Brize runway Black

[BOLLO]

U4499/21 - ALL AIR SYSTEMS ARE TO VACATE RUNWAY 25/07 TO THE NORTH. TAXIWAY
CHARLIE IS NOT TO BE USED. 22 JUL 15:50 2021 UNTIL 22 AUG 23:59 2021. CREATED:
22 JUL 15:49 2021

[BOLLO]

U4545/21 - AD CLOSED DUE TO POOR RWY SFC CONDITIONS. MILITARY EMERGENCY
DIVERSION AERODROME DOWN DECLARED. 23 JUL 17:38 2021 UNTIL 27 JUL 23:59 2021.
CREATED: 23 JUL 17:39 2021

[iainpeden]

And who decided it was a good idea to put all the cargo and transport assets into a single airfield?

[Freeman Lowell]

And who decided it was a good idea to put all the cargo and transport assets into a single airfield?

There's a discussion on PPRuNe around that question. q.v.
Freeman

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What surprises me is that Brize's runway was resurfaced 4 years after Mildenhall's - and both probably have had similar numbers of heavy movements since then (sts). Yet I don't see any runway problems at Mildenhall.

[Monster 76 Hunter]

Got in and out on a C130 FYI.

[tm74sqn]

Perhaps they weren't re-surfaced with the same material? If they were, then the salt-laden East Anglian air may have made the difference!

[Nighthawke]

Must have been the An-225

[StuBie]

What surprises me is that Brize's runway was resurfaced 4 years after Mildenhall's - and both probably have had similar numbers of heavy movements since then (sts). Yet I don't see any runway problems at Mildenhall.

Probably because the Mildenhall job would have come out of the US DOD budget. The fencing around Fairford compared to the wooden fence at the end of Brize is another example of money better spent!

Stu

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What surprises me is that Brize's runway was resurfaced 4 years after Mildenhall's - and both probably have had similar numbers of heavy movements since then (sts). Yet I don't see any runway problems at Mildenhall.

Probably because the Mildenhall job would have come out of the US DOD budget. The fencing around Fairford compared to the wooden fence at the end of Brize is another example of money better spent!

Stu

Are you perhaps implying that the US do the job properly, whereas the RAF do it on the cheap? Unfortunately, I read report after report saying that the UK does have the money to do it properly but somehow it ends up buying from the lowest bidder - who's the lowest for a reason.

[StuBie]

What surprises me is that Brize's runway was resurfaced 4 years after Mildenhall's - and both probably have had similar numbers of heavy movements since then (sts). Yet I don't see any runway problems at Mildenhall.

Probably because the Mildenhall job would have come out of the US DOD budget. The fencing around Fairford compared to the wooden fence at the end of Brize is another example of money better spent!

Stu

Are you perhaps implying that the US do the job properly, whereas the RAF do it on the cheap? Unfortunately, I read report after report saying that the UK does have the money to do it properly but somehow it ends up buying from the lowest bidder - who's the lowest for a reason.

I'm not suggesting the RAF do anything on the cheap. Unfortunately it's those in Whitehall that make the decisions and it is the RAF that then have to live with the consequences of the tendering process.

Stu

[Tooks]

With respect, nobody knows for sure the exact reasons for the runway surface deteriorating, or whether the resurfacing was done ‘on the cheap’.

Also, ‘Whitehall’ do not get involved in decisions like which contractor to award a contract to, and nor is it always awarded to the lowest bidder. The lowest bidder who meets all the technical and quality requirements yes, but those who don’t meet the brief are discarded.

[thevulcan]

Start Date UTC: 07/22/2021 1526
End Date UTC: 08/22/2021 2359
U4497/21 NOTAMN
Q) EGTT/QMDCH/IV/NBO/A /000/999/5145N00135W005
A) EGVN B) 2107221526 C) 2108222359
E) DUE TO DEGRADED RUNWAY SURFACE CONDITIONS, REDUCED RUNWAY LENGTH
AVAILABLE BETWEEN 25 THRESHOLD AND TWY CHARLIE / DELTA
INTERSECTION.
RWY 25: TORA 1420M, TODA 2131M, ASDA 1420M, LDA 1420M
RWY 07: TORA 1420M, TODA 1622M, ASDA 1420M, LDA 1420M

Brize runway not back to full length availability until the 22nd of August.

[sherriff]

See notam below. Runway might be available at 1200 local today. Atis is still broadcasting state Black/Green.

U4784/21 NOTAMN
Q) EGTT/QFALC/IV/NBO/A /000/999/5145N00135W005
A) EGVN B) 2108040001 C) 2108041100
E) AD CLOSED DUE TO POOR RWY SURFACE CONDITIONS
MILITARY EMERGENCY DIVERSION AD DOWN DECLARED
CREATED: 03 Aug 2021 16:52:00
SOURCE: EUECYIYN

[sherriff]

Voyager 'GJ' just launched from Brize rwy 25.
Maybe the 'gloves are off' with the runway availabilty !

[pikman747]

Voyager GJ only going as far as Prestwick!

[Goldstar31]

New Notam

U4803/21 - AD CLOSED DUE TO POOR RWY SFC CONDITIONS. MILITARY EMERGENCY
DIVERSION AD DOWN DECLARED. 04 AUG 11:06 2021 UNTIL 04 AUG 17:00 2021. CREATED:
04 AUG 11:07 2021

[sherriff]

Voyager 'GK' just landed rwy 25 full-length.

[TS010]

Voyager 'GL' landing as I type.

[wessexspotter]

Seems to be back up and running with normal operations underway - Akrotiri flight (ZZ335 according to Radarbox) currently on finals.