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Rotörhead
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by Rotörhead » Thu Apr 05, 2012 11:00 am
Sorry if this has already been covered, but this popped up on Facebook this morning...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... skies.html
RAF bosses have suspended low-level training flights over mid-Wales to avoid ruffling the feathers of a pair of nesting ospreys.
The Tactical Training Area in Montgomeryshire near Newtown is one of three sites in Britain where pilots can fly as low as 100ft.
Last summer a pair of ospreys called Monty and Nora – the only mating pair in Wales – hatched a brood of chicks for the first time in a century.
The Ministry of Defence has imposed a 500ft lower limit on aircraft in the area until September to avoid disturbing the birds.
Read more:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z1rA9E8xSH" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Blackcat1
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by Blackcat1 » Thu Apr 05, 2012 11:06 am
Interesting! thanks for posting.
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XPLUMBER
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by XPLUMBER » Thu Apr 05, 2012 11:40 am
Olicat wrote:Last summer a pair of ospreys called Monty and Nora – the only mating pair in Wales – hatched a brood of chicks for the first time in a century.
I had no idea Ospreys lived that long!

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by steve149c » Thu Apr 05, 2012 11:58 am
Thanks for posting! Lets hope the Ospreys do well - a real sight!
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Blackcat1
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by Blackcat1 » Thu Apr 05, 2012 12:04 pm
Beautiful bird , more beautiful than a Typhoon! ;-) lol
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Rotörhead
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by Rotörhead » Thu Apr 05, 2012 12:59 pm
Im wondering if this means we'll see increased low flying in other LFAs

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pj1
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by pj1 » Thu Apr 05, 2012 1:06 pm
Excuse my ignorence, but does this mean that there will be no really low flying in the whole of wales until Septmeber, for instance the loop.
I have never been to the loop but was thinking of giving it a go this year.
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welshandy
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by welshandy » Thu Apr 05, 2012 1:11 pm
I'm only 6 miles from Newtown and so far today have had 3 F15's & 2 Hawks low level so not taking much notice

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Rotörhead
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by Rotörhead » Thu Apr 05, 2012 1:12 pm
Very odd
Bad attempt at April fools?
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welshandy
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by welshandy » Thu Apr 05, 2012 1:18 pm
just read the report in full. I think it's refering to the birds that were nesting in the Dyfi valley near Machynlleth which is a good 30 miles west of Newtown

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steve149c
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by steve149c » Thu Apr 05, 2012 1:30 pm
Hi All,
Been doing some digging,
http://www.rspb.org.uk/news/309960-they ... ninth-year" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
This is near Porthmadog - so it is a 15 miles northwest of the loop & Dollegau - a few jets do fly low down this valley, but it is not as common as the loop!
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by Snoop 95 » Thu Apr 05, 2012 3:47 pm
I hadn't realized that the Ospreys had even arrived in the UK. Thought the SOG at Mildenhall weren't getting them until much later this year and certainly more than one pair!
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by LightningGoose » Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:21 pm
welshandy wrote:I'm only 6 miles from Newtown and so far today have had 3 F15's & 2 Hawks low level so not taking much notice

The Ministry of Defence has imposed a 500ft lower limit on aircraft in the area until September to avoid disturbing the birds.

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by Reptile 1 » Thu Apr 05, 2012 7:28 pm
steve149c wrote:Hi All,
Been doing some digging,
http://www.rspb.org.uk/news/309960-they ... ninth-year" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
This is near Porthmadog - so it is a 15 miles northwest of the loop & Dollegau - a few jets do fly low down this valley, but it is not as common as the loop!
Steve you are wrong, there are 2 nest 1 in Porthmadog the other near Machynlleth
http://www.dyfiospreyproject.com/home" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Exclusion zone should be no more than 2 miles and above 500ft
Meaning this will have 'NO' affect on the Loop
Dyfi Exclusion Zone by
kestrelxx330, on Flickr
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pj1
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by pj1 » Thu Apr 05, 2012 7:56 pm
Thanks Reptile 1 for clearing that up. I will come to the hills after all.
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Blackcat1
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by Blackcat1 » Thu Apr 05, 2012 8:02 pm
And what a great spot the Cross Foxes is to site back with a cup of coffee on the terrace or something stronger (if not driving lol) and just watch the aircraft go by! ;-)
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by flyingslug_0 » Thu Apr 12, 2012 8:58 pm
andy151 wrote:Hi, I'm heading over to north wales tomorrow, has there been much flying in the loop ?? cheers Andy
Two weeks ago the loop had 98 movements, so far this week its been a bit quiet, today they had a few Hawks, a Typhoon and a couple of Tornadoes, then a couple more Tornadoes later on in the evening. I'm going next week for 10 days, we are staying at Portmadog so hope to see plenty of Jets plus the ospreys

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by Andyph » Sat Apr 14, 2012 11:52 pm
flyingslug_0 wrote:andy151 wrote:Hi, I'm heading over to north wales tomorrow, has there been much flying in the loop ?? cheers Andy
Two weeks ago the loop had 98 movements, so far this week its been a bit quiet, today they had a few Hawks, a Typhoon and a couple of Tornadoes, then a couple more Tornadoes later on in the evening. I'm going next week for 10 days, we are staying at Portmadog so hope to see plenty of Jets plus the ospreys

98 movements in a week! when was the last time that happened? sound like levels I remember back in the 90s? What were they?
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