The Ukraine Situation

[Bobcode]

In conflcts we need a Truly neautral concern who have no links or influences one way or the other. your link is not sutch. sorry.

What degree of neutrality is required to comment on the unprovoked invasion of a country and the killing if its civilians ? Putin’s criminal act is indefensible……..

[Vulcanone]

So I wonder who is as nutty as.....

Proclaiming we were involved with the drone attack on the Black Sea Fleet. Oh and the gas pipelines .....

Plenty of straws for clutching eh ....

[iainpeden]

Massive drone attack ....... nine, apparently.

A false flag attack by Russia on its own fleet as an excuse to pull out of the grain shipment deal? I wonder.

[seven]

Looked fairly legit from the leaked footage so far, asuming it's genuine of course.

[Col Nago]

Looks like it was the stealth kamikaze drone boats again. One washed ashore at Sevastopol a few months back - maybe an initial failed attempt - and they reckon they used them against the Crimea bridge attack. As you say seven - the footage looks pretty legitimate.

[effects]

In conflcts we need a Truly neautral concern who have no links or influences one way or the other. your link is not sutch. sorry.

And who would that be then then? The TUC?

Don't know what its got to do with a Trades union?

So it's just coincidence Russian aggression and a massive increase in strike action?

[effects]

Don't know what its got to do with a Trades union?

So it's just coincidence Russian aggression and a massive increase in strike action?

Think you need to lay off the "Wacky wacky" stuff.

As you was in the forces during the cold war I assumed you would be up to speed on sleepers, fifth columnists etc!

[Pune]

My god, it's terrifying how some folks minds work

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My god, it's terrifying how some folks minds work

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/0 ... standstill

[cat1]

Don't know what its got to do with a Trades union?

So it's just coincidence Russian aggression and a massive increase in strike action?

Think you need to lay off the "Wacky wacky" stuff.

Next it will be 'what's wrong with putin he's a top bloke?'

[effects]

My god, it's terrifying how some folks minds work

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/0 ... standstill

Trouble is All news outlets are biased - when was the last time you saw an alternative viewpoint (not necessarily a conspiracy theorists one) you wont Ever.

That story from the Telegraph was across all the media, it's incredible how someone with those leanings could rise to the top of the RMT, unless of course funding has been gratefully received from certain places.

[steamy]

My god, it's terrifying how some folks minds work

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/0 ... standstill

Trouble is All news outlets are biased - when was the last time you saw an alternative viewpoint (not necessarily a conspiracy theorists one) you wont Ever.

Russia 1 TV channel have shows which talk about nuking the west daily ...

[steamy]

Trouble is All news outlets are biased - when was the last time you saw an alternative viewpoint (not necessarily a conspiracy theorists one) you wont Ever.

Russia 1 TV channel have shows which talk about nuking the west daily ...

I thought All Russia media was Blocked over here.

you're obviously not looking hard enough for your balanced intake of news

[Vulcanone]

Oh I bet your a barrel of laughs at Regiment reunions.... Shunned are we

As for your Chem labs suggest... Really think you need to take more of whatever drugs your on.

[slogen51]

Ok let's try to keep this thread appropriate and fitting of a very serious situation in the Ukraine .

[C24]

& of course, with
This link may offer some balance to the thread comments

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/

Of course there may be some bias in these reports.

[steamy]

I had 2 responses in here that were deleted...I feel I missed out on some Russian sympathisers hilarious garbage

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Worth a read, from RUSI

Executive Summary
• Russian Aerospace Forces (VKS) conducted significantly more extensive fixed-wing strike
operations during the first days of the invasion than has been previously documented,
while Ukrainian ground-based air-defence (GBAD) capabilities were suppressed by
initial attacks.
• During this period, Ukrainian fighter aircraft inflicted some losses on VKS aircraft
but also took serious casualties due to being totally technologically outmatched and
badly outnumbered.
• Russian fighters have remained highly effective and lethal against Ukrainian aircraft
near the frontlines throughout the war, especially the Su-35S with the R-77-1 long-range
missile and, in recent months, the Mig-31BM with the R-37 very long-range missile.
• From early March, the VKS lost the ability to operate in Ukrainian-controlled airspace
except at very low altitudes due to its inability to reliably suppress or destroy increasingly
effective, well-dispersed and mobile Ukrainian surface-to-air missile (SAM) systems.
• Russian GBAD has also been highly effective since March, especially the longrange S-400 SAM system supported by the 48Ya6 ‘Podlet-K1’ all-altitude long-range
surveillance radar system.

Rest can be found here:

https://static.rusi.org/SR-Russian-Air- ... -final.pdf

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VKS tactics...

https://eurasiantimes.com/russia-uses-s ... nian-jets/

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News from Kherson

Russia's military has been ordered to pull out of the Ukrainian city of Kherson, the only regional capital it captured after invading in February.

Russia's commander in Ukraine, Gen Sergei Surovikin, said it was no longer possible to keep supplying the city.

The withdrawal means Russian forces will pull out entirely from the western bank of the River Dnipro.

It is a significant blow as Russia faces a Ukrainian counter-offensive.

For the Kremlin it is also an embarrassment, says BBC Russia Editor Steve Rosenberg.

Rest here:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-63573387