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Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson - didn't he do well?

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Re: Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson - didn't he do well?

Post by DanBeeden » Sat Dec 14, 2019 7:49 pm

paddyboy wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2019 5:26 am
Good riddance to the Marxist, IRA-loving, pacifist, anti-Semitic, anti-royalist disaster that is Comrade Corbyn AND his sycophantic followers :grr:

He and his ilk were the one and only reason I was forced to vote Tory for the first time in my life :grr:

Get out of my Labour party and crawl back under your Soviet stone NOW :grr:

PS: yes, well done Boris :thumbs:
This is a really ignorant thing to say. Are you guys aware of the proportion of younger people that voted Labour?

I’m assuming you/your families have no plans to need to use the NHS, schools, social care, mental health care provision, a Sure Start centre, etc. etc. in the future?

I can’t help thinking you’ve just voted massively against your own best interests. Just because it’s printed in the Daily Mail doesn’t mean it’s true.

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Re: Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson - didn't he do well?

Post by baz1 » Sat Dec 14, 2019 9:22 pm

us more senior people have lived through a lot of different PM's as i'm sure you may do, we have seen and been through it all. IE Mr Blair and the weapons of mass destruction scenario for starters !!

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Re: Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson - didn't he do well?

Post by Nighthawke » Sat Dec 14, 2019 10:11 pm

Yes and we don't need some pathetic rag to inform us either! Some of us can judge for ourselves.

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Re: Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson - didn't he do well?

Post by paddyboy » Sun Dec 15, 2019 5:15 am

Unfortunately, the younger members of our population have no knowledge of (or choose to ignore) Corbyn's previous track record on the IRA and Islamic radicals, let alone his stance on NATO and defence :grr:

Manifesto :lol:

That was a work of total fiction and totally untenable to any sentient being :grr:

As was said on more than one interview yesterday, the younger population should give thanks to the older Labour voters who saved us from the awful results of Corbynism by lending their votes on a one-off basis to the Tories to rid us of someone who would have been worse than Michael Foot :grr:
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Re: Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson - didn't he do well?

Post by warferry » Sun Dec 15, 2019 6:15 am

Well done Paddy some folk should read A Dangerous Hero book.

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Re: Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson - didn't he do well?

Post by Pen Pusher » Sun Dec 15, 2019 8:22 am

baz1 wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2019 9:22 pm
us more senior people have lived through a lot of different PM's as i'm sure you may do, we have seen and been through it all.
Especially when Labour were in power and the Unions ran the country.

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Re: Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson - didn't he do well?

Post by Alfie » Sun Dec 15, 2019 9:22 am

In reply to Paddyboy mis-guided retric about links with the IRA, I think he will find the only party to have an ex IRA member within it's rank is the the Tory party one Maria Gatland, perhaps check your facts before making wild statements. Secondly why did your mate Boris suppress the report about Russian involvement in British politics to after the election, Oh I forgot the the Bun and the Wail didn't play on that did they.

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Re: Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson - didn't he do well?

Post by XWP29 » Sun Dec 15, 2019 9:28 am

DanBeeden wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2019 7:49 pm
paddyboy wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2019 5:26 am
Good riddance to the Marxist, IRA-loving, pacifist, anti-Semitic, anti-royalist disaster that is Comrade Corbyn AND his sycophantic followers :grr:

He and his ilk were the one and only reason I was forced to vote Tory for the first time in my life :grr:

Get out of my Labour party and crawl back under your Soviet stone NOW :grr:

PS: yes, well done Boris :thumbs:
This is a really ignorant thing to say. Are you guys aware of the proportion of younger people that voted Labour?

I’m assuming you/your families have no plans to need to use the NHS, schools, social care, mental health care provision, a Sure Start centre, etc. etc. in the future?

I can’t help thinking you’ve just voted massively against your own best interests. Just because it’s printed in the Daily Mail doesn’t mean it’s true.
Hi Dan
Many youngsters including my own, don’t remember the 70’s Labour Government highlights, which is where Momentum and the Corbyn/McDonnell project would have taken us:
The three day week
Power cuts
Rubbish piled in the streets
Loved ones not buried for weeks and weeks
Pathetic train services and BR sandwiches yuk!
High Inflation and interest rates
National debt to the IMF
Secondary picketing
Companies brought to their knees by continual disruption by strikes.
Giving high profile publicity to Gerry Adams when our troops were being slaughtered by the IRA. Not in the Daily Mail, Oh no! Seen in the flesh on the BBC news at the time. He was regularly seen with the perpetrators of terrorism,(can you name one time when he did the same with their victims?)

Blair/Brown era, sold off gold reserves at the bottom of the market, taxed pension transactions and caused the near on total collapse of final salary schemes. De-regulated the banks which lead to individuals having credit for amounts way in excess of their ability to repay, which in turn led to the Government having to bail the financial services out. Basically with everyone who had been prudent covering the cost with stupefyingly low interest rates, which persists to this very day. The 2008 recession followed, caused, according to the apologists for new labour by a world banking collapse. :lol: :lol: Remember who left the note left in the Treasury “ there is no money left? One can only wonder how much damage would have been caused by the lack of any fiscal probity arising from the fantasy that is Corbynomic’s, we can be sure that it would have led to the worst economic debt and collapse by the end of his term.

