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June Movements
Re: June Movements
Weds 19/6/19 cont/d
Dev typh up @ 1543L "WTN10". Heard operating a "towline" pattern just off coast/edge of Fylde coast; recovered into Warton overhead (1704L) & descended to join high downwind; t/g 1707L & landed 1710L. Possibly ZK303/AX (BT017) not on mode-S but looked like a twin-seat from limited views I had of it from home.
(C-47A/DC-3C N47E "Miss Virginia" wearing original USAAF mks 0-30655, routed from Salzburg to Prestwick but too far north & east for me to spot - Not even a glint off its highly polished "Ally" fuselage :-) At 8000ft similar route over Settle area & Nth Lakes etc. Dep SZG 1218BST and was descending over Dunfries area at 1831L!)
Dev typh up @ 1543L "WTN10". Heard operating a "towline" pattern just off coast/edge of Fylde coast; recovered into Warton overhead (1704L) & descended to join high downwind; t/g 1707L & landed 1710L. Possibly ZK303/AX (BT017) not on mode-S but looked like a twin-seat from limited views I had of it from home.
(C-47A/DC-3C N47E "Miss Virginia" wearing original USAAF mks 0-30655, routed from Salzburg to Prestwick but too far north & east for me to spot - Not even a glint off its highly polished "Ally" fuselage :-) At 8000ft similar route over Settle area & Nth Lakes etc. Dep SZG 1218BST and was descending over Dunfries area at 1831L!)
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Re: June Movements
19/6/19
09:28L - ZF343/LOP23 (Tucano T.1/72R Sqn) ILS/Overshoot R.25
15:12L - ZK037 (Hawk T.1/IV Sqn) ILS/Overshoot x2
OTT/Local
11:30L - ZZ383/Carbon10 (Wildcat AH.1/AAC) Heading North Following M6 @1kft
15:48L - MM62186 (C-130J Hercules/Italian AF) Routing SE @35k ft. Seen and Heard.
09:28L - ZF343/LOP23 (Tucano T.1/72R Sqn) ILS/Overshoot R.25
15:12L - ZK037 (Hawk T.1/IV Sqn) ILS/Overshoot x2
OTT/Local
11:30L - ZZ383/Carbon10 (Wildcat AH.1/AAC) Heading North Following M6 @1kft
15:48L - MM62186 (C-130J Hercules/Italian AF) Routing SE @35k ft. Seen and Heard.
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Re: June Movements
21/6/19
09:24L - ZF347 (Tucano T.1/72R Sqn) ILS/Overshoot
14:41L - ZK303/WTN69 (T.3/AX/BT017) Seen on slow descent over Blackpool on RTB to Warton
14:48L - ZK029/FE (Hawk T.2/XXV Sqn) ILS/Overshoot then to Liverpool to ILS/Overshoot
OTT/Local
13:43 - G-BYXO/Vital01 & G-B***/Vital02 (G.115e/RAF) Seen over Blackpool/Warton area in tight 'Trail' formation
09:24L - ZF347 (Tucano T.1/72R Sqn) ILS/Overshoot
14:41L - ZK303/WTN69 (T.3/AX/BT017) Seen on slow descent over Blackpool on RTB to Warton
14:48L - ZK029/FE (Hawk T.2/XXV Sqn) ILS/Overshoot then to Liverpool to ILS/Overshoot
OTT/Local
13:43 - G-BYXO/Vital01 & G-B***/Vital02 (G.115e/RAF) Seen over Blackpool/Warton area in tight 'Trail' formation
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Re: June Movements
Fri 21/6/19 cont/d
ZK303/AX (BT017) "WTN69" seen on climb out off rwy 25 @ 1300L. Fitted with white "ACMI/GPS" pod on R/H ITSPL (integrated tip stub pylon launcher) plus a targeting pod on centreline.
