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Re: trump

Post by cat1 » Mon Feb 17, 2025 11:11 am

Jazz wrote:
Sun Feb 16, 2025 7:52 pm
Tally-ho wrote:
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warthog81 wrote:
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Hurn wrote:
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Well said Sir :clap:

As in the US, we have the common sense silent majority and the screaming emotional ranters LOL :roll:
its standard stuff.

if you disagree with the right, they respect your opinions and celebrate the fact you can HAVE an opinion.

if you disagree with the left, your immediately a horrible person and a Nazi and a communist and instantaneously called stupid liars with absolutely nothing to back it up apart from "your just wrong."

As quoted earlier, silent majority! :roll: :clap:

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Re: trump

Post by James Cutting » Mon Feb 17, 2025 11:15 am

*You're ;)

And nobody here has said that, but you twist how you want to twist it :thumb: Again, it's another non answer as to what good he has done (even in his first 4 years) or is going to do. :whistle:
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Re: trump

Post by warthog81 » Mon Feb 17, 2025 2:13 pm

I think he is the greatest President in US history and possibly the greatest western leader of all time. Republican leaders tend to be better but this Republican leader is better than them all!
Hopefully 8 years of Vance to follow!

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Re: trump

Post by quid21 » Mon Feb 17, 2025 2:27 pm

warthog81 wrote:
Mon Feb 17, 2025 2:13 pm
I think he is the greatest President in US history and possibly the greatest western leader of all time. Republican leaders tend to be better but this Republican leader is better than them all!
Hopefully 8 years of Vance to follow!
Yes criminals make the best leaders don't they.

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Re: trump

Post by NorvilleRogers » Mon Feb 17, 2025 2:31 pm

warthog81 wrote:
Mon Feb 17, 2025 2:13 pm
I think he is the greatest President in US history and possibly the greatest western leader of all time. Republican leaders tend to be better but this Republican leader is better than them all!
Hopefully 8 years of Vance to follow!
Hilarious, please keep them coming.. great laugh for an otherwise dull Monday. But please check your medication I think it might need adjusting.

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Re: trump

Post by quid21 » Mon Feb 17, 2025 2:39 pm

warthog81 wrote:
Mon Feb 17, 2025 2:13 pm
I think he is the greatest President in US history and possibly the greatest western leader of all time. Republican leaders tend to be better but this Republican leader is better than them all!
Hopefully 8 years of Vance to follow!
You should be asking yourself - if Trump secures peace who exactly will be peace keeping the line? Europeans who weren't at the negotiating table, yet who provided Ukraine with more money and equipment than the US did? Or US troops, which Hegseth ruled out peace keeping in Ukraine?

We, the Europeans will be left to pick up the pieces of this crooked businessman who thinks he knows how to make deals - yet why should we - if we are not being involved.

You may think he is great, but wait until prices have gone up over the tarrifs which US consumers will have to pay. Clearly the trump voting US taxpayers have no idea that tariffs are actually paid by consumers of the products through price hikes from the manufacturers who have to factor in the tariffs.

Trump is setting the world up for the biggest period of destabilisation since WW2, but thats okay, he'll be dead by then.

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Re: trump

Post by warthog81 » Mon Feb 17, 2025 2:45 pm

quid21 wrote:
Mon Feb 17, 2025 2:39 pm
warthog81 wrote:
Mon Feb 17, 2025 2:13 pm
I think he is the greatest President in US history and possibly the greatest western leader of all time. Republican leaders tend to be better but this Republican leader is better than them all!
Hopefully 8 years of Vance to follow!
You should be asking yourself - if Trump secures peace who exactly will be peace keeping the line? Europeans who weren't at the negotiating table, yet who provided Ukraine with more money and equipment than the US did? Or US troops, which Hegseth ruled out peace keeping in Ukraine?

We, the Europeans will be left to pick up the pieces of this crooked businessman who thinks he knows how to make deals - yet why should we - if we are not being involved.

You may think he is great, but wait until prices have gone up over the tarrifs which US consumers will have to pay. Clearly the trump voting US taxpayers have no idea that tariffs are actually paid by consumers of the products through price hikes from the manufacturers who have to factor in the tariffs.

