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Royal International Air Tattoo 2018 Discussion Thread

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Re: Royal International Air Tattoo 2018 Discussion Thread

Post by Andyperkins » Sat Jul 14, 2018 2:57 pm

gnirtS wrote:
Sat Jul 14, 2018 2:12 pm
steamy wrote:
Sat Jul 14, 2018 12:00 pm
Had a great day Friday... was last at RIAT 3/4 years ago.. much more variety this time round.

Yeah the cancellations and rain was pants, but got to see lot I've never seen before, so I was still impressed..

French Navy Rafale duo, Swiss F-18 and the Sukoi were top for me..

bit of an observation, and may be completely wrong, but is the F-35 much less manouverable than it's 4gen counterparts? the display seemed very wide and sluggish. Accelleration though was amazing, there were one or two occasions when the jet accellerated away from the crowd and it was FAST ! Also, the commentary was a proper sales pitch, I did feel like I wanted to buy one after it :D
I was really unimpressed by the F-35A but was giving it some benefit of the doubt in that he wasnt meant to solo display so probably had things planned around the P51 and may well need display authorisation for anything more. Reminded me of typhoons first displays when it was engine and g limited.

Also not sure what the pilots plan was, he spent a lot of the time out behind the crowd line of the car parks. Display consisted of 30 seconds of a pass, roll or climb then 2 mins respositioning while we were subject to some fairly crappy american rock music.

It may have been a last minute "Do something, anything" display within the restrictions allowed in that. If it wasn't then yeah theres no excuse. F-35 is a dog for sure but the -A variant is capable enough to put on a display (way more than the -B we got).
The V-22 i thought could have done much more of a show than he did with the aircraft.
Display team wise the Swiss were very good technically, the Frecce Tricolori were very very good. The Aguila i think hampered by a flat display weather but their commentator has to win an award for enthusiasm - the guy was full of it but always sounded genuinely surprised when they did something.

There was some good flying, no use of flares and pyro which they had at Yeovilton disappointed a bit, the CF18 and Belgian were good again but the Rafale solo and the SU-27 was fantastic examples of a "busy" non stop high energy display.
Weather really limited photo ops though, combined with me failing to find anywhere crowd centre to position myself.
Flares are never allowed at Fairford so no surprise there.

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Re: Royal International Air Tattoo 2018 Discussion Thread

Post by rh226 » Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:19 pm

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Sat Jul 14, 2018 2:45 pm
Well, if you're not able to come today and missed the B2 : you missed nothing.
Yep, 82-1068 was at RIAT 2012 and, also, was on deployment at Fairford June 2017 at the time of Baltops/Sabre Strike.
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Re: Royal International Air Tattoo 2018 Discussion Thread

Post by von_trippenhopf » Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:49 pm

GoldenEagle wrote:
Sat Jul 14, 2018 2:45 pm
Well, if you're not able to come today and missed the B2 : you missed nothing.
I still find it odd that years ago they had 2 B-2's at (the then) IAT, one on static & one flying. Now you get one fly past with F-15 escort (why??) and it's gone.
I get the feeling they are doing a P.R. job and trying to make it out to be a lot more 'Spooky' than it really is. :ninja:
Maybe it's just me. :roll:
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Post by Dan213 » Sat Jul 14, 2018 4:02 pm

rh226 wrote:
Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:19 pm
GoldenEagle wrote:
Sat Jul 14, 2018 2:45 pm
Well, if you're not able to come today and missed the B2 : you missed nothing.
Yep, 82-1068 was at RIAT 2012 and, also, was on deployment at Fairford June 2017 at the time of Baltops/Sabre Strike.
Honestly, some people... Just be glad you got to see it!

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Post by seven » Sat Jul 14, 2018 4:03 pm

Actually its debut was '97, so no B-2 ever visited IAT.

IIRC all the Global Power flypasts at Fairford have been escorted by F-15's, but when op. from Fairford itself, they were not. Could be wrong there though.

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Post by ChrisCwmbran » Sat Jul 14, 2018 5:07 pm

Well that's my RIAT for 2018 over and done. The B-2 was a nice surprise but overall I'd say it was a quite disappointing year from my point of view.

Hope the weather holds for those going tomorrow too.

