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Friday 20-05-2022

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 7:10 am
by big john
Black 01 working 252.875 climbing fl600 routing ROPAL.

Re: Friday 20-05-2022

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 7:21 am
by JB87
Black 01 is RTB Fairford

Re: Friday 20-05-2022

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 7:22 am
by big john
Black 01 stopping climb fl450 doing a 180 turn for return to Fairford with Hydraulic problem.

Re: Friday 20-05-2022

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 7:22 am
by slogen51
08:22 Black 01 coming back early on 252.875 , no assistance required

Re: Friday 20-05-2022

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 7:28 am
by zero_gravity
Tracked just to the SE of SHAW then made a U turn.

Not sure if he will hold to burn fuel?
Usually goes to Cardiff bay area

Re: Friday 20-05-2022

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 7:29 am
by zero_gravity
Mode A 7700 now active

Re: Friday 20-05-2022

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 7:43 am
by zero_gravity
Full mode tracking here but no more position reports from me for obvious reasons

Re: Friday 20-05-2022

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 7:57 am
by WE.177
08.56 BLACK01 on with Brize Director [133.75]

Re: Friday 20-05-2022

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 7:58 am
by iang3856
Maybe I'm being thick, but what are the 'obvious reasons' for not giving further position reports?

Re: Friday 20-05-2022

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 7:59 am
by WE.177
08;58 BLACK01 now with FFD Supervisor [279.275]

Re: Friday 20-05-2022

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 8:00 am
by zero_gravity
iang3856 wrote:
Fri May 20, 2022 7:58 am
Maybe I'm being thick, but what are the 'obvious reasons' for not giving further position reports?
Check the press...too many ambulance chasers on these lists.

Re: Friday 20-05-2022

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 8:18 am
by iang3856
zero_gravity wrote:
Fri May 20, 2022 8:00 am
iang3856 wrote:
Fri May 20, 2022 7:58 am
Maybe I'm being thick, but what are the 'obvious reasons' for not giving further position reports?
Check the press...too many ambulance chasers on these lists.


OK, I understand what you're saying but surely once somebody has mentioned the unmentionable and a position or route has been given, then it's too late to worry about giving further reports? I do agree however, the almost daily reports of emergency 'sqarks, skworks, squirks' etc shows a total lack of knowledge and in many cases no grasp of the English language by so called reporters. Ouch! Just twisted my ankle jumping off my soapbox.

Re: Friday 20-05-2022

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 8:22 am
by Mike
zero_gravity wrote:
Fri May 20, 2022 8:00 am
iang3856 wrote:
Fri May 20, 2022 7:58 am
Maybe I'm being thick, but what are the 'obvious reasons' for not giving further position reports?
Check the press...too many ambulance chasers on these lists.
This is why Fairford movements should be posted in the UK Heads-up/OTT section as only members with 5+ forum posts can access that section, anyone can read this section and they don't even have to be a member.

Re: Friday 20-05-2022

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 8:26 am
by zero_gravity
Mike wrote:
Fri May 20, 2022 8:22 am
zero_gravity wrote:
Fri May 20, 2022 8:00 am
iang3856 wrote:
Fri May 20, 2022 7:58 am
Maybe I'm being thick, but what are the 'obvious reasons' for not giving further position reports?
Check the press...too many ambulance chasers on these lists.
This is why Fairford movements should be posted in the UK Heads-up/OTT section as only members with 5+ forum posts can access that section, anyone can read this section and they don't even have to be a member.
:thumb:

ZG

Re: Friday 20-05-2022

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 8:42 am
by Reubenacott
Mike wrote:
Fri May 20, 2022 8:22 am
zero_gravity wrote:
Fri May 20, 2022 8:00 am
iang3856 wrote:
Fri May 20, 2022 7:58 am
Maybe I'm being thick, but what are the 'obvious reasons' for not giving further position reports?
Check the press...too many ambulance chasers on these lists.
This is why Fairford movements should be posted in the UK Heads-up/OTT section as only members with 5+ forum posts can access that section, anyone can read this section and they don't even have to be a member.
Agreed

Re: Friday 20-05-2022

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 9:51 am
by mushbuster
Has the aircraft landed yet?

Re: Friday 20-05-2022

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 10:07 am
by Spitfire88
Yes landed safely just after 9am

Re: Friday 20-05-2022

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 10:09 am
by seven
Mike wrote:
Fri May 20, 2022 8:22 am
This is why Fairford movements should be posted in the UK Heads-up/OTT section as only members with 5+ forum posts can access that section, anyone can read this section and they don't even have to be a member.
Plenty of 'journalists' are members of various forums for that exact reason.

Plus the 5 post rule is no security. A few 'nice photos mate' and its access all areas..

Re: Friday 20-05-2022

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 11:02 am
by luxto
68-10329 landed R27 and vacated at the West end - going too fast to use the normal Dunfield turn off. Fire Department attended as a precaution but were soon stood down.

Re: Friday 20-05-2022

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 12:54 pm
by zero_gravity
iang3856 wrote:
Fri May 20, 2022 8:18 am
zero_gravity wrote:
Fri May 20, 2022 8:00 am
iang3856 wrote:
Fri May 20, 2022 7:58 am
Maybe I'm being thick, but what are the 'obvious reasons' for not giving further position reports?
Check the press...too many ambulance chasers on these lists.


OK, I understand what you're saying but surely once somebody has mentioned the unmentionable and a position or route has been given, then it's too late to worry about giving further reports? I do agree however, the almost daily reports of emergency 'sqarks, skworks, squirks' etc shows a total lack of knowledge and in many cases no grasp of the English language by so called reporters. Ouch! Just twisted my ankle jumping off my soapbox.
Totally agree....

Just to explain ....
Unfortunately it now seems to be a regular almost daily event to see on the Yahoo/Google news pages "" Ryanair this ...Easyjet that has an emergency..or RAF fighter declares an emergency , etc etc."
As part of my role as support and control of the PlanePlotter network I check and trace back every media report I find and can quite honestly say that non , in nearly fifteen years , have originated from PlanePlotter users. We are a private network and frown on such actions.


Sadly the web based public trackers are to blame.
There's one particular source in Scotland who seems to have a direct link with the tabloids and of course each time he makes one of his reports , often quoting the web tracker involved , the carrier/agency then has to respond to a media enquiry to explain "Nothing to see here!"

The only time tracking data is released to a third party is on the rare occasion I provide it to the AAIB following an accident.

The present climate dictates that we do our best to restrict what might be deemed "sensitive" information , which is why specific data from our network [especially Mode A ] is now embargoed and why , in this instance , I deemed it prudent to minimise detailed location information.

As for this....

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/r ... 2ede6c9514

I rest my case M'Lord. :(


Best wishes

ZG