No parking on roadside

[BOLLO]

Possible to do with the F-35s arriving later this year.?? This will be fun ...

[Seahornet1]

Last time I looked (2015) on Ordnance Survey maps, there was a Public Right of Way footpath marked down that track. Has this been rescinded?
Freeman

The good news is that, yes, it is a valid public right of way, and that (regardless of any signage) the landowners or residents cannot deny you your rights.

The bad news is that stopping to view or photograph aircraft is not included in those rights!

The 'right' involved in a right of way, is the right to use the route as a transitory thoroughfare only. You have no right to loiter, or to carry out any other activity. It would be difficult for anyone to prevent you from looking at the aircraft as you are walking, and if you can take photos on the move, good luck to you! However, if you stop to do these things, or if you repeatedly walk back and forth, then you are exceeding your rights, and you are trespassing.

[Rugbyref]

It would be difficult to argue against stopping to tie a shoelace or to catch one’s breath if tired.

[Seahornet1]

It would be difficult to argue against stopping to tie a shoelace or to catch one’s breath if tired.

Absolutely; pausing for reasons associated with using the footpath as a thoroughfare would be perfectly legitimate. And any observer would easily identify the difference between such pauses, and plane spotting.

[Ian1963]

I think to many people have taken it for granted, the land owner is now fed up with this.

Just waiting for the clearway signs to be put up and the raised verges on the 1065.

It’s a shame for the regular decent spotters.

[James Cutting]

Won't be too long before it's pointless spotting at LN. Too many taken the pee out of the access you can get there, and now a decent spot has been withdrawn for many spotters. Such a shame.

Hasn't helped with some that "aren't so regular" who would park as close as they can and spend the whole day down that side.

[James Cutting]

I think to many people have taken it for granted, the land owner is now fed up with this.

Just waiting for the clearway signs to be put up and the raised verges on the 1065.

It’s a shame for the regular decent spotters.

That won't be long...probably from 29th March Just slowly watching it fall away

[The Phantom]

The joys of the facebook generation

[Rockstar]

As already confirmed the track leading from the viewing area is designated as a Public footpath. The following taken from the Suffolk County Council website on the rights and responsibilities of pedestrians using a PROW

The public have the right to pass and repass along the public right of way. This may include admiring the view, taking a photograph, or resting, as long as you stay on the line of the path and do not cause an obstruction.

[paddyboy]

Yes, ‘The Phantom’

The Farcebook and Twatter generation have ruined it for decent types once again

The sooner the suicidal parking is stopped all along the A1065 the better

[James Cutting]

As already confirmed the track leading from the viewing area is designated as a Public footpath. The following taken from the Suffolk County Council website on the rights and responsibilities of pedestrians using a PROW

The public have the right to pass and repass along the public right of way. This may include admiring the view, taking a photograph, or resting, as long as you stay on the line of the path and do not cause an obstruction.

Well thank you, that is good to know. I presume it is there to discourage the people that would block the way, there'd been a few.

[BOLLO]

Yes, ‘The Phantom’

The Farcebook and Twatter generation have ruined it for decent types once again

The sooner the suicidal parking is stopped all along the A1065 the better

That will never happen Paddy lad.The only time it will will be when someone gets killed or there is a very serious accident and the local council puts bollards up.

[Malcolm]

Last time I looked (2015) on Ordnance Survey maps, there was a Public Right of Way footpath marked down that track. Has this been rescinded?
Freeman

The good news is that, yes, it is a valid public right of way, and that (regardless of any signage) the landowners or residents cannot deny you your rights.

The bad news is that stopping to view or photograph aircraft is not included in those rights!

The 'right' involved in a right of way, is the right to use the route as a transitory thoroughfare only. You have no right to loiter, or to carry out any other activity. It would be difficult for anyone to prevent you from looking at the aircraft as you are walking, and if you can take photos on the move, good luck to you! However, if you stop to do these things, or if you repeatedly walk back and forth, then you are exceeding your rights, and you are trespassing.

You are wrong. The public has a right to pass and re-pass, so you absolutely can "repeatedly walk back and forth" as often as you want. There is also no restriction on how long it should take to walk from point A to point B. Stopping for a reasonable amount of time on a right of way to carry out some task is also Ok providing you don't obstruct that right of way to others. This was all settled by the courts in Bulstrode v Lambert (1953).

[paddyboy]

Paul: just for once, I’m sorry to agree with you

[XWP29]

Is the sign legally enforceable if there is an existing footpath? Or is it just a faux sign to put doubt in to people’s mind. Several footpaths around the base have been withdrawn in recent years.

[plmc135]

I think to many people have taken it for granted, the land owner is now fed up with this.

Just waiting for the clearway signs to be put up and the raised verges on the 1065.

It’s a shame for the regular decent spotters.

The A1065 is already a Clearway. If you look on Google maps, or next time you happen to drive passed the main gate at Lakenheath, you will see the sign indicating the start of it and that it runs for 4 miles. I think you will find that that mileage easily covers the distance to the traffic lights at Wangford Road.

[Malcolm]

Is the sign legally enforceable if there is an existing footpath? Or is it just a faux sign to put doubt in to people’s mind. Several footpaths around the base have been withdrawn in recent years.

No. Assuming the path is a public right of way, then the sign itself may be illegal, meaning whoever put it there has committed an offence. You can report the sign to the local council who are responsible for enforcement, and they should order the land owner to remove the sign under threat of prosecution.

[Supra]

If the sign serves to deter the "Is something special happening?" inquisitive general public that generally stop to see why a group of people are standing around expectantly, then it serves the purpose adequately! Most 'tourists' don't read these Forums or develop closet 'Legal-eagle" traits & will obey the sign....Result!
Conversely, these same 'tourists' are the ones who pitch-up late & find the viewing area full, then abandon their vehicle up that private vehicular access road blocking access to the landowners & their associates causing friction targeted at 'those damn aircraft spotters!'
You can almost guarantee that a vehicle parked at an angle on the A1065 verge with a corner sticking into the carriageway will be an opportunist passer-by, notwithstanding that a few boney-fido (sic) 'aircraft enthusiasts' have demonstrated the inability to drive a stake into the ground....much less a motor vehicle!

[Malcolm]

If the sign serves to deter the "Is something special happening?" inquisitive general public that generally stop to see ...

.... then it's a criminal offence to erect such a sign.

Point 25 in the below...
https://www.ramblers.org.uk/advice/path ... y-law.aspx

[James Cutting]

So, crack on as usual then, just use some common sense (Hard for some) and not be a di*k about it Maybe try discourage others that are causing a nuisance - know some "day trippers/social media bunch" who don't know LN as well would try parking down there.