RAF changed Dog grave wording

[ChrisCwmbran]

"with a horrific slur carved into it"

That's the funniest thing I've read all day.

Get a life! Whoever used the word 'snowflake' wasn't far wrong!

[EGDR]

Are you really questioning the offensiveness of the word? I would have hoped in today's world it's a given, but perhaps that's wishful thinking.

[Thunder]

You claim that the name Nigger on the headstone is offensive and disgusting. Surely not in this context as a name.

Of course it's offensive, there is only one definition of the word "a contemptuous term used to refer to a member of any dark-skinned people."

Even as far back as the mid 1800's it was widely acknowledged to be an offensive term and by the late 1800's it's use in society was scorned upon. For Gibson to call the dog what he did was offensive even in the 1940's, I'm surprised that it's taken the powers that be so long to do something about it.

[ChrisCwmbran]

Are you really questioning the offensiveness of the word? I would have hoped in today's world it's a given, but perhaps that's wishful thinking.

Of course I'm not questioning the fact that it is a word that should not be used. But to call it a "horrific slur" is just a joke.

Do I take it that if you were to visit said base and see the word in situ that you'd cry for hours on end and be unable to sleep.

A slur:

an insinuation or allegation about someone that is likely to insult them or damage their reputation.
"the comments were a slur on staff at the hospital"

The use of the word in question is clearly not a slur - it does not insinuate or allege anything at all. It is just a word that has become inappropriate to use.

And in the same way I'd suggest the use of the word "horrific" is also somewhat over the top.

Ones beliefs do not make someone a snowflake. The words they use around them do.

[Tooks]

Are you really questioning the offensiveness of the word? I would have hoped in today's world it's a given, but perhaps that's wishful thinking.

Of course I'm not questioning the fact that it is a word that should not be used. But to call it a "horrific slur" is just a joke.

Do I take it that if you were to visit said base and see the word in situ that you'd cry for hours on end and be unable to sleep.

A slur:

an insinuation or allegation about someone that is likely to insult them or damage their reputation.
"the comments were a slur on staff at the hospital"

The use of the word in question is clearly not a slur - it does not insinuate or allege anything at all. It is just a word that has become inappropriate to use.

And in the same way I'd suggest the use of the word "horrific" is also somewhat over the top.

Ones beliefs do not make someone a snowflake. The words they use around them do.

Splitting hairs in a dictionary definition to try and defend the indefensible is a first, even on FC.

And quit with the snowflake comments, otherwise people will have to start using ‘gammon’.

The RAF command reviewed one of their own memorials, on RAF estate, and decided it was incompatible with the modern RAF.

They changed it.

To use familiar terms, get over it, deal with it.

[ChrisCwmbran]

If you say so, Snowflake.

[Tooks]

If you say so, Snowflake.

Pathetic, to be quite honest.

[Blackcat1]

C24 I didn't mean you lol. All I'm trying to say is life is too short.

[Bobcode]

Are you really questioning the offensiveness of the word? I would have hoped in today's world it's a given, but perhaps that's wishful thinking.

Of course I'm not questioning the fact that it is a word that should not be used. But to call it a "horrific slur" is just a joke.

Do I take it that if you were to visit said base and see the word in situ that you'd cry for hours on end and be unable to sleep.

A slur:

an insinuation or allegation about someone that is likely to insult them or damage their reputation.
"the comments were a slur on staff at the hospital"

The use of the word in question is clearly not a slur - it does not insinuate or allege anything at all. It is just a word that has become inappropriate to use.

And in the same way I'd suggest the use of the word "horrific" is also somewhat over the top.

Ones beliefs do not make someone a snowflake. The words they use around them do.

Splitting hairs in a dictionary definition to try and defend the indefensible is a first, even on FC.

And quit with the snowflake comments, otherwise people will have to start using ‘gammon’.

The RAF command reviewed one of their own memorials, on RAF estate, and decided it was incompatible with the modern RAF.

They changed it.

To use familiar terms, get over it, deal with it.