Seen in a left hand racetrack pattern over Lytham area from1435L approx after higher altitude runs in from west towards Warton and back out (1430L). Seen in descent just off Lytham @ 1441L & landed 1443L.
The second grob of "Vital" form was G-BYUL; yesterday afternoon (1625L) there was a 3-ship up heading nth with 'XO lead and 'UL & 'VI in echelon each side.
Cheers
ZK303/AX (BT017) "WTN69" seen on climb out off rwy 25 @ 1300L. Fitted with white "ACMI/GPS" pod on R/H ITSPL (integrated tip stub pylon launcher) plus a targeting pod on centreline.
Seen in a left hand racetrack pattern over Lytham area from1435L approx after higher altitude runs in from west towards Warton and back out (1430L). Seen in descent just off Lytham @ 1441L & landed 1443L.
The second grob of "Vital" form was G-BYUL; yesterday afternoon (1625L) there was a 3-ship up heading nth with 'XO lead and 'UL & 'VI in echelon each side.
Cheers
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Re: June Movements
24/6/19
ZJ700/IPA5 Parked O/S 358H
10:15 ish - ZK031/VYT53 (Hawk T.2/IV Sqn) ILS/Overshoot
ZJ700/IPA5 Parked O/S 358H
10:15 ish - ZK031/VYT53 (Hawk T.2/IV Sqn) ILS/Overshoot
Re: June Movements
"WTN10" heard on climbout 1549L (talking to Boffin so development jet). Predictably not showing on Mode-S (this jet appears adsb shy!);
Landed back 1635L.
"WTN69" launched in ZK303/AX(BT017) @ 1601L (seen on climbout 25). Landed 1741L (ILS 25 + fullstop).
Re: June Movements
Tues 25/6/19
B747-4H6(F) VP-BCR Silkway West "AZG5831" arr 1331L on 07 (in from Maastricht). 2x hawk fuselages plus 1 wingset, 2 bagged engines and various cargo pallets seen northside initially (1400L). Both fuselages across to southside in a convoy to Lump sitting on Cargo, at just after 1400L. A third hawk fuselage seen going southside @1535L after another wingset was towed across.
ST030+041+042 fuselages believed to have gone out this time leaving just ST043 & ST044.
"AZG5832" departed off 07 @ 1924L to Dhahran
(approaching Egyptian coastline @ 2320BST). (same one in before on 2/4/19).
B747-4H6(F) VP-BCR Silkway West "AZG5831" arr 1331L on 07 (in from Maastricht). 2x hawk fuselages plus 1 wingset, 2 bagged engines and various cargo pallets seen northside initially (1400L). Both fuselages across to southside in a convoy to Lump sitting on Cargo, at just after 1400L. A third hawk fuselage seen going southside @1535L after another wingset was towed across.
ST030+041+042 fuselages believed to have gone out this time leaving just ST043 & ST044.
"AZG5832" departed off 07 @ 1924L to Dhahran
(approaching Egyptian coastline @ 2320BST). (same one in before on 2/4/19).
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Re: June Movements
26/6/19
09:46L - ZK022/RF7113 (Hawk T.2/IV Sqn) ILS/Overshoot
09:46L - ZK022/RF7113 (Hawk T.2/IV Sqn) ILS/Overshoot
Re: June Movements
Weds 26/6 cont/d
"WTN10" airborne 1335L off rwy 07 operating just to nth in "target area" in the block (FL)140-150. Going feet wet (1428L) as finished in local area and operating in block 50-190.
ZK303/AX (BT017) seen on App to rwy 07 @ 1457L; t/g 1458L & land 07 @ 1500L.
658 Sqn (former 8 Flt) dauphin AH1 ZJ783 (photoproofed not showing on adsb surprise surprise), "Triton or Tartan (?) 20" approaches/circuits 07 land and takeoff each time between 1505-1540L approx. and dep towards Manch LL corridor?
Makes a change...
