Mildenhall could be out of bounds to us all

[BOLLO]

At the risk of being unpopular (although this never really bothers me) People might want to look at the larger picture. I doubt the usaf is really worried about photography of planes, although I'd guess they will be sensitive about some parts of this. However I'd put it another way. If I was at work and worked for the security services I doubt I'd be pleased if people were photographing me at work, especially around military equipment! It's easy for us to say I'm just taking pics of planes but with the size of lenses and clarity you get nowadays the images can be used for a lot more sinister uses.
At johns field with landing shots you are less likely to get faces in pictures than ground/static pictures. Protecting your employees is a good thing, especially for a special operations base.

Lots of people at work and faces can bee seen so I don't think thats the reason .

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[starfighter]

Clearly Agent K they haven't thought through that well , wasn't it at Lakenheath there was an,
attempt on a service person last year , the attempt this year at Marham,
plus the blue van near johns field.With less people now going , less friendly eyes looking out.

[Tronk 11]

It may be you can see a few faces but when you zoomed in they weren't very clear. To get on a base like you said you have to be escorted and trust me I've been on a few and have been asked not to photograph any personnel in my photos.

It may be a completly different reason, unless someone knows officially and informs the forum. Most people are speculating. It was just taking an odd turn that some were thinking this was an attack on our hobby, and some people were doing a natural thing when they feel attacked by fighting back. If the usaf don't want us to see certain things you won't see them, flying at night is the simple answer.

I said it MAY be people orientated as I looked at the screens. They are quickly put up and not very sturdy, but if it is for the troops on the ground this will mean a lot, as they can see something is being done possibly before more permanent measures are prepared, and they are being listened to. This is all speculation and guess work on my part, but wanted to stop the little digs on the USAF and guys and girls who put their necks on the line for our freedom.

Their job is our hobby, I'd be unhappy at people snapping pictures of me if I were working, I'm sure most of us would, but stood next to a war machine? They have the right to a private life under the human right act if people want to go that far but that's a whole other can of worms.

A bit of respect will gain us respect guys.

[BOLLO]

Was down Folly /ATS most of the day,same ole boys were down there doing what we do.No visits from MOD Police or USAF Security forces,business as usual really.

[Ghost from above]

With current heightened security due to incidents at UK military sites if you take this in hand with the news that at any one time the services are investigating 550 live investigations you can understand their current stance. We have seen this screening come and go over the years in relation to the security aspects.Its a matter of being understanding and going with the flow. It will get worse before it gets better believe me.

[tazmin88]

Was done Folly /ATS most of the day,same ole boys were down there doing what we do.No visits from MOD Police or USAF Security forces,business as usual really.

MOD lads visited folly just as I left at 1458 only two cars and one set of steps to look at

[tm74sqn]

Trying to decide what height steps I would need for photographing parked a/c over the Folly Road obstructions - any help would be much appreciated. Specifically what top step height would be needed for a 5ft 10 person?
Many thanks, TM74

[filmman]

Because the green covering on Folly Road is making base security worse, people on base cannot properly see what is going on now, it will, if common sense prevails be taken down. USAF personnel on the ground most likely now feel less safe. Most Follites already carry steps so all the base can see are peoples heads.

The advantage of Folly Road is that most people at the east end congregate there, which makes that area safer and the MOD police job easier. If spotters start roaming around all over the area security gets far more difficult.

filmman

[Cornish-guy]

I wouldn't be supprised to see a No spotting at the fence situation happen at All UK bases, similar to what happened at LHR, Its a sad time when innocent genuine folk are stopped from doing a simple innocent hobby because of a invisible threat.

Oh well its 2016 and the state of our modern society

C.

[Cornish-guy]

It will get to a stage where folk will have no choice but to spot aircraft that fly over them after they have departed a base(kind of like what I have to do )


C.

[tazmin88]

Trying to decide what height steps I would need for photographing parked a/c over the Folly Road obstructions - any help would be much appreciated. Specifically what top step height would be needed for a 5ft 10 person?
Many thanks, TM74

a standard stepladder with 5 steps ( ie 4 treads and a platform ),should be adequate for you it is high enough for me to see over the green screening and between the top barbed wire strands ( I`m 5`3") a seven step should take you above the barbed wire, I would not recommend a ladder without a platform

[starfighter]

Beware don't go cheep,worth the extra money,
See Lightningboy2000 post in the current military photo section.

Steve.

[tazmin88]

from the way some people use their steps its not the steps that are the risk to H&S its the way they are used , you must always have some part of the steps above your foot height , standing on the very top rung of a folding ladder or`A` frame (as opposed to a step ladder with a platform ) is a definite accident waiting to happen .

[starfighter]

Can you ask the MOD to lower the fences, or flatten the ground around ,
all bases.Better still a nice tarmac path with nice sand falling areas say every 4 feet.
Come on we all no the risks,but thanks for the useful information.
Steve.

[baz1]

the next thing is they may come up with a ladder ban around bases then what? as anyone thought of using stilts!! lol

[tm74sqn]

Many thanks for the replies to my question - I will have to check folded dimensions of possible stepladders as my car could be too small. If that's the case then I'm wondering whether a small lorry with cherry-picker, or even a small open-top double-decker bus could be the answer!
Regards, TM74

[tazmin88]

the next thing is they may come up with a ladder ban around bases then what? as anyone thought of using stilts!! lol

If this was to cover public places eg roads and footpaths or public land Would require local byelaws to be set up which is a long procedure , Stansted already has a byelaw banning any steps etc within 3m of the boundary fences


TM74, Land rover defender with roof terrace more practical couldn't get a double decker up folly due to overhanging branches

[Pune]

Hi Folks,
Playing devils advocate just for a second...does anyone actually know the reasoning behind this green sheeting?
Seems to be a lot of assumption going on and spotters (us) being the target, and as we all know (or should) assumption is the mother of all f--k ups!!! (sorry about the language but you get my drift).
Cheers
Pune

[baz1]

must be something to do with the government going green scheme!

[skidrow]

i was told that an IS video was put on youtube regarding operations on the base. Can't say that I or the person that told me this has seen the video but that was given as the rationale.