The Ukraine Situation

[colp]

I think you messed up by misreading it, they never said 52 voted against.
193 members
141 for
5 against
35 abstain
Don't know what status the other 12 hold... presumably not present.

Thanks for clearing that up Ayrforce1. What significance the vote has in the grand scheme of things anyway I'm not sure of!

Countries voting against UN General Assembly resolution:

- Belarus
- Eritrea
- North Korea
- Russia
- Syria

No surprises to the countries voting against. Just a shame countries like India can't grow a pair and condemn the attack and instead sit on the fence.

[pg1610]

Thanks for clearing that up Ayrforce1. What significance the vote has in the grand scheme of things anyway I'm not sure of!

Countries voting against UN General Assembly resolution:

- Belarus
- Eritrea
- North Korea
- Russia
- Syria

No surprises to the countries voting against. Just a shame countries like India can't grow a pair and condemn the attack and instead sit on the fence.

To be fair an abstention is almost as good as a vote for the motion, and a lot of the countries that do abstain usually do so whatever the vote
it still sends a message we are not with you

[baz1]

what i cant understand is this long Russian convoy supposedly stuck why on earth are they not attacked and blown up is beyond me surely now Ukraine have the aircraft to do it or drones

[Blackcat1]

Pity the Ukrainians didnt have some A10s, they'd have a field day . Brrrrrrrrrrrrrtttt!!

[colp]

I think we're all probably thinking the same thing to be honest! Maybe they have tried but been unsuccessful one way or another, who knows!

[baz1]

Pity the Ukrainians didnt have some A10s, they'd have a field day . Brrrrrrrrrrrrrtttt!!

yes and AC-130 Spectre

[colp]

I see Mr. Puppet Lavrov is fuming!

[pg1610]

what i cant understand is this long Russian convoy supposedly stuck why on earth are they not attacked and blown up is beyond me surely now Ukraine have the aircraft to do it or drones

IF this convoy is as long as the media say it is, there is a fairly good chance the front/rear elements are being attacked , hence the slow progress, , It is strange that media outlets have not gone looking for it, and likewise the Ukraine Government are not pushing pictures of the destruction they must be handing out on it

Drones etc would be a relatively easy target to pick off by Russian air defence units on something this big, they are better employed against smaller pockets of Armour etc

Just as easy for the local population militias, freedom fighters, resistance fighters etc to go out with small arms, grenades and petrol bombs , they could inflict an awful lot of damage to a static convoy, especially the soft skinned support vehicles

[Malcolm]

what i cant understand is this long Russian convoy supposedly stuck why on earth are they not attacked and blown up is beyond me surely now Ukraine have the aircraft to do it or drones

There is considerable doubt that the transfer of Mig-29s and Su-25s ever happened. All the European nations that operate those types have basically backed away from the EU statement. Even if some aircraft have been transferred, it's unlikely to be more than a handful so far. There are dozens in store in Hungary, Romania and even in Ukraine itself, but getting these airworthy quickly is likely impossible.

The convoy is also within range of Russian SA400 SAM batteries believed to be in in southern Belorussia. A Mig-29, Su-25 (or A-10 for that matter) would be cannon fodder to the SA400. Buying the SA400 is the reason Turkey has been thrown out of the F-35 program.

IMV Drones are the way to go, but initial reports were that the Ukrainians only had about 20 of the Turkish built Bayraktar TB2 drones at the start of the conflict. They are supposed to have received more this week, but realistically they're going to need dozens if not hundreds of the things to make a difference.

[baz1]

just read on Yahoo news that a Russian businessman has put a $1m Bounty on Putins head and urged Military officers to bring him to justice

[Pune]

just read on Yahoo news that a Russian businessman has put a $1m Bounty on Putins head and urged Military officers to bring him to justice

If true that is great news and I think that will be how his demise will come eventually, we live in hope.

[colp]

The danger is he might decide to do something drastic at the first sign if things look to be going that badly against him. Why someone would put this if true in the public domain is beyond me, so not sure how true it is.

[Col Nago]

what i cant understand is this long Russian convoy supposedly stuck why on earth are they not attacked and blown up is beyond me surely now Ukraine have the aircraft to do it or drones

IF this convoy is as long as the media say it is, there is a fairly good chance the front/rear elements are being attacked , hence the slow progress, , It is strange that media outlets have not gone looking for it, and likewise the Ukraine Government are not pushing pictures of the destruction they must be handing out on it

Drones etc would be a relatively easy target to pick off by Russian air defence units on something this big, they are better employed against smaller pockets of Armour etc

Just as easy for the local population militias, freedom fighters, resistance fighters etc to go out with small arms, grenades and petrol bombs , they could inflict an awful lot of damage to a static convoy, especially the soft skinned support vehicles

The morning UK MOD briefing states that the convoy is at a total standstill, vehicles have broken down / run out of fuel, there's severe congestion, and it's being hit by Ukrainian resistance.

https://twitter.com/DefenceHQ/status/14 ... 4407314437

Mud season in Ukraine is now well under way too - so if they go off the roads they're in trouble. The weather is also really bad at the moment - so Russian air cover will be even less of a factor.