"WTN10" airborne 1335L off rwy 07 operating just to nth in "target area" in the block (FL)140-150. Going feet wet (1428L) as finished in local area and operating in block 50-190.
ZK303/AX (BT017) seen on App to rwy 07 @ 1457L; t/g 1458L & land 07 @ 1500L.
658 Sqn (former 8 Flt) dauphin AH1 ZJ783 (photoproofed not showing on adsb surprise surprise), "Triton or Tartan (?) 20" approaches/circuits 07 land and takeoff each time between 1505-1540L approx. and dep towards Manch LL corridor?
Makes a change...
Re: June Movements
Thanks for the logs, the 658 squadron callsign is probably "Titan".
Re: June Movements
Yes thanks Mike I realised later that was what is very likely was. They use "Titan" & "Lord" if not an Army Air callsign? The one today had 3 pob and the last approach was at a pretty steep angle, maybe an autorotation?
Cheers
Cheers
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Re: June Movements
27/6/19
10:57L - G-BWSG/XW324 (JP T.5/Private) Seen on radar for 30min sortie - guessing from EGNO?
OTT/Local
13:25L - ZZ388/CARBON10 (Wildcat AH.1/AAC) Heading North following M6 @2k ft
15:59L - ZK308/Chaos034 (FGR.4/RAF) Unsure if came through Warton, tracked over Irish Sea @16:04L @29k ft
16:10L - 164993/CNV6527 (C-130T/US Navy) OTT heading SSE 25kft from Prestwick
10:57L - G-BWSG/XW324 (JP T.5/Private) Seen on radar for 30min sortie - guessing from EGNO?
OTT/Local
13:25L - ZZ388/CARBON10 (Wildcat AH.1/AAC) Heading North following M6 @2k ft
15:59L - ZK308/Chaos034 (FGR.4/RAF) Unsure if came through Warton, tracked over Irish Sea @16:04L @29k ft
16:10L - 164993/CNV6527 (C-130T/US Navy) OTT heading SSE 25kft from Prestwick
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Re: June Movements
Thurs 27/6 cont/d (rwy 07)
ZK303/AX (BT017) up 1320L flown by "WTN10";
Seen W>E 10kft approx inbound WRT overhead at various times from 1324L. Went upto 15kft.
Targeting pod fitted so presume using various airfield "targets" for testing.Seen inbound WTN off Lytham @ 1433L after descent from overhead. Recovered via initials 07, break & T/go 1436L; landed 1438L.
ZJ700 (IPA5/PS002) up late afternoon flown by "WTN69". Inbound WRT @ 1738L for initials 07 high overshoot u/c down @ 1740L? Then seen manoeuvring in tight turns, u/c up, over airfield?
Landed 1744L. Working with "WTN14"?
G-BWSG up again from WRT at 1659L "WTN14".
Landed back 1748L after initials, break 07. Held off for IPA5.
No "Chaos" callsigned tiffy thro WRT today.
Cheers
ZK303/AX (BT017) up 1320L flown by "WTN10";
Seen W>E 10kft approx inbound WRT overhead at various times from 1324L. Went upto 15kft.
Targeting pod fitted so presume using various airfield "targets" for testing.Seen inbound WTN off Lytham @ 1433L after descent from overhead. Recovered via initials 07, break & T/go 1436L; landed 1438L.
ZJ700 (IPA5/PS002) up late afternoon flown by "WTN69". Inbound WRT @ 1738L for initials 07 high overshoot u/c down @ 1740L? Then seen manoeuvring in tight turns, u/c up, over airfield?
Landed 1744L. Working with "WTN14"?
G-BWSG up again from WRT at 1659L "WTN14".
Landed back 1748L after initials, break 07. Held off for IPA5.
No "Chaos" callsigned tiffy thro WRT today.
Cheers
Re: June Movements
Confirmed heard G-BWSG/XW324 (JP T.5/Private) as "WTN 14" Today viewed from BL.
Looking back through posts John Hurrell is a likely candidate for the JP. (Former Warton's Chief Instructor on Hawk?)
