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Middle East tensions increase

Post by Thunder » Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:59 am

US Navy MQ-4 Triton shot down by Iranian forces.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-48700965


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Re: Middle East tensions increase

Post by MRTT » Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:22 am

Key word is "postponed".

Worrying, very worrying.

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Re: Middle East tensions increase

Post by Sparts99 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:26 am

Sabre rattling maybe, a warning that the capability and will is there to act aggressively if pushed further? Iran must know it can't withstand a seriouis assault by the US.
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Re: Middle East tensions increase

Post by Typeflyer » Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:33 am

Now we know where the latest batch of SJ F-15E were headed

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Re: Middle East tensions increase

Post by benno » Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:03 am

Intelligence gathering exercise?


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Re: Middle East tensions increase

Post by big john » Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:27 pm

The FAA have issued a Notam banning US registered aircraft from flying in the Gulf region.

A0019/19 (Issued for KICZ PART 1 OF 2) - SECURITY..UNITED STATES OF AMERICA PROHIBITION AGAINST CERTAIN
FLIGHTS IN THE OVERWATER AREA OF THE TEHRAN FLIGHT INFORMATION
REGION (FIR) (OIIX) ABOVE THE PERSIAN GULF AND GULF OF OMAN ONLY.
ALL FLIGHT OPERATIONS IN THE OVERWATER AREA OF THE TEHRAN FLIGHT
INFORMATION REGION (FIR) (OIIX) ABOVE THE PERSIAN GULF AND GULF OF
OMAN ONLY ARE PROHIBITED UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE DUE TO HEIGHTENED
MILITARY ACTIVITIES AND INCREASED POLITICAL TENSIONS IN THE REGION,
WHICH PRESENT AN INADVERTENT RISK TO U.S. CIVIL AVIATION OPERATIONS
AND POTENTIAL FOR MISCALCULATION OR MIS-IDENTIFICATION. THE RISK TO
U.S. CIVIL AVIATION IS DEMONSTRATED BY THE IRANIAN SURFACE-TO-AIR
MISSILE SHOOT DOWN OF A U.S. UNMANNED AIRCRAFT SYSTEM ON 19 JUNE
2019 WHILE IT WAS OPERATING IN THE VICINITY OF CIVIL AIR ROUTES
ABOVE THE GULF OF OMAN.
A. APPLICABILITY. THIS NOTAM APPLIES TO: ALL U.S. AIR CARRIERS AND
COMMERCIAL OPERATORS; ALL PERSONS EXERCISING THE PRIVILEGES OF AN
AIRMAN CERTIFICATE ISSUED BY THE FAA, EXCEPT SUCH PERSONS OPERATING
U.S.-REGISTERED AIRCRAFT FOR A FOREIGN AIR CARRIER; AND ALL
OPERATORS OF AIRCRAFT REGISTERED IN THE UNITED STATES, EXCEPT WHERE
END PART 1 OF 2. 21 JUN 01:48 2019 UNTIL PERM. CREATED: 21 JUN 02:00 2019
A0019/19 (Issued for KICZ PART 2 OF 2) - THE OPERATOR OF SUCH AIRCRAFT IS A FOREIGN AIR CARRIER.
B. PERMITTED OPERATIONS. THIS NOTAM DOES NOT PROHIBIT PERSONS
DESCRIBED IN PARAGRAPH A (APPLICABILITY) FROM CONDUCTING FLIGHT
OPERATIONS IN THE ABOVE NAMED AREA WHEN SUCH OPERATIONS ARE
AUTHORIZED EITHER BY ANOTHER AGENCY OF THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT
WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE FAA OR BY A DEVIATION, EXEMPTION, OR OTHER
AUTHORIZATION ISSUED BY THE FAA ADMINISTRATOR. OPERATORS MUST CALL
THE FAA WASHINGTON OPERATIONS CENTER AT 202-267-3333 TO INITIATE
COORDINATION FOR FAA AUTHORIZATION TO CONDUCT OPERATIONS.
C. EMERGENCY SITUATIONS. IN AN EMERGENCY THAT REQUIRES IMMEDIATE
DECISION AND ACTION FOR THE SAFETY OF THE FLIGHT, THE PILOT IN
COMMAND OF AN AIRCRAFT MAY DEVIATE FROM THIS NOTAM TO THE EXTENT
REQUIRED BY THAT EMERGENCY.
THIS NOTAM IS AN EMERGENCY ORDER ISSUED UNDER 49 USC 40113(A) AND
46105(C).
ADDITIONAL INFORMATION IS PROVIDED AT:
HTTPS://WWW.FAA.GOV/AIR_TRAFFIC/PUBLICA ... TRICTIONS/. SFC - UNL END
PART 2 OF 2, 21 JUN 01:48 2019 UNTIL PERM. CREATED: 21 JUN 02:00 2019.
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Re: Middle East tensions increase

Post by T_J » Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:40 pm

Iran refrained from blowing up an American plane with 35 people on board that was accompanying the unmanned drone the Revolutionary Guard Corps shot down, an Iranian commander said Friday.

