[PP] Automated RAF Waddington Log 22/12/13

[LincsVRS]

Another non stop day at Waddington.....

406419 G-LNCT EXPL 700' 000° 0000 [reg] at 13-12-22 11:32:51 UTC
406419 GLNCT G-LNCT NA EXPL 800' 000° 0020 [reg] at 13-12-22 11:33:17 UTC
406419 GLNCT G-LNCT NA EXPL 1000' 000° 0020 [reg] at 13-12-22 11:37:28 UTC
406419 GLNCT G-LNCT NA EXPL 1100' 000° 0020 [reg] at 13-12-22 11:46:35 UTC
406419 GLNCT G-LNCT NA EXPL 900' 000° 0020 [reg] at 13-12-22 11:55:09 UTC
406419 GLNCT G-LNCT NA EXPL 1000' 000° 0020 [reg] at 13-12-22 12:02:57 UTC
406419 G-LNCT EXPL 600' 000° 0000 [reg] at 13-12-22 12:24:59 UTC
406419 GLNCT G-LNCT NA EXPL 600' 000° 0020 [reg] at 13-12-22 12:25:03 UTC
406419 G-LNCT EXPL FL260 000° 0000 [reg] at 13-12-22 12:33:27 UTC
406419 G-LNCT EXPL FL260 000° 0000 [reg] at 13-12-22 12:33:27 UTC
406419 G-LNCT EXPL FL313 000° 0020 [reg] at 13-12-22 12:41:43 UTC
4069D9 G-LBSB BE30 FL087 000° 0000 [hex] at 13-12-22 12:49:03 UTC
406419 G-LNCT EXPL 600' 000° 0000 [reg] at 13-12-22 14:45:19 UTC
406419 GLNCT G-LNCT NA EXPL 1000' 000° 0020 [reg] at 13-12-22 14:45:56 UTC
406419 GLNCT G-LNCT NA EXPL 1300' 000° 0020 [reg] at 13-12-22 14:54:15 UTC
406419 G-LNCT EXPL 0' 000° 0000 [reg] at 13-12-22 15:29:49 UTC
406419 GLNCT G-LNCT NA EXPL 1200' 000° 0020 [reg] at 13-12-22 15:38:38 UTC
406419 GLNCT G-LNCT NA EXPL 1200' 000° 0020 [reg] at 13-12-22 15:38:38 UTC
406419 G-LNCT EXPL 0' 000° 0000 [reg] at 13-12-22 16:18:43 UTC
406419 GLNCT G-LNCT NA EXPL 1500' 000° 0020 [reg] at 13-12-22 16:26:54 UTC
406419 G-LNCT EXPL FL353 000° 0000 [reg] at 13-12-22 18:34:42 UTC
406419 G-LNCT EXPL FL353 000° 0000 [reg] at 13-12-22 18:34:42 UTC

To decode:

A full line entry is made up of "Hex (ignore), flight number (often radio callsign for military, flight no for commercial, reg if not), Registration, Aircraft type, altitude (either in feet ' or Flight Level), heading, squawk code, alert type, date, time"
Bold items are squawk codes usually indicating a departing/arriving aircraft, non bold items are probably service traffic passing through Waddington LARS only

The small print:

Be aware that all my logs are automated & based on squawk code alerts. Although its normally Waddington it can pick up aircraft further away (outside of England) using the same Squawk code range. The reason for an entry is contained within the square brackets. For example [sqk] is squawk and the actual squawk code is the four digits before the brackets. All these aircraft have been handled by Waddington but may not have taken off or landed from Waddington, they may just have received a service from Waddington while passing through, without human observations I can not distinguish between arrivals/departures/service. Aircraft not using Mode-S transponders will not be logged. I will try and take out alerts based on aircraft type, route, reg, etc as they are for me personally but the occasional one may slip through. I will also delete emergency squawks unless I know they were Waddington.

Waddington Units

Aircraft type codes for Waddington based units are:

E3CF - Our local AWACS's E3
BE30 - Our local Beech Shadow R1's
GLEX - Our local Bombardier Sentinel R1's
BE20 - The regular Beech King Air's from Cranwell
EXPL - Usually the air ambulance or other explorer Helecopters

[LincsVRS]

The Human Side:

Well............ the air ambulance was flying!

G-LBSB The new shadow looks like its been up too

Other than that I have nothing, I was offline today so I do not know if there were any movements not shown on Mode-S if you have anything more please feel free to add your comment. I thought about not posting a log as there is not much actually moving but I thought I would for continuity purposes and in case someone is actually interested in the air ambulance and when it is flying.

Merry Christmas Folks
LincsVRS

[Thor]

G-LBSB The new shadow looks like its been up too

Correction: it's not a Shadow and it's not owned by the MOD/RAF.

[LincsVRS]

I believe that's a subject of some ambiguity, I'm referring to it as the Shadow as many people on here have done. When I first logged it I was careful to make it clear that it was a civil registered aircraft, in civilian colours and (so far as I'm aware) no military markings. I'm not going to be checking on the legal ownership of the aircraft as it would probably be quite difficult unless it featured on a mod press release or they simply answered the question. For all I know it may have been leased to the MOD. As for type its exactly the same aircraft as a shadow although I doubt it is equipped as a shadow.