The NHS is always going to need higher and higher amounts of money. It is creaking not least because of the vast increase in demand for its services, leaps in medical science and treatment during a time of massive national debt. Going forward it looks like the Government will ring fence the NHS in law and with a little head room and less zeal to pay down the national debt that is going to be a good thing.
As for the rest of the points you made there is some urgency needed to protect the vulnerable who really need help. The concentration on Austerity went to fast, too quickly, however the control and balancing of the national debt is the key to providing stability for the services we all desire to see. Simply this cannot be done when the state coffers are in tatters. Why is it OK for the Government to borrow and borrow, it makes no sense in the terms of every other fiscal rule we follow. That’s the key balance the books and don’t keep borrowing.

Corbyn was a peripheral M.P near the end of his soft job in the commons. If not for Margaret Beckett’s stupidity of nominating him for the leaders contest Labour might have had a balanced and rounded leader.

At least I’m really proud of voters like Paddy he is absolutely 100 % spot on 👍
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Re: Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson - didn't he do well?

Post by Vulcan74 » Sun Dec 15, 2019 10:21 am

A good result for all, if Corbyn had got in he would have sold this country down the river!!

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Post by Alfie » Sun Dec 15, 2019 12:12 pm

Vulcan74 And Boris and his buddies aren't. We are heading to be the next state of the USA with Boris in power. He has already had tals about selling the NHS to the USA. Also don't forget it is the tory government of the the last years that have slashed our military forces with their cost cutting and defence spending reviews. Just take your chance to see their Red Arrows in 2020 you never know it may they last year with another defence spending review coming up in the new year.

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Post by raptor9 » Sun Dec 15, 2019 12:17 pm

Wel lsaid, Paddy etc., Thank goodness we will be Corbyn neutral in early 2020. Like all oldies, we remember Labour Governments of the past!!!!!!!. They couldn't cost out a housewife's shopping list .

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Re: Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson - didn't he do well?

Post by Thunder » Sun Dec 15, 2019 3:02 pm

Every Labour Government in recent generations has left the country broke with their spend spend, borrow borrow attitude and overly inflated contracts, then somehow it’s the Tories fault when things have to be reined in to plug the massive Black hole left behind.

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Post by baz1 » Sun Dec 15, 2019 3:07 pm

Corbyn and Mcdonald, well you know what they say no show is complete without Punch /Judy !! :D

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Re: Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson - didn't he do well?

Post by ChrisCwmbran » Sun Dec 15, 2019 4:35 pm

Diane Abbott for Labour leader! :P

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Re: Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson - didn't he do well?

Post by Freeman Lowell » Sun Dec 15, 2019 6:26 pm

ChrisCwmbran wrote:
Sun Dec 15, 2019 4:35 pm
Diane Abbott for Labour leader! :P
“For the many, not the shoe!”

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Re: Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson - didn't he do well?

Post by The Phantom » Sun Dec 15, 2019 7:42 pm

ChrisCwmbran wrote:
Sun Dec 15, 2019 4:35 pm
Diane Abbott for Labour leader! :P
I'm sure the Tories would be more than happy with that. Would ensure another big victory in 5 years time!

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Re: Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson - didn't he do well?

Post by Vulcan74 » Sun Dec 15, 2019 8:20 pm

Then there's Jess Phillips oh no!!! :lol:

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Re: Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson - didn't he do well?

Post by paddyboy » Sun Dec 15, 2019 8:27 pm

I feel so sad that Comrade Corbyn and Momentum have been allowed to poison the Labour party and turn their politics from socialism and social justice to simple envy and jealousy of anyone who has the guts and gumption to get off their bums, make a success of themselves, earn a bit and then build structures and companies that give jobs to other people, ordinary working class people such as myself, who are then able to save a bit towards old age via a private pension :grr:

The very companies whose funds Corbyn and his ilk would have raped for his manic fantasies (manifesto) :grr:

He is gone for good (good riddance) and if his cronies really think they can continue in the same vein, then Boris will be in power for far longer than the next 5 years, believe me :grr:

The followers of Marxism/Trotskyism/Corbynism, call it what you like, will never hold sway in this country, thank the Lord :grr:

By the way, as far as the NHS is concerned, I for one am eternally grateful to it, as my wife, who has incurable bone cancer (Myeloma) has had nothing but stunning treatment over the last few years :(

Thanks for your support, guys, you know who you are :clap:
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Re: Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson - didn't he do well?

Post by Blackcat1 » Sun Dec 15, 2019 9:42 pm

Very sorry to hear that Paddyboy. Cancer is a despicable disease, lost many family members to it far too young .
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Post by slogen51 » Sun Dec 15, 2019 10:35 pm

I would not be surprised, if there is a Labour leadership contest, that Corbyn's name is included on the ballot and the grass roots in the party will reelect him.

Wasn't there a rumour at the last leadership contest that the labour party membership was swelled by so called £3 members who were probably Tory infiltrators who had a vested interest in keeping Corbyn in charge?

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