Back down to NL for "WTN 10" t/g before early breaking over my head (reminds me of NM) with 26 degrees and blue skies!!! Superb!!!
Mike
Looking back through posts John Hurrell is a likely candidate for the JP. (Former Warton's Chief Instructor on Hawk?)
Back down to NL for "WTN 10" t/g before early breaking over my head (reminds me of NM) with 26 degrees and blue skies!!! Superb!!!
Mike
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Re: June Movements
I can confirm it was T.14 in G-BWSG/XW324 - I believe JP T.5 is in for annual servicing, this particular T.5 is due to appear at RIAT in 3 weeks time.mjm320340 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 8:31 pmConfirmed heard G-BWSG/XW324 (JP T.5/Private) as "WTN 14" Today viewed from BL.
Looking back through posts John Hurrell is a likely candidate for the JP. (Former Warton's Chief Instructor on Hawk?)
Back down to NL for "WTN 10" t/g before early breaking over my head (reminds me of NM) with 26 degrees and blue skies!!! Superb!!!
Mike
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Re: June Movements
28/6/19
OTT/Local
09:44L - 739/FAF4011 (C-135FR/FAF) Heading SSE @25k ft after T&G at Glasgow
OTT/Local
09:44L - 739/FAF4011 (C-135FR/FAF) Heading SSE @25k ft after T&G at Glasgow
Re: June Movements
"Tarnish14" was JH when he was flying the loaned Hawk T1/A's (loaned from Valley mostly, sometimes Leeming); he and Jon Price (JAP) trained pilots earmarked to then train saudi pilots under BAES contract. JAP & JH used the callsigns in range "Tarnish 12-15" and "Lightning" for 2-ships and occasional 3-ships. I don't believe he was ever a Chief Instructor...he would be flattered by that I would imagine!
Cheers
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Re: June Movements
Fri 28/6 cont/d
IPA5 airborne off rwy 07 @ 1303L "WTN 10".
Stayed low (2kft max) after departure out to west (WSW). Nothing showing on mode-S (adsb) for this jet (as expected based on previous..).
Performed 2 "lower than normal" approaches to rwy 07, seen 1340L just off Lytham (& land).
JP T5 G-BWSG/XW324 up 1133-1215L
(up to MBay to just nth of Fleetwood as usual).
Recovered initials 07 & land, no circuits.
Departed to sth @ 1402L.
Cheers
IPA5 airborne off rwy 07 @ 1303L "WTN 10".
Stayed low (2kft max) after departure out to west (WSW). Nothing showing on mode-S (adsb) for this jet (as expected based on previous..).
Performed 2 "lower than normal" approaches to rwy 07, seen 1340L just off Lytham (& land).
JP T5 G-BWSG/XW324 up 1133-1215L
(up to MBay to just nth of Fleetwood as usual).
Recovered initials 07 & land, no circuits.
Departed to sth @ 1402L.
Cheers
Re: June Movements
SAT 29/06/19
Must be an urgent flight test schedule to complete with tight deadlines (as usual)...and
O/T to boot...
"WTN69" up in ZJ700 (IPA5) @ 1325L off 07.
Seen later off Lytham @ 1445L on App 07 plus heard overshoot(?). Heard manoeuvring over airfield for 2-3 mins and landed rwy 25 @ 1450L.
Typical Warton...
Must be an urgent flight test schedule to complete with tight deadlines (as usual)...and
O/T to boot...
"WTN69" up in ZJ700 (IPA5) @ 1325L off 07.
Seen later off Lytham @ 1445L on App 07 plus heard overshoot(?). Heard manoeuvring over airfield for 2-3 mins and landed rwy 25 @ 1450L.
Typical Warton...
Re: June Movements
Just to add to the John Hurrell thread. John flew for Hunter Flying club at Exeter for many years and he was one of the best pilots we had down there. Oh happy times.
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