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Hi all. I am from Northern Ireland and will be holidaying at Aviemore from 29th June to 13th July. We always spend a day spotting at Lossie and I notice that Families Day is Thursday 4th July. Can anyone tell me if it is a good or bad idea to head up on this date, (I'm thinking that there will be very little flying although the Reds are displaying I think) will the place be crowded around the base? Are there extra restrictions on stopping? I usually spot from the layby near the windsock beside the pig farm, good views of taxiing for runway 05. Would I be better going up the day before?
Any advice from locals or regular spotters would be very much appreciated.
Thanks in advance, Phil.

Hi Sonic
Normally additional restriction on parking etc, No idea on flying schedule as not seen or heard anything, To be honest right now there is so little flying your not missing much we get a few Typhoons up but it very quiet but think a lot is to do with the works that are taking place hope this helps

With No 1 Sqn away in Cyprus, No 2 Sqn on post Cyprus leave, you are only going to see 6 Sqn & 9 Sqn active. 6 Sqn usually put up two 4 ship waves per day and 9 Sqn two 2 ship waves. And that,s about your lot. Lots of Simulator time for the crews these days reduces the flying task. Hardly any visitors and no PDs at all.
Lossiemouth if they follow 2018 will request a local no parking zone to be put in place within the boundary of the flying display area. Although nothing has yet to appear on the fence where we usually go. It will probably be in place a couple of weeks before the event. But in 2018 the local police didn't really enforce the notice at all and the RAF Police have no jurisdiction outside the fence, so if you come up and its the RAF Police that try to move you on, just very politely decline their request.

Thanks guys that was very helpful, I don't think I'll put myself out then to get up there for Families Day, probably just take the kids to Lossie beach on a sunny day instead........hope we get a few!!

The flying display will be in the time frame of 1300-1500 Local. RAF Falcons parachute display team, followed by solo Typhoon display, and then the Red Arrows.

The roads around the Southern and Western perimeters will be closed, as will the tracks around the RWY23 threshold. The road from Lossiemouth to Covesea will be open but with no stopping allowed. High tide will also be around then so not much beach to access either.

Whilst you might wish to ignore the RAF Police directions, the Display Director will stop flying if there are members of the public in any of the risk areas identified, such as Runway threshold areas. Anyone doing so and exercising their ‘rights’ won’t be too popular with the friends and families I expect

Why should there be any need to close roads at all? This only seems to be a phenomenon of recent years. Health and Safety gone mad again?

Taken from Moray Council website:

RAF Lossiemouth Friends and Families Day
Thursday 4 July 2019
Road Restrictions – Various Roads in Lossiemouth

Road Closures

Road Grid Ref.


U40E Drainie Road (From junction B9135Muirton Road to junction
(x6) U38E Covesea Road)
(12:30hrs - 15:00hrs) 319122, 867997 to 322153, 868578

B9135 Muirton – Lossiemouth Road (From junction A941 Elgin – Lossiemouth Road
(x6) to junction Coulardbank Road)
(12:30hrs - 15:00hrs) 322307,869700 to 322385,868734

C24E Elgin to Westerfolds Road (At Junction U40E Drainie Road)
(x6) 319989, 868012 to 319849,868324
(12:30hrs - 15:00hrs)

B9040 Hopeman - Lossiemouth Road (At junction with U38E to junction with B9135) (To (x6) allow Police to manage traffic)
(12:30hrs - 15:00hrs) 318927,870464 to 322281, 870348

U38E Covesea Road (At junction with U40E Drainie Road, to junction (x6) B9040 Hopeman – Lossiemouth Road)
(12:30hrs - 15:00hrs) 319123, 868005 to 318921, 870461


Prohibition of Waiting


Road Grid Ref.

U40E Drainie Road (From junction B9135 Muirton Road to junction (x6) U38E Covesea Road)
(10:00hrs - 17:00hrs) 319122, 867997 to 322153, 868578

B9040 Hopeman - Lossiemouth Road (From Plewlands to junction B9135 Muirton Road)
(x6) 317654, 869921 to 322349, 870238
(08:00hrs - 17:00hrs)

C24E Elgin to Westerfolds Road (At Junction with U40E Drainie Road)
(x6) 319989, 868012 to 319849,868324
(10:00hrs - 17:00hrs)

B9135 Muirton – Lossiemouth Road (From junction A941 Elgin – Lossiemouth Road
(x6) to junction Coulardbank Road)
(10:00hrs - 17:00hrs) 322307,869700 to 322385,868734

U38E Covesea Road (At junction U40E Drainie Road, to junction
(x6) B9040 Hopeman – Lossiemouth Road)
(10:00hrs - 17:00hrs) 319123, 868005 to 318921, 870461

And all that palaver for a Typhoon and a handful of Hawks! Absolutely crazy and well over the top!

Anyone know what the timings are for Thursday?
Can't find anything but then looking at the weather will anything display ??

Don't know any timings.
NOTAM for Red Arrows display gave period between 1200 and 1400. For the parachute display 1145 to 1230. No time known for Typhoon display.

Thanks Al
Just wondered if was any more info anywhere based on the weather being so rubbish

Lossie Facebook posted this morning that display times will be published after met breif

np1991 wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 04, 2019 8:04 am

Lossie Facebook posted this morning that display times will be published after met breif

Liam reckons we would be better sitting in the pub watching Toy Story 4

he's probably not wrong

From fb post:
Typhoon 1330
Reds 1400

Reds just transited above Boulmer approx 1100

Attendees
Bravo Hard
Typhoons ZK332 (6 Sqn Mkgs) & ZK434 (unmkd)
Spitfire Vb FSM BR954

Lima Hard
P-8A 169332-PD VP9
Hawk T.2 ZK029-FE 25 Sqn
Tucano T.1 ZF142 1 FTS
Bowers Fly Baby 1A G-EFRP

Charlie Hard
Typhoon ZJ920 (Display jet)
Typhoon ZK426 (local jet and was the spare)

Delta Hard
Red Arrows in landing order
T.1A XX322
T.1A XX219
T.1 XX232
T.1 XX242
T.1 XX177
T.1 XX244
T.1A XX319
T.1 XX245
T.1A XX188

Morayvia sent their Canberra TT.18 WJ721, I saw it on the road but not on base, so I assume it was inside a Hangar.

All noted from the 23 End Track

Thanks for log. Better attendees at the families day than I first thought.

I take it that was the display jet roaring over elgin a while ago?

Thanks Bluetail for the log . The Typhoons on B hard were ZK332 ( 6 sqdn marks ) & ZK434 ( no marks ) , both 1 sqdn , & the 2 on C hard were ZJ920 & ZK428 ( both no marks ) of 29 sqdn Coningsby .

The spare typhoon was ZK426