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Re: Royal Mail

Post by raptor9 » Mon Dec 19, 2022 6:45 am

Whilst not necessarily condoning strikes, there is little point in having a strike that has little impact.

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Re: Royal Mail

Post by baz1 » Tue Dec 20, 2022 11:56 am

raptor9 wrote:
Mon Dec 19, 2022 6:45 am
Whilst not necessarily condoning strikes, there is little point in having a strike that has little impact.
but the Union are making money out of this strike as RMT accounts show it ploughed £80,000 into shares in National Express coach firm who admitted benefitting when trains don't run and revealed in October its revenue soared by a third three months on the back of the summer rail strikes, accounts show the RMT added the stock before these strikes were announced. so the RMT are profiteering from these strikes.and :@ Mick Lynch's Salary is £84,000 and he earns £124,000 Annually His higher total package includes, National Insurance,tax,and Pension payments. :grr:
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Re: Royal Mail

Post by CGM » Wed Dec 21, 2022 12:12 pm

Some excellent points made in this thread and it's managed to stay almost completely respectable so far!

As a railway employee I am 100% behind the strikes and I can assure you it is not all about money. The RMT have their flaws but they are acting on our behalf. Of course there is anger at the disruption any strike is having but what other way is there when companies and Governments won't listen?

If the changes proposed are implemented it is going to have a huge affect on staff and the safe operation of the railway. The proposed cuts in track/signal maintenance have the potential for some serious incidents to happen. The changes to staff and how we are deployed are not practical. It lays even more responsibility on those with the more complex competencies which, at times, can already be extremely challenging.

I see many comments suggesting people walk away and find a new job. If those of us did walk then there will be no competent people left to teach our children, save our lives, transport people and goods safely and so on. We want to continue to provide the best service we can and keep trying our best to improve it but if we don't fight for it then cuts will continue and the services will decline.

Many of you already have your opinions on striking workers but my opinion is those not in unions miss out on a level of protection from senior management. None of us take this decision lightly and I've seen first hand the problems it has caused for those really struggling. It's not nice but it's necessary to protect our jobs and save our industries.

Hope everyone has a good Xmas and all the best for 2023.

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Re: Royal Mail

Post by slogen51 » Wed Dec 21, 2022 12:38 pm

Senior management are only human beings just like you

"Of course there is anger at the disruption any strike is having but what other way is there when companies and Governments won't listen?"

I thought strikes were a LAST resort

Not a big deal but I will be picking my uncle up from reading to take him to his Christmas meal because he doesn't trust the trains, so much for public transport

It's seems to be now that if someone doesn't give you what you want then clearly they are not listening.

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Re: Royal Mail

Post by raptor9 » Wed Dec 21, 2022 12:41 pm

CGM I see your point, but strikes over Christmas???. Come on, that is NOT a good thing for your Union to be doing. For a lot of old people who cannot drive long distances to see their Grandchildren, aged parents etc., this may be the last time that they can do this EVER!!. Your Union is denying them this possibly last pleasure!!. Initially, you had my sympathy, but sorry, not now!!. Because of the Christmas strike.

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Re: Royal Mail

Post by CGM » Wed Dec 21, 2022 1:05 pm

slogen51 wrote:
Wed Dec 21, 2022 12:38 pm
Senior management are only human beings just like you

"Of course there is anger at the disruption any strike is having but what other way is there when companies and Governments won't listen?"

I thought strikes were a LAST resort

Not a big deal but I will be picking my uncle up from reading to take him to his Christmas meal because he doesn't trust the trains, so much for public transport

It's seems to be now that if someone doesn't give you what you want then clearly they are not listening.
We are all human beings, absolutely and everyone should be treated like so. But do you not think that those in the actual roles affected should be listened to because we know first hand where improvements can be made and where the line should be drawn? Thus far this doesn't seem to have happened.

This has rumbled on for a long period of time and the company started to proceed with their plans last week so yes the strikes are the last resort.

It's more than understandable to not trust the trains but can you not see that cuts will make this even worse?

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Re: Royal Mail

Post by CGM » Wed Dec 21, 2022 1:19 pm

raptor9 wrote:
Wed Dec 21, 2022 12:41 pm
CGM I see your point, but strikes over Christmas???. Come on, that is NOT a good thing for your Union to be doing. For a lot of old people who cannot drive long distances to see their Grandchildren, aged parents etc., this may be the last time that they can do this EVER!!. Your Union is denying them this possibly last pleasure!!. Initially, you had my sympathy, but sorry, not now!!. Because of the Christmas strike.
So the strike starts at 1800 on Saturday 24th and ends at 0600 27th. That means trains can operate during the day and wind down late afternoon. As it is a Saturday, those travelling are less likely to be working so hopefully they can get earlier trains and get where they need to be. Yes it is inconvenient and annoying but the union have called this because of the works over the Christmas shut down which effectively started from 2200 on Xmas eve.