Do you have proof positive that the RAF Command reviewed this memorial ? or were they leaned on by the professionally upset brigade, We have determined it is part of history so, to use your adopted vernacular, suck it up buttercup

[slogen51]

Is blackcat permitted

I don't believe in white washing history - if people are offended by the grave then don't go there - but we must acknowledge that the dog's name is offensive at this point in time although I assume Gibson was using the word as a term of affection for his dog - weird to us but different days and we shall never fully understand as the past like the sins of our fathers are dead.

[Tooks]

Of course I'm not questioning the fact that it is a word that should not be used. But to call it a "horrific slur" is just a joke.

Do I take it that if you were to visit said base and see the word in situ that you'd cry for hours on end and be unable to sleep.

A slur:



The use of the word in question is clearly not a slur - it does not insinuate or allege anything at all. It is just a word that has become inappropriate to use.

And in the same way I'd suggest the use of the word "horrific" is also somewhat over the top.

Ones beliefs do not make someone a snowflake. The words they use around them do.

Splitting hairs in a dictionary definition to try and defend the indefensible is a first, even on FC.

And quit with the snowflake comments, otherwise people will have to start using ‘gammon’.

The RAF command reviewed one of their own memorials, on RAF estate, and decided it was incompatible with the modern RAF.

They changed it.

To use familiar terms, get over it, deal with it.

Do you have proof positive that the RAF Command reviewed this memorial ? or were they leaned on by the professionally upset brigade, We have determined it is part of history so, to use your adopted vernacular, suck it up buttercup

Fortunately, I don’t need to suck anything up.

The RAF did the right thing in my view, therefore I’m quite happy thank you.

[C24]

How many posts will this generate?

My wife is digging holes for pansies.

Stay safe. 🕊

[fester]

Mic drop for Tooks.

Hopefully an end to 5 pages of white people stating that it isn't offensive,
easy to say when your race doesn't affect your day to day life whatsoever.

[EGDR]

Are you really questioning the offensiveness of the word? I would have hoped in today's world it's a given, but perhaps that's wishful thinking.

Of course I'm not questioning the fact that it is a word that should not be used. But to call it a "horrific slur" is just a joke.

The word "horrific" as an adjective is defined as meaning something extremely bad and/or shocking. Not exactly sure why this would be out of place? You might wanna have a word with some people who've been on the receiving end of the word. Or even those who have been on the receiving end of slurs referring to other minority groups, like myself.

[Leuchars Fan]

I was posted to RAF Spadeadam in 1983, 617 Sqn were just getting up to operational standard with the Tornado GR1. Whenever we had a pair or more of them using the range they initially pitched up as "N" formation, after a few months they began using "Black Dog" as the formation callsign.

LF

[Blackcat1]

Is blackcat permitted

I don't believe in white washing history - if people are offended by the grave then don't go there - but we must acknowledge that the dog's name is offensive at this point in time although I assume Gibson was using the word as a term of affection for his dog - weird to us but different days and we shall never fully understand as the past like the sins of our fathers are dead.

Well I'm not changing my name

[slogen51]

C24 I didn't mean you lol. All I'm trying to say is life is too short.

I wouldn't watch ITV4 tonight if I were you - they are replaying the 2003 Rugby World Cup Quarter Final between Wales and England!

Colin Charvis great captain and a gentleman

Would never have been selected back in the ' good old days'

[iainpeden]

Political correctness gone too far?

https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/ind ... nt-3769516

[Mike]

I suppose it's politically incorrect but my last cat was called Sambo (she was black with a white bib & paws). Great moggy, she called it a day when she was 16 but she went everywhere that myself and my dog Ben went. That included the local pub, she found great delight in jumping onto to pool table and putting the balls into the pockets, the locals weren't happy as they were playing for hard cash.

During the 16 years that I looked after her there was absolutely nobody that complained about her name being racist in any way, hundreds of people knew Sambo.

This is Ben and Sambo, they were the best of friends..............

[Blackcat1]

Gorgeous furry friends!!