“With the US drone in the region there was also an American P-8 plane with 35 people on board,” Amir Ali Hajizadeh, head of the Guard’s Aerospace Force, was quoted as saying by the Tasnim news agency.

“This plane also entered our airspace and we could have shot it down, but we did not,” he said.


The P-8 Poseidon — based on Boeing’s 737-800 airframe — carries anti-submarine and anti-surface warfare equipment, as well as shipping interdiction and electronic support measures.
https://nypost.com/2019/06/21/iran-says ... 35-people/

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Re: Middle East tensions increase

Post by slogen51 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 4:09 pm

A few years ago Iran was becoming more moderate until tough Western sanctions gave the Iranian hard liners the ammunition they needed. It is pathetic the way both sides are behaving. "He flew into our airspace so we will shoot it down". Ridiculous , they should raise the issue with the UN not threaten all out war.

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Re: Middle East tensions increase

Post by ChrisCwmbran » Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:45 pm

The UN is a total waste of time. It has no teeth, and general does nothing because of vetos.

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Re: Middle East tensions increase

Post by Hawkwind26 » Tue Jul 02, 2019 1:43 pm

slogen51 wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2019 4:09 pm
A few years ago Iran was becoming more moderate until tough Western sanctions gave the Iranian hard liners the ammunition they needed. It is pathetic the way both sides are behaving. "He flew into our airspace so we will shoot it down". Ridiculous , they should raise the issue with the UN not threaten all out war.
Did I read last year that many of Iran's F14s were to be retrofitted / upgraded in the USA sometime this year? Perhaps not so now. I've seen that it wishes to keep this airframe going up to 2030 at least as an air superiority fighter interceptor having turned down F15 when offered. Likely now to be Chinese replacements, if not Russian I guess.

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Re: Middle East tensions increase

Post by Andy Marden » Tue Jul 02, 2019 2:11 pm

Hawkwind26 wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2019 1:43 pm
Did I read last year that many of Iran's F14s were to be retrofitted / upgraded in the USA sometime this year?
Erm, no, I don't think you did....

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Re: Middle East tensions increase

Post by Vulcanone » Tue Jul 02, 2019 2:49 pm

Captain Manwaring.....

Were dooooooooooooooooomed

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Re: Middle East tensions increase

Post by Vulcanone » Tue Jul 02, 2019 2:53 pm

On a slightly more responsive note.... I don't recall the Shah being interested in the F-15, they almost got as far as ordering early version F-16s however... Then 40 years ago it all went a bit pear shaped....

Hawkwind26, The reason behind pretty much all Tomcats that didn't go into US museums, being crushed.... should be fairly obvious

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Re: Middle East tensions increase

Post by Hawkwind26 » Tue Jul 02, 2019 8:43 pm

Thanks for the responses, did read that almost all F14s were crushed, gate guards or museumed - better lay off the evening cheese.

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Re: Middle East tensions increase

Post by dotwatcher01 » Wed Jul 03, 2019 4:42 pm

They got a lot further than almost ordering early F-16s, following the Jan'79 revolution, their order for 75 F-16A/Bs was diverted to Israel! Ironically soon after delivery some if these were used against Iran's sworn enemy!

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Re: Middle East tensions increase

Post by Hawkwind26 » Wed Jul 03, 2019 6:54 pm

Looks like it will kick off again very soon following today's announcement regarding uranium enrichment. Cannot see the POTUS cow toing to Iran for much longer. Will they go it alone or seek Allies? We don't have a choice do we.

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Re: Middle East tensions increase

Post by bizfreeq » Wed Jul 03, 2019 8:52 pm

Of course we have a choice! I really don't see any of the U.S. allies having any appetite for taking on Iran in any kind of war scenario.
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Re: Middle East tensions increase

Post by Hawkwind26 » Thu Jul 04, 2019 3:07 pm

bizfreeq wrote:
Wed Jul 03, 2019 8:52 pm
Of course we have a choice! I really don't see any of the U.S. allies having any appetite for taking on Iran in any kind of war scenario.
Really? UK troops board oil tanker carrying Iranian crude oil in " Spanish" waters after the USA tracks it's passage. Against EU sanctions - could all be fake news of course.

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