 pm

willow70 wrote:I just don't believe this story, they may find a few rusty engine blocks and some spitfire shaped aluminum oxide.
About all I think they will find, number plates will be the big goal,
Cannot see all those crates being put in the ground,
most I believe would have been used for shelter and fire wood to keep the personal there warm and dry. sod the damp wet tents,
got some nice wooden sheds here and plenty of fire wood to keep and warm.

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Re: Burma Spitfires

Post by SteveS » Mon Oct 29, 2012 5:34 pm

It does all sound a bit far fetched doesn't it? Still, good luck to them, hope it does all work out.

There are loads of rumours of buried aircraft parts all over the place, last one I saw was a load of B-17 parts and USAAF jeeps being buried in a hole at Thorpe Abbotts in Suffolk, of course no-one has ever found them. Similar stories of Spitfire bits being buried under the landing ground for the Castle Bromwich plant at the end of the war.

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Re: Burma Spitfires

Post by Sparts99 » Mon Oct 29, 2012 6:26 pm

Yes if the crates were used then not a lot will remain. There was a case of three Lancasters (in Norfolk I think ?) being located by underground radar, wings detached and up against the side of the fuselage. A test hole was dug and Lancaster shaped cavities were found as the airframes had corroded to dust. I think the story here is that after delivery, the Spitfires in Burma were never assembled, and were buried in the crates, still inhibited as sea freight, but as ever with these things there is lots of speculation and as someone has said above, believe it when you see it. I really hope they are there and a good number can be restored to fly.
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Re: Burma Spitfires

Post by Richard B » Sun Nov 25, 2012 9:28 pm

Just seen a post over on Key forums that they have found some spits, supposed to be in great condition with only rubber parts that have perished.
proper conformation and images still to be released, thou it does sound promising.http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?t=120778" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Burma Spitfires

Post by SteveS » Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:22 am

Hmmmm, as they say on the internet, "Pics, or it didn't happen"!

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Re: Burma Spitfires

Post by quid21 » Mon Nov 26, 2012 4:42 pm

Contrary to the post on the key forum website, wouldn't the Spitfires still be the property of Her Majesty's Government even if they were effectively disposed?

In the same way that the Navy I think 'owns' military ship wrecks and any treasure hunters have to seek permission to obtain parts thereof?

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Re: Burma Spitfires

Post by Flyingmonster » Mon Nov 26, 2012 5:20 pm

SteveS wrote:Hmmmm, as they say on the internet, "Pics, or it didn't happen"!

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Re: Burma Spitfires

Post by SteveS » Mon Nov 26, 2012 5:54 pm

...and digging sideways under an active runway? Really???

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Re: Burma Spitfires

Post by 22A » Mon Nov 26, 2012 7:13 pm

quid21 wrote:In the same way that the Navy I think 'owns' military ship wrecks and any treasure hunters have to seek permission to obtain parts thereof?
Some of those are classified as "War graves", hence the restrictions.

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Re: Burma Spitfires

Post by quid21 » Tue Nov 27, 2012 2:29 pm

22A wrote:
quid21 wrote:In the same way that the Navy I think 'owns' military ship wrecks and any treasure hunters have to seek permission to obtain parts thereof?
Some of those are classified as "War graves", hence the restrictions.
So does that mean that if I dug up a crate containing a Spitfire it wouldn't still belong to the UK government due to it being put in some kind of crate for storage so I could then sell it on eBay and live happily ever after?!!

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