Now some of the service provided by train operators on the 24th appears to be extremely poor and I can't see how this can be blamed on the strike. An example is the latest you can do Edinburgh - London is 1012 departure from Edinburgh via Carlisle. I can't see a reason for no direct train to London from Edinburgh in the early afternoon via York. It seems the train operators are giving up on the service and the blame is being deflected onto the strikes.

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Re: Royal Mail

Post by C24 » Tue Jan 17, 2023 8:11 am

🇺🇦 🌻 🇺🇦

Postal deliveries.
As there seems to be fewer letters in the system due to electronic delivery of information, why not offer delivery 🚚 on alternate days. Monday, Wednesday, Friday or Tuesday, Thursday , Saturday.
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Re: Royal Mail

Post by plmc135 » Tue Jan 17, 2023 8:25 am

Would be better if they could stop delivering more junk mail than genuine post :grr:

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Re: Royal Mail

Post by binbrook32 » Tue Jan 17, 2023 5:46 pm

C24 wrote:
Tue Jan 17, 2023 8:11 am
🇺🇦 🌻 🇺🇦

Postal deliveries.
As there seems to be fewer letters in the system due to electronic delivery of information, why not offer delivery 🚚 on alternate days. Monday, Wednesday, Friday or Tuesday, Thursday , Saturday.
I think my local Royal Mail delivery depot is already working on that basis.

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Re: Royal Mail

Post by paddyboy » Wed Jan 18, 2023 5:08 am

I can assure you that Posties do NOT want the onerous task of sorting/delivering households or door-to-doors (what you call junk mail) but have no choice in the matter, as those contracts are all pre- paid to RM :grr:

Some weeks, up to 7 items are pushed onto them, and they MUST be delivered :grr:
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Re: Royal Mail

Post by jonnewell » Fri Jan 20, 2023 4:36 pm

Don't waste your time Paddy trying to inform The Sun/Daily Mail/Torygraph readers what Posties have to endure on a daily basis .
Suggest they go on YouTube and check out what the CEO Simon Thompson told to the Parliamentary Committee.
Watch it and you decide...

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Re: Royal Mail

Post by mhm » Sun Jan 22, 2023 1:30 am

Loved it when worked in South Africa. No letter boxes on houses. Every house had a mail box at the sorting post office you had your own keys and collected yourself.
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Re: Royal Mail

Post by iainpeden » Mon Feb 13, 2023 11:00 am

I was surprised to get letter post delivered by RM yesterday (Sunday); there was also an RM van out delivering parcels.

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Re: Royal Mail

Post by baz1 » Mon Feb 13, 2023 1:47 pm

iainpeden wrote:
Mon Feb 13, 2023 11:00 am
I was surprised to get letter post delivered by RM yesterday (Sunday); there was also an RM van out delivering parcels.
my postie told me they deliver tracked parcels on a Sunday
Always get my post /parcels on time my postie is a great guy and got a nice tip at Xmas :thumbs:
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Re: Royal Mail

Post by MrBlueSky » Mon Feb 13, 2023 3:56 pm

Just let Evri start delivering your mail, and you will really appreciate how good the lads and girls are on Royal Mail- If the bosses from the Royal Mail and the Train Companies get their way the workers won't get paid when they are sick, will get no paid holidays and will have to work 7 days a week.

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Re: Royal Mail

Post by Pune » Mon Feb 13, 2023 4:05 pm

We are getting letters and other post delivered on a Sunday now, not sure if it's clearing a backlog or new working practise, but very welcome,
Royal mail staff do a fantastic job, long may they continue.
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Re: Royal Mail

Post by mhm » Mon Feb 13, 2023 11:25 pm

Would prefer to go back in time no shops on Sundays only paper shops half day Wednesday. Supermarkets being greedy by opening all sorts of hours. Like post on Sundays. Weekends are rest days.
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Re: Royal Mail

Post by Nighthawke » Tue Feb 14, 2023 12:21 am

Shops open on Sundays due to customer demand. The world has changed since 1970.

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Re: Royal Mail

Post by Pune » Tue Feb 14, 2023 9:58 am

mhm wrote:
Mon Feb 13, 2023 11:25 pm
Would prefer to go back in time no shops on Sundays only paper shops half day Wednesday. Supermarkets being greedy by opening all sorts of hours. Like post on Sundays. Weekends are rest days.
Rest days!! :Wow:
I was a firefighter for 25 years, Sunday is just another day, as it is for doctors, nurses, paramedics, ambulance drivers, police, the list could go on.
If you can keep your head whilst all around are losing theirs, you have probably completely misread the situation!!

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