BTF/ B52H 20-2 General Information

[Vulcan74]

With this weeks forecast I don't think we will be seeing much at all!!

[thevulcan]

RCH979 is inbound Pease ANGB and will continue the journey to fairford tomorrow.

[mr stihl]

Yes Vulcan74 you’re right! Training and real world missions only take place in sunny weather, Monday to Friday between 9-5

[Cranberry]

Yes Vulcan74 you’re right! Training and real world missions only take place in sunny weather, Monday to Friday between 9-5

There's a 25 knot crosswind forecast for tomorrow and higher for later in the week. That's going to be a consideration for whether some aircraft will want to fly to or from Fairford this week.

[dragonhunter20]

Yes Vulcan74 you’re right! Training and real world missions only take place in sunny weather, Monday to Friday between 9-5

There's a 25 knot crosswind forecast for tomorrow and higher for later in the week. That's going to be a consideration for whether some aircraft will want to fly to or from Fairford this week.

That’s not going to stop them, they came in last year in some pretty vile weather. 41knots at 90degrees is the maximum so I can’t see them having any real issues

[graham luxton]

Doubt if any Buff missions will launch until all the support has undergone the arrival process - could be several days.

[thevulcan]

My bet is on either Thursday or Friday being the first mission day if the personnel arrive tomorrow.

[dragonhunter20]

My bet is on either Thursday or Friday being the first mission day if the personnel arrive tomorrow.

Seeing as the crew turned up this morning I’d say your right on that one

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Yes Vulcan74 you’re right! Training and real world missions only take place in sunny weather, Monday to Friday between 9-5

There's a 25 knot crosswind forecast for tomorrow and higher for later in the week. That's going to be a consideration for whether some aircraft will want to fly to or from Fairford this week.

That’s not going to stop them, they came in last year in some pretty vile weather. 41knots at 90degrees is the maximum so I can’t see them having any real issues

Be careful you don't make a 15 year old internet post go further than it should, that one post is infamous amongst Buff crews as it's a dream that'll never happen. Those numbers never get used as they were the airframe's one-time max, not a current individual flight's max. To achieve close to those number requires a max weight Buff (which it'd never be at Fairford and the limit is lower for landing than it is for take off) on a runway longer than Fairford's, with an IP in the lefthand seat. The actual limit depends on planned take off and landing weights (limit decreases as the aircraft gets lighter), available runway length, runway surface condition (lower limits when it's raining) and the aircraft commander's experience rating (some need to avoid the worst weather).

[dragonhunter20]

There's a 25 knot crosswind forecast for tomorrow and higher for later in the week. That's going to be a consideration for whether some aircraft will want to fly to or from Fairford this week.

That’s not going to stop them, they came in last year in some pretty vile weather. 41knots at 90degrees is the maximum so I can’t see them having any real issues

Be careful you don't make a 15 year old internet post go further than it should, that one post is infamous amongst Buff crews as it's a dream that'll never happen. Those numbers never get used as they were the airframe's one-time max, not a current individual flight's max. To achieve close to those number requires a max weight Buff (which it'd never be at Fairford and the limit is lower for landing than it is for take off) on a runway longer than Fairford's, with an IP in the lefthand seat. The actual limit depends on planned take off and landing weights (limit decreases as the aircraft gets lighter), available runway length, runway surface condition (lower limits when it's raining) and the aircraft commander's experience rating (some need to avoid the worst weather).

Any ideas on the actual wind speed then?

[Gordie1049]

Google Metar Fairford for up to date reports.
Gordie

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You can't find them on the public ePubs site like you can for other aircraft so we must assume they're deliberately not made available.

[big john]

Google Metar Fairford for up to date reports. Gordie

Put this in your favorites:-
https://en.allmetsat.com/metar-taf/unit ... ?icao=EGVA

The report was made 13 minutes ago, at 09:39 UTCWind 17 kt from the South/Southwest with gusts up to 27 ktTemperature 18°CHumidity 100%Pressure 996 hPaVisibility: 8000 mBroken clouds at a height of 900 ft
Overcast at a height of 1500 ftlight rain, mist

[Tiger 1]

Hi big john

That is extremely helpful...I didn't know about this weather site... Great information thanks for showing it on the forum... just put it on my phone

T1

[Cranberry]

That's a nice easy to read one, thanks.

This one has the last 24 hours of weather too, scary reading at the moment.
https://uk.flightaware.com/resources/ai ... VA/weather

[shuck]

[/quote]
I've seen this before - in Oct'98 when 6, 2nd BW Buff's, arrived on a minimum notice deployment. Maintenance troops etc arrived afterwards.
[/quote]

Hi Graham, was this the 16th AEW Cobalt Flash deployment for Operation Determined Force.

[graham luxton]

I've seen this before - in Oct'98 when 6, 2nd BW Buff's, arrived on a minimum notice deployment. Maintenance troops etc arrived afterwards.
[/quote]

Hi Graham, was this the 16th AEW Cobalt Flash deployment for Operation Determined Force.
[/quote]

Yes Shuck, it was.

[thevulcan]

WESTERN BALTIC SEA. Kattegat. Charts GB 2108 and GB 259 (INT 120).
1. Military and air defence exercises in progress from 31 Aug to 07 Sep 20 in area bounded by: 56-45N , 53-49N, 016-00E and 009-30E.

2. Aircraft, surface and subsurface vessels will participate, and exercise mines maybe be laid and recovered.
Military vessels may manoeuvre erratically and operate with navigation lights or AIS. Vessels are requested to navigate with caution, to keep clear of all naval ships and to pay attention to the shown signals.
During this exercise Naval Cooperation and Guidance to shipping (NCAGS) will be used to interact with merchant shipping and requests maybe made to participate.

Additional information may be provided by co-ordinating warships or via email: DEUNAVYNCAGSGEREX@BUNDESWEHR.ORG

3. Cancel this message 080100 UTC Sep 20.

Credit to zero_gravity for the above.

RCH979 is now airborne from Pease ANGB and is routing to fairford.

[a3w1301photography]

I take it with Covid the crews have to quarantine. Is this for the full 14 days or is this reduced? Not sure if anyone knows the answer to that haha

[Cranberry]

You can remain quarantined by only going to certain parts of an air base that are reserved for you though?