Formula 1 2021

[Pune]

When I watched the first GP2 practice on Friday, I thought this was a very, very dangerous track. It is simply too fast to be a street circuit, with hardly any run-off areas, and the prospects of a car bouncing off the barriers into the path of others will, eventually, result in something resembling an air crash [thought of Anton Hubert at Spa !].Max Verstappen must soon realise that throwing the car at a corner and hoping it will not take out you or your opponent is not the way to endear yourself to anyone, and no way to win a World Championship, even if it results in that!. Very, very immature performance from him today, although I accept that the collision with Lewis on the straight was a misunderstanding, possibly by both. His attitude to everything else gives one the impression that everything he does is o.k. even if the relevant authorities deem him to be in the wrong, and the podium presentation was as disrespectful to his peers as it was possible to be. Petulant little brat who needs to grow up!!.

Perfectly summed up, sadly with Christian Horner backing him up 100% and seeing everyone else at fault Max will have that attitude. It will go terribly wrong one day and then they will all be asking why something had not been done, the race controller and stewards need to be stronger, a 10second penalty after the race is pathetic.
I also think Lewis was very controlled in post race interviews..next week could be fun

[2e1var]

Well that was fun, in the end. I'd written Hamilton off a few races back, brilliant recovery. Edge of your seat stuff all afternoon really. I thought that was it when the first red flag came out. Interesting that prior to hitting Max Lewis couldn't really get within a second through the twisty section to get DRS. After he damaged his wing he seemed to just be able to drive off and open up a substantial gap. Usual cars can't follow I guess. Whilst not a fan I've always enjoyed Max's style but not anymore, he goes too far now. What gets me the most is his moaning, first to cut people off or run them off the track then cries like a baby when exactly the same thing happens to him. He was absolutely shutting the door through the chicanes at Monza, didn't like it when Lewis did it to him. How were T4 Brazil and Silverstone any different ? The stewards decisions were better yesterday although the 10s penalty was a bit pointless. Had Max approached each race with the championship in mind rather than going all out for every corner, every win, he'd have a comfortable lead now.
Abu Dhabi worries me, I think it will suit this years Red Bull. The changes of the chicanes to hard corners should suit Merc but I'm not sure they will be able to follow. Due to the number of wins I think Max gets the championship if they take each other out, I hope it doesn't come to that.

Rich

[2e1var]

Forgot to mention, 69 bar of brake pressure resulting in a 2.4g deceleration from Max just before Lewis hit him. Lunatic.

[slogen51]

Great season for a change. Which ever of the two finishes in front in the next race wins the title which is how it should be.

I like Max - you have to have a bad guy / good guy otherwise there would be nothing to talk about and the season is decided with 5 races left.

I hope Hamilton achieves title number 8 and carries on but Max in my view is also a proper racer. That over take of Ocon and Lewis after the restarted restart! was inspirational absolutely top drawer.

[raptor9]

2e1VAR. I was not at all worried about Lewis not quite getting into the DRS zone for sometime. I always felt that he, and the car, were capable of closing the gap . Lewis, [the most thinking driver out there] was simply biding his time for the right opportunity later in the race. Slogen, I get what you say, but us 'purists' prefer to watch skill, rather than a Banzai approach that could cause much disrespect and/or damage, possibly with serious consequences. I agree with the first corner with Ocon, but, again it could very easily have taken all 3 drivers out, if you watch the slow motion reply. He needs to realise that that you have to use your brain, as well as your racing instinct

[Rugbyref]

Did Hamilton really get no penalty for blatant cheating? He was well over 10 cars adrift going back to the grid for the restart.

[tm74sqn]

As far as I know there is no rule that mentions 10 cars (or even 10 metres) after a re-start, so no cheating and no penalty.

[slogen51]

I am sorry Raptor9 but I can't accept your premise that Max should not have made that overtake in case he takes out Ocon and or Hamilton. F1 would be very dreary if drivers waited for a nailed on manoeuvre. Max had to take a few chances as Hamilton would simply have driven off into the distance ( albeit red flags would have squeezed them up again). DRS already takes a lot of the skill away for the sake of entertainment - people want to see overtaking but watching someone sweep past a defenceless driver on a straight is hardly excitement.