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Post by Blue Diamond » Sat Jul 14, 2018 5:19 pm

Have been at RIAT since Thursday and I’ve loved every minute. Yesterday’s weather didn’t help but today more than made up for it. Roll on tomorrow. :)
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Post by von_trippenhopf » Sat Jul 14, 2018 7:48 pm

seven wrote:
Sat Jul 14, 2018 4:03 pm
Actually its debut was '97, so no B-2 ever visited IAT.
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Post by Blackcat1 » Sat Jul 14, 2018 8:08 pm

Had some lovely passes over Lechlade!!
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Post by graham luxton » Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:02 am

rh226 wrote:
Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:19 pm
GoldenEagle wrote:
Sat Jul 14, 2018 2:45 pm
Well, if you're not able to come today and missed the B2 : you missed nothing.
Yep, 82-1068 was at RIAT 2012 and, also, was on deployment at Fairford June 2017 at the time of Baltops/Sabre Strike.
Also visited 7 - 9 June'15. Of the 12 B-2's that have been to Fairford, counting flyby's as well as those which have landed, this has been to Fairford more times than any other B-2. Even so, it was still great to see it.

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Post by phantomjohn » Sun Jul 15, 2018 10:44 am

Any special visitors/flypast for Sunday?

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Re: Royal International Air Tattoo 2018 Discussion Thread

Post by zoot horn rollo » Mon Jul 16, 2018 11:16 am

I thought the Spanish CN295 departure on the Friday merited the best flying display award. Low level screaming down the runway then stick pulled back for a steep climb.

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Post by Alfie » Mon Jul 16, 2018 11:23 am

I had a great day yesterday, apart from missing a turning on the way in for the Brown route and ending up on the Blue route resulting in sitting in a tailback for 45mins. For the first time this year I upgraded to an enclosure, choosing the viewing garden, money well spent. One of the highlights for me was the Great War Display Team. I thought like some of the previous comments on here they might have been lost on such a large display area, but I thought they put on a cracking show and very fitting to be included in the 100 year celebrations.

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Re: Royal International Air Tattoo 2018 Discussion Thread

Post by stevep22 » Mon Jul 16, 2018 11:31 am

Quick question. I was carting so much stuff around on Saturday I omitted to buy a programme and checklist. Are they still available from anywhere..?

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Re: Royal International Air Tattoo 2018 Discussion Thread

Post by quid21 » Mon Jul 16, 2018 1:15 pm

von_trippenhopf wrote:
Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:49 pm
GoldenEagle wrote:
Sat Jul 14, 2018 2:45 pm
Well, if you're not able to come today and missed the B2 : you missed nothing.
I still find it odd that years ago they had 2 B-2's at (the then) IAT, one on static & one flying. Now you get one fly past with F-15 escort (why??) and it's gone.
I get the feeling they are doing a P.R. job and trying to make it out to be a lot more 'Spooky' than it really is. :ninja:
Maybe it's just me. :roll:
I remember years ago the US participation in airshows abroad was brought to a halt by sequestration - perhaps money is why it's acceptable to fly a training mission with the B-2, rather than fly it over for an airshow which probably costs more dollars than a flyby.

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Re: Royal International Air Tattoo 2018 Discussion Thread

Post by GaryS » Mon Jul 16, 2018 1:56 pm

zoot horn rollo wrote:
Mon Jul 16, 2018 11:16 am
I thought the Spanish CN295 departure on the Friday merited the best flying display award. Low level screaming down the runway then stick pulled back for a steep climb.
+1

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Post by jem60 » Mon Jul 16, 2018 3:06 pm

Blimey!!. If a low level pass followed by a steep climb in a medium-sized turbo-prop was the highlight of RIAT then I am glad I didn't go!!!!!!!. The rest must have been grim by comparison!!.

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Post by paddyboy » Mon Jul 16, 2018 3:10 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Bang on as always, John ;)

Now you know why we NEVER go to a 'RIAT' :lol:

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Re: Royal International Air Tattoo 2018 Discussion Thread

Post by Alfie » Mon Jul 16, 2018 3:26 pm

I'm not sure you can compare The older IAT/RIAT with the present day. I started going to the IAT at Greenham and went to the first ones at Fairford, also if I'm not mistaken one at Boscombe Down. In those long ago days more money was being spent on defence, most of the Air Forces around the world were flying different types of aircraft so there was quite a mixture of types on show and flying and of course the USA were happy to display. Returning to modern times most of the modern front line planes are either F16, F18, or Typhoons so you are bound to get duplications and of course every government has pulled in it's purse strings. I went yesterday had a very good day and will probably return next year, just happy to go to an airshow of such good quality. It is no good looking back to previous shows, or perhaps we all should audition for the next series of Grumpy Old Men if it were to return.

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Re: Royal International Air Tattoo 2018 Discussion Thread

Post by Nighthawke » Mon Jul 16, 2018 3:37 pm

Well for those of us who don't go to shows these days, we only have previous ones to look back on :)

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