For the avoidance of doubt ZZ419 was listed as:

Manufacturer:HAWKER BEECHCRAFT CORPORATION
Type:BEECH B300C
Serial No.:FM-18
ICAO 24 bit aircraft address:Binary: 0100_00_000_101_01_0101010111
Hex: 405557
Octal: 20052527

Popular Name:SUPER KINGAIR 350C
Generic Name:BE300
Aircraft Class:FIXED-WING LANDPLANE
EASA Category:CS-23D: Commuter Category Aeroplane
Engines (Propellers):2: 2 x PRATT & WHITNEY CANADA PT6A-60A ( HARTZELL HC-B4MP-3C/M10476NSK )

And G-LBSB:

Manufacturer:HAWKER BEECHCRAFT CORPORATION
Type:BEECH B300C
Serial No.:FM-55
ICAO 24 bit aircraft address:Binary: 0100_00_000_110_10_0111011001
Hex: 4069D9
Octal: 20064731

Popular Name:SUPER KINGAIR 350C
Generic Name:BE300
Aircraft Class:FIXED-WING LANDPLANE
EASA Category:CS-23D: Commuter Category Aeroplane
Engines (Propellers):2: 2 x PRATT & WHITNEY CANADA PT6A-60A ( HARTZELL HC-B4MP-3C/M10476NSK )

Ownership status is Chartered and the address listed as:

GAMA SUPPORT SERVICES LTD
BUSINESS AVIATION CENTRE
FARNBOROUGH AIRPORT
FARNBOROUGH
GU14 6XA

Now as its the same aircraft make/model, it's been referred to on here as possibly being the "sixth shadow" and in the absence of any other information from the MOD about its ownership or plans for the aircraft, I'm happy that people know what I mean especially as its a civil registration. Just like the Tutors down at Barkston its being operated by RAF so I need to make some distinction that its not simply a private aircraft passing though but is based at RAF Waddington in the sort term.

LincsVRS

[LincsVRS]

Just looking at the entry it might not have been flying, I know its got an altitude but I've seen my cousins Cessna 182 flying at 38,000ft this week so with a squawk of 0000 and a single entry it may well have been a ground run where there transponder was on. Just a thought before someone tells me it wasn't flying.

[MacksAviation]

Sorry am I missing something here ??

Everything I see listed in that log doesn't surely belong here on Fighter Control - Home to the Military Aviation Enthusiast

The link to G-LBSB is tenuous to say the least IMHO

[LincsVRS]

Well that's your opinion and you are entitled to it. Personally my opinion is that it's a RAF base and I've committed to proving daily logs of aircraft movement. I have asked for opinions before I started and listened to them. Although the log happens to be quiet it also shows what is not flying. Both aircraft in the log are based at RAF Waddington and one is operated as a training aircraft by a RAF squadron. Just because it's a civilian aircraft being operated by the military does not mean it's enough not to be on this forum because of its civilian link.

Your more than entitled to your opinion but your also entitled not to look at my logs, which I suggest you do if your not happy with their content. Meanwhile I will continue to post details about RAF Waddington, it's airspace, aircraft getting a service from the military, aircraft operated by the military, aircraft being used to train military personnel, aircraft based on a military base, aircraft landing and departing from a military base, updates on military aircraft that are not flying and I'm sure before long there might be a military serial to even keep you happy! Until then I will continue providing this information to people who do want it and I am sure an administrator would contact me should their be a problem.

[baz1]

here we go again someone having go after all the work you have gone to

[LincsVRS]

Haha, yea I have explained myself now and I will only give one explanation to each person otherwise I will fulfil their wishes to have a long winded back and fourth. Unless someone who represents the forum gets in touch I will keep going. I will continue to post over the holidays as people don't just want to know what is flying but also what is not flying or how quiet it is so they know not to bother travelling to visit if nothing is happening. Today nothing is on the log so there will be a post in the forum with the same heading as usual just giving a nil return so people know. Then over time there will be one log thread for one day and no more. Otherwise I know what will happen, probably three new threads in a day from people who are asking what is flying, what isn't flying, is it worth a visit etc etc. I will simply provide continuity. Also I expected negativity but I am pleasantly surprised it hasn't started until now and they won't put me off and a minority will not spoil it for the majority.

[jblcfc]

Thanks a lot LincsVRS for these logs, really appreciate them.

[John W]

To LincsVRS.

Please don't let any adverse comments get you down.
Whilst I personally am not into logging, I do look forward to giving your efforts a look over.

What I believe I am sure of, you will receive far more support than criticism.
However, everyone is entitled to an opinion.

Keep up the good work !

Regards,
John

[POL]

The link to G-LBSB is tenuous to say the least IMHO

It lives in the same hangar as the 14 Squadron Shadows and is flown/maintained by crew from 14 Squadron. So it's not really that tenuous

[jakdaw]

Sorry am I missing something here ??

Everything I see listed in that log doesn't surely belong here on Fighter Control - Home to the Military Aviation Enthusiast

The link to G-LBSB is tenuous to say the least IMHO

1: G-LBSB is as much military as half the airforce now
2: its great someone is putting up movements at this massively undercovered base (the hard work is appreciated here)
3: if you dont like, dont read
4: if contains a lot more aircraft info than some of the rumbling/rambling posts elsewhere
5: merry christmas

[Thor]

LBSB is not a Shadow, there is zero ambiguity. It does not have the Shadow's fit either external pannier and antennae nor internal. It did fly, I saw it with mk1 eyeball on that morning. You are correct in quoting GAMA as the owners, they provide servicing to the Shadow fleet, hence why the fleet cycle through Farnborough between detachments. The aircraft does belong in the mil section as it is currently operated by 14sqn. The above is all information in the public domain and easily verifiable.

The Tutors at Barkston aren't operated by the RAF, nor are those at any other unit, they are owned and operated by Babcock under contract to the MoD. Barkston provides EFT on behalf of the AAC & FAA, not the RAF.

Jakdaw, your point #1 doesn't stand up to any form of scrutiny. Keep it factual, chap.

Thor sends

[jakdaw]

Maybe not half but Tutors, Kingairs, Voyagers, Squirrels, Griffin are all none Military owned which is a large amount of airframes so we are heading that way, so at least stands up to a small amount of scrutiny??