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Reds to Lossie?
Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2024 7:47 pm
by reaper493
Evening all,
Rumours floating around Waddington that the Reds are up to Lossie for two weeks starting 19th February, with practices to be conducted over Tain Range.
Not seen any NOTAMs published for it as of yet, if true!
Re: Reds to Lossie?
Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2024 2:52 pm
by gamecock
I believe so. I'd expect Lossie FB page to confirm sooner rather than later
Re: Reds to Lossie?
Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2024 9:42 am
by reaper493
Route north on the 19th
H0648/24 (Issued for EGTT EGPX) - FORMATION TRANSIT BY MULTIPLE ACFT ROUTING:
530958N 0003126W RAF WADDINGTON 0900 FL270
530728N 0002046W W OF MARTIN 0902 FL270
534837N 0004246W W OF SOUTH CLIFFE 0909 FL270
552737N 0014047W NE OF ALNWICK 0925 FL270
563247N 0023631W VCY OF ARBROATH 0937 500FT
563137N 0031959W SW OF COUPAR ARGUS 0941 500FT
564252N 0034956W LOCH TUMMEL 0944 500FT
564111N 0043537W N OF LOCH LAIDON 0948 500FT
565413N 0045852W NW OF SPEAN BRIDGE 0951 500FT
572419N 0042004W N OF LOCH NESS 0958 500FT
574225N 0032011W RAF LOSSIEMOUTH 1004 500FT
ACFT EXPECTED TO TRANSIT BTN 250FT AGL-FL270. TIMINGS, HGT AND
ROUTE ARE APRX AND SUBJ TO CHANGE. FOR INFO 01522 726707.
AR-2024-826/AU1.
Route home on the 22nd
H0647/24 (Issued for EGTT EGPX) - FORMATION TRANSIT BY MULTIPLE ACFT ROUTING:
574218N 0032021W RAF LOSSIEMOUTH 1530 500FT
573714N 0031138W SE OF ELGIN 1532 500FT
564500N 0042803W S OF LOCH ERICHT 1543 500FT
560051N 0051959W SE OF LOCHGILPHEAD 1552 FL190
552922N 0051526W SE OF BLACKWATERFOOT 1557 FL190
544320N 0034433W OVERSEA 1607 FL190
544233N 0024105W NE OF PENRITH 1612 FL190
543923N 0020101W NE OF MIDDLETON IN TEESDALE 1615 FL190
543635N 0013753W S OF SHILDON 1617 FL190
530958N 0003126W RAF WADDINGTON 1632
ACFT EXPECTED TO TRANSIT BTN 250FT AGL-FL190. TIMINGS, HGT AND
ROUTE ARE APRX AND SUBJ TO CHANGE. FOR INFO 01522 726707.
AR-2024-827/AU1. SFC - FL190, 22 FEB 15:30 2024 UNTIL 22 FEB 16:32 2024. CREATED:
14 FEB 14:51 2024
Full routes and times to/from Tain are available via various NOTAM sites if you want them.
Mike
Re: Reds to Lossie?
Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2024 5:40 pm
by Thunder
Anyone able to produce the route in the form of a map, many thanks.
Re: Reds to Lossie?
Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2024 7:37 pm
by reaper493
New Notam for Monday, same route but +30 mins later.
As for a route 'John Smith' - whoever he is has posted something in the WAVE group with a rough map, but it's point to point. The last 7 points up there are all at 500ft, the rest 27,000.
Re: Reds to Lossie?
Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2024 7:52 pm
by Thunder
How does one find and access this ‘WAVE group’?
Re: Reds to Lossie?
Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2024 10:46 pm
by Morayhandyman
Can I assume which maybe a mistake that the Reds are only here from 19/02-22/02 and not 2 weeks ??
Re: Reds to Lossie?
Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2024 12:23 am
by Thunder
How is it that when I try and plot these coordinates I get a location in the middle of the North Sea??
572419N 0042004W N OF LOCH NESS 0958 500FT
Re: Reds to Lossie?
Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2024 12:37 am
by Nighthawke
If you are using degrees, minutes and seconds you will need a minus sign for the "Eastings" as it is west - if that makes sense. I've just tied it and it comes up almost at the top of Loch Ness. Converts to 57.40528 -4.33444 decimal value.
Hope that helps.
Re: Reds to Lossie?
Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2024 3:07 am
by Thunder
It certainly does, thanks.
Re: Reds to Lossie?
Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2024 8:20 am
by reaper493
Thunder wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 7:52 pm
How does one find and access this ‘WAVE group’?
It's on Facebook
Re: Reds to Lossie?
Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2024 8:21 am
by reaper493
Morayhandyman wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 10:46 pm
Can I assume which maybe a mistake that the Reds are only here from 19/02-22/02 and not 2 weeks ??
Original rumour suggested two weeks, Notam confirms it's only 4 days.
Potentially only a handful of jets rather than the full compliment.
Re: Reds to Lossie?
Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2024 9:20 am
by reaper493
Red Arrows on start at Waddington - just the five aircraft going.
All are duel except Red 3.
Re: Reds to Lossie?
Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2024 11:09 am
by AyrForce1
Thunder wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 5:40 pm
Anyone able to produce the route in the form of a map, many thanks.
https://www.metcheck.com/SEASONAL/red_arrows.asp
(currently showing the Tain map route for later today)
(also shown at
https://notaminfo.com/ukmap)
Re: Reds to Lossie?
Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2024 5:24 pm
by Thunder
I’ve seen mention on other sites that it was two formations that headed North today? I saw the formation of 5 a/c that went past Inverness at 1029 as per the 2nd NOTAM, was there another formation before that?
Re: Reds to Lossie?
Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2024 6:26 pm
by reaper493
Only 5 jets left Waddo, so unless they did a circuit somewhere?
Re: Reds to Lossie?
Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2024 7:07 pm
by Thunder
Thanks for clarifying. I think the other websites seen the two NOTAMs and put two and two together and got ten
Re: Reds to Lossie?
Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2024 4:13 pm
by Jiminic
Have the Reds left Lossie today (Thursday) Thanks
Re: Reds to Lossie?
Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2024 4:26 pm
by np1991
Crew has just walked to the hawks
Re: Reds to Lossie?
Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2024 5:06 pm
by reaper493
Up now - rumours here that one has gone u/s?
Any one see how many left?