Trump is setting the world up for the biggest period of destabilisation since WW2, but thats okay, he'll be dead by then.
In my opinion Britain should not deploy forces to Ukraine, we should not be involved at all. We are the far side of the continent so should keep out of it. There are so many domestic problems here the government needs to be dealing with.

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Re: trump

Post by James Cutting » Mon Feb 17, 2025 2:46 pm

Still can't provide solid reasoning why he is the "Greatest".
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Re: trump

Post by Nighthawke » Mon Feb 17, 2025 3:03 pm

Because there isn't any James - simples! Except when the word precedes a more negative word or phrase.

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Re: trump

Post by James Cutting » Mon Feb 17, 2025 3:09 pm

I know :) But hey, he's the greatest, he can talk, and he won by a "landslide" ;)
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Re: trump

Post by slogen51 » Tue Feb 25, 2025 10:10 am

It's a Mad World !

On the issue of the Ukraine America seems to be Aligned with Russia, North Korea and Belarus!??

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Re: trump

Post by slogen51 » Fri Feb 28, 2025 6:25 pm

Jeez!! Trump losing his temper with Zelensky live on TV at the Whitehouse and Vance weighing in

Putin must be laughing - this how Putin works - divide and conquer

America unwilling to provide a security guarantee in the event of a cease fire

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Re: trump

Post by slogen51 » Sun Mar 02, 2025 12:05 pm

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Trump Vs Zelensky ( or the World!)

Keep it sensible this isn't the House of Commons!

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Re: trump

Post by slogen51 » Sun Mar 02, 2025 12:08 pm

I can see that Trump makes a serious point - nobody wants World War III

But is surrender to Russia because 'Russia has all the ards' the right way to go about it?

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Re: trump

Post by Tally-ho » Sun Mar 02, 2025 12:32 pm

slogen51 wrote:
Sun Mar 02, 2025 12:08 pm
I can see that Trump makes a serious point - nobody wants World War III

But is surrender to Russia because 'Russia has all the ards' the right way to go about it?
The cards are held by Trump and Putin. Trump because the US singularly holds the decisive hard power in military capabilities. Putin because the Russians can outlast the Ukrainians in simple numbers, numbers of conscript boots on the ground.

Zelensky has no cards. Without US military muscle they are nothing. The bits and pieces supplied by the UK and others are totally inadequate for the needs of Ukraine's fields of death. Reference the current meeting at Lancaster House to try and find a Plan B.

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Re: trump

Post by slogen51 » Sun Mar 02, 2025 12:43 pm

"Without US military muscle they are nothing"

They have about 34 million citizens the vast majority of whom want to live in a sovereign country - Ukraine

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Re: trump

Post by Tally-ho » Sun Mar 02, 2025 12:49 pm

slogen51 wrote:
Sun Mar 02, 2025 12:43 pm
"Without US military muscle they are nothing"

They have about 34 million citizens the vast majority of whom want to live in a sovereign country - Ukraine
My reference is to the Ukraine's military capabilities, not sovereignty. I fully grant them their quest for sovereignty.

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Re: trump

Post by KevinJ » Sun Mar 02, 2025 12:55 pm

Trump's version of peace is unacceptable to any right thinking nation, bullying Ukraine and plotting with Putin to carve up the country so they both gain out of Russia's invasion is not brokering peace. The appaling treatment of Zelensky in the Oval Office proved how far apart they are, and as Zelensky said, they're not playing cards.

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Re: trump

Post by KevinJ » Sun Mar 02, 2025 12:58 pm

Let's be clear here, Ukraine removed all their nuclear capability in 1994 on the strict understanding that it guaranteed America would protect their sovereignty and defend them. Trump is breaking that promise.

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Re: trump

Post by Tally-ho » Sun Mar 02, 2025 1:10 pm

KevinJ wrote:
Sun Mar 02, 2025 12:55 pm
Trump's version of peace is unacceptable to any right thinking nation, bullying Ukraine and plotting with Putin to carve up the country so they both gain out of Russia's invasion is not brokering peace. The appaling treatment of Zelensky in the Oval Office proved how far apart they are, and as Zelensky said, they're not playing cards.
"Trump's version of peace" is of such magnitude, and so consequential, that even Sir Keir and other world leaders are having to scrabble around for a Plan B. You have to understand that Trump and US military muscle are vital for Ukraine's survival - the 'backstop' as Sir Keir calls it.

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