If the launchers and guns can't get any supplies soon they will go silent, and I'm sure that Russia hasn't got an infinite supply of cruise missiles. It's not 1943 with thousands of factories back in the Motherland churning out ammunition and tanks.

Different story in the south and east - but they're tied up trying to take ground = more ammunition and materiel spent. Then they need to try and push west...

[C24]

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Over the last few days during daylight there have been 2-3 tankers flying circuits. I haven’t noticed anything tanking. Would an F-35 show if in formation?

Any info about Chinooks based in Ramstein, special forces?

Stay safe

[Canberra TT.18]

what i cant understand is this long Russian convoy supposedly stuck why on earth are they not attacked and blown up is beyond me surely now Ukraine have the aircraft to do it or drones

IF this convoy is as long as the media say it is, there is a fairly good chance the front/rear elements are being attacked , hence the slow progress, , It is strange that media outlets have not gone looking for it, and likewise the Ukraine Government are not pushing pictures of the destruction they must be handing out on it

Drones etc would be a relatively easy target to pick off by Russian air defence units on something this big, they are better employed against smaller pockets of Armour etc

Just as easy for the local population militias, freedom fighters, resistance fighters etc to go out with small arms, grenades and petrol bombs , they could inflict an awful lot of damage to a static convoy, especially the soft skinned support vehicles

The morning UK MOD briefing states that the convoy is at a total standstill, vehicles have broken down / run out of fuel, there's severe congestion, and it's being hit by Ukrainian resistance.

https://twitter.com/DefenceHQ/status/14 ... 4407314437

Mud season in Ukraine is now well under way too - so if they go off the roads they're in trouble. The weather is also really bad at the moment - so Russian air cover will be even less of a factor.

If the launchers and guns can't get any supplies soon they will go silent, and I'm sure that Russia hasn't got an infinite supply of cruise missiles. It's not 1943 with thousands of factories back in the Motherland churning out ammunition and tanks.

Different story in the south and east - but they're tied up trying to take ground = more ammunition and materiel spent. Then they need to try and push west...

Some info regarding vehicles and tyres!

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1499 ... 02944.html

[Col Nago]

IF this convoy is as long as the media say it is, there is a fairly good chance the front/rear elements are being attacked , hence the slow progress, , It is strange that media outlets have not gone looking for it, and likewise the Ukraine Government are not pushing pictures of the destruction they must be handing out on it

Drones etc would be a relatively easy target to pick off by Russian air defence units on something this big, they are better employed against smaller pockets of Armour etc

Just as easy for the local population militias, freedom fighters, resistance fighters etc to go out with small arms, grenades and petrol bombs , they could inflict an awful lot of damage to a static convoy, especially the soft skinned support vehicles

The morning UK MOD briefing states that the convoy is at a total standstill, vehicles have broken down / run out of fuel, there's severe congestion, and it's being hit by Ukrainian resistance.

https://twitter.com/DefenceHQ/status/14 ... 4407314437

Mud season in Ukraine is now well under way too - so if they go off the roads they're in trouble. The weather is also really bad at the moment - so Russian air cover will be even less of a factor.

If the launchers and guns can't get any supplies soon they will go silent, and I'm sure that Russia hasn't got an infinite supply of cruise missiles. It's not 1943 with thousands of factories back in the Motherland churning out ammunition and tanks.

Different story in the south and east - but they're tied up trying to take ground = more ammunition and materiel spent. Then they need to try and push west...

Some info regarding vehicles and tyres!

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1499 ... 02944.html

I was following that thread on twitter yesterday. Cheap Chinese tyres amongst other issue!

[baz1]

The danger is he might decide to do something drastic at the first sign if things look to be going that badly against him. Why someone would put this if true in the public domain is beyond me, so not sure how true it is.

it was posted on Linkedln by Entrepreneur Alex Konanykhin who was granted Political Ayslum in the States years ago

[colp]

I wonder if Macron is the only leader that is talking to Putin still! Must be like talking to a brick wall.

[baz1]

Imran Khan as been to see Putin and signed a deal for importing Gas and Grain despite what is going in Ukraine

[colp]

Unbelievable!