Turkey to buy 48 Eurofighter Typhoon

[Ashleydaplanespotter]

Not sure if it's a bluff just came across an article on Facebook about Turkey apparently purchasing 48 Typhoons

[Starbuck]

Aren't Turkey developing their own next gen fighter after being thrown out of the F-35 program?

Looking at the list of Turkish AF kit it shows 243 active F-16s and 48 active F-4s so even personally being sceptical about this story being true it could be a straight swap for the F-4s.

[Doughnut]

Is there still an embargo on American kit ? If true would make sense they buy two seat Typhoon to the same specification as the new German aircraft.

Starbuck. If it is a straight swap for the F-4 the RAF could send them 48 Typhoon and we could have the Phantoms at Coningsby. LOL

[Ghastly Whisper]

yea, its only if they can not buy more F-16s

https://www.janes.com/defence-news/news ... alks-stall

Turkey has, for the first time, officially pronounced a possible purchase of Eurofighter Typhoons in case if the United States fails to sell Lockheed Martin F-16 Fighting Falcons.

İbrahim Kalın, Turkey's presidential spokesperson, confirmed the previously reported plan, telling local NTV news channel on 23 September, “We have negotiations with Europe regarding […] Eurofighter […] Turkey will never be without alternatives.”

Turkey made a request to the United States for 40 F-16 fighters and nearly 80 modernisation kits for its existing warplanes in October 2021.

The US administration warmed to the sale of the fighters to Turkey, Kalın said, as the Joe Biden administration in June threw its support behind the potential sale after Ankara lifted a veto of NATO membership for Finland and Sweden.

However, a condition set out by the US House of Representatives in July 2022 to ensure that F-16 jets sold to Ankara are not used to violate Greek airspace has been rejected by Turkey.

Before Kalın's comment on the Eurofighter, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan said that if the United States did not sell F-16 fighter jets to Turkey, Ankara would be able to procure warplanes from other countries.

“Britain sells, France sells them, Russia sells them. It is possible to obtain them from everywhere,” he said in early September 2022.

[21zebra]

SoloTurk with a Typhoon

[Ravendriver2008]

Aren't Turkey developing their own next gen fighter after being thrown out of the F-35 program?

Looking at the list of Turkish AF kit it shows 243 active F-16s and 48 active F-4s so even personally being sceptical about this story being true it could be a straight swap for the F-4s.

Its called the TF or Turkish Fighter for short

https://www.tusas.com/en/products/new-p ... lopment/tf

I saw the ock up when it was unveiled at Paris Air Show 2019 and again last year at Farnborough air show

cheers

[Supra]

Thanks for the Link Ravendriver2008. That release sure as hell looks like a bad 'Artist Representation' of an F-22 ? BUT hey!... they can't buy those either.

[Richard B]

The US airforce will have plenty of F16s surplus with the F35 replacement program.
Can be sure the USA will bow to Turkey to offload
F16 for them, after sales for spares and upgrade kits is to much of a deal to lose.

[gamecock]

Interesting...

https://bulgarianmilitary.com/2024/11/1 ... e_vignette

[quid21]

I'm suprised, don't the Turks buy from the Russians these days

Surprised they are still in NATO.

[Thunder]

Only thing I can think of that Turkey bought from Russia was the S400 SAM system, but Greece bought the S300 and SA-8 Oska. Don’t think many major powers would buy from Russia nowadays, not only because of the embargo but the unreliable follow on support.

[RubyRoo]

Do we know if construction for these would be happening at Warton?

All the major operators are already purchasing more. I think it would be a shame for the UK not to put in a small Tranche 4 order for themselves, especially to cover the imminent withdrawal of all the Tranche 1s.

[quid21]

Only thing I can think of that Turkey bought from Russia was the S400 SAM system, but Greece bought the S300 and SA-8 Oska. Don’t think many major powers would buy from Russia nowadays, not only because of the embargo but the unreliable follow on support.

Agreed, but they also don't always follow the other NATO countries in condemnation of world events. They were alos being used a s a re-routing point for Russian fuel entering the EU which goes against all sorts of sanctions.

[Thunder]

Maybe, but the EU were only too happy to allow it therefore breaking their own sanctions, so who’s the one in the wrong.

[quid21]

Maybe, but the EU were only too happy to allow it therefore breaking their own sanctions, so who’s the one in the wrong.

Everyone

[Enobob]

Do we know if construction for these would be happening at Warton?

All the major operators are already purchasing more. I think it would be a shame for the UK not to put in a small Tranche 4 order for themselves, especially to cover the imminent withdrawal of all the Tranche 1s.

Around 40% of each and every Typhoon is built in the UK, some at Warton but mainly at Samlesbury. Final assembly ia carried out in Germany, Italy, Spain and at Warton in the UK. I have seen reports that the Turkish a/c would be assembled at Warton owing to German sensitivity and Italian and Spanish lines being busy with their own additional orders.

[sschofield]

Only thing I can think of that Turkey bought from Russia was the S400 SAM system, but Greece bought the S300 and SA-8 Oska. Don’t think many major powers would buy from Russia nowadays, not only because of the embargo but the unreliable follow on support.

The Turkish purchase of the S400 system was what caused the US to remove them from the F-35 programme and refuse to deliver the jets they already had built, such was the sensitivity of the deal!

[Crusty]

IF not alrady a done deal then Trump will sign the deal, Turkey will get its F16s

[Alf]

IF not alrady a done deal then Trump will sign the deal, Turkey will get its F16s

Turkey signed the new build F-16 deal with the US last June.

https://thedefensepost.com/2024/06/13/t ... -f16-deal/

[Crusty]

IF not alrady a done deal then Trump will sign the deal, Turkey will get its F16s

Turkey signed the new build F-16 deal with the US last June.

https://thedefensepost.com/2024/06/13/t ... -f16-deal/

Thanks, It was always extremely unlikely that they would be refused, even more unlikely that they would get Typhoons instead