Max is using his brain - he knows that he must overtake Hamilton at the earliest convenience. Really the scene was set and his problems started in Quali when he ran out of skill on his final attempt at Pole.

[raptor9]

Slogen. I didn't at any time say he shouldn't have made the move, but simply stated that it could have taken out all three. TM74, you are indeed correct.

[slogen51]

You said

"I agree with the first corner with Ocon, but, again it could very easily have taken all 3 drivers out, if you watch the slow motion reply. He needs to realise that that you have to use your brain, as well as your racing instinct"

That implies a criticism - not having a go at you but that is the sentiment in most of the media - it implies , unfairly in my view, that Mad Max is reckless.

[slogen51]

We have all watched Hamilton for years and know that not only is he extremely skilled he is also a very clever driver. I believe he knows that when he attacks Max on the outside max will push him wide and under the right circumstances incur a penalty. Similar in football when a striker tries to draw a foul from a defender.

[raptor9]

Yes. It indeed implies a criticism that he is reckless, and it's not only the media that thinks it!. Pprune makes interesting reading tonight. Max was given two penalty points on his licence for the collision on the straight. Interesting that the odious Marko and Horner said that their telemetry showed that Max didn't brake. The Stewards examined RB's telemetry to find that he braked the car at 2.4g. So Marko and Horner were telling porkies.I agree that he can be a fine driver, but he oversteps the limits [cheating] too often to be admired by a lot fans.

[65thAgressor]

Come on Max,bring the title home for the Orange army!

[2e1var]

Did Hamilton really get no penalty for blatant cheating? He was well over 10 cars adrift going back to the grid for the restart.

No such rule, it applies to the formation lap not a lap to the grid. They were exiting the pit lane and driving to the grid, not doing a formation lap from the grid round to the start.

Rich

[2e1var]

I am sorry Raptor9 but I can't accept your premise that Max should not have made that overtake in case he takes out Ocon and or Hamilton. F1 would be very dreary if drivers waited for a nailed on manoeuvre. Max had to take a few chances as Hamilton would simply have driven off into the distance ( albeit red flags would have squeezed them up again). DRS already takes a lot of the skill away for the sake of entertainment - people want to see overtaking but watching someone sweep past a defenceless driver on a straight is hardly excitement.

Max is using his brain - he knows that he must overtake Hamilton at the earliest convenience. Really the scene was set and his problems started in Quali when he ran out of skill on his final attempt at Pole.

He shouldn't have made the move, he was nothing like along side Lewis going into the corner, Lewis had the right to take the racing line, as usual it was down to Lewis to avoid a collision when Max came back onto the track, he effectively overtook him off the circuit. I can't begin to imagine the problems we would have if these sorts of things weren't dealt with. You should probably watch it again.

https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/s ... -the-track

[slogen51]

Deleted the recording - guess I am not a purist.

You could always make F1 a time trial if you don't want drivers to race each other

Surely the definition of overtaking is that when you begin you are not along side ?

[C24]

Reading through everyone’s comments above leads me to restate , F1 is a shambles, not racing. Just an opinion based upon several years of following the circus.

[slogen51]

Yeah but it's great entertainment - I will be listening next week on 5 live then watch the high lights on C4

C'mon Sir Lewis bring in number 8 then give someone else a go but I suspect he will carry on and why not?

I am sure there will be some clandestine or illicit tactics from both sides!

[C24]

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Absolutely! Entertainment it is and if watched without bothering about the background to F1 quite acceptable. Tolerable if the mute button is used.

Your F-35 comment, “ESC” should be included in the pre race driver safety briefing

🛰.

[raptor9]

My prediction for the week-end. Lewis sets pole, Bottas second. Bottas gets out-dragged by MV, who comes steaming down the outside, inside, or over the top in the first corner, anyway will do, legal or not, hits Lewis in an attempt to take him out. Damages his and Lewis's car, Lewis struggles to the pits for new nosecone etc. gets back in the race, finishes in the points, whereas poor Max, despite his best efforts. has scored an own goal and damages his car too much and is out on the spot!! Lewis wins enough points, and is Champion!!!!. Poetic Justice, or fantasy... we shall see!!.