Italian Navy Harriers

[knutt]

The RiAT checklist has the Italian Harriers down as AV-8B MM55032 and the two seat TAV-8B as MM7200. However the 2023 Scramble EU serials book nd Threshold list MM7200 as AV-8B and MM55032 as The TAV-8B.




Kevin

[Canberra TT.18]

Have you checked them?

I did.
MM7200 AV-8B
MM55032 TAV-8B

[roger4]

Like TT18, I always double-check every aircraft by eye against the list (and agree with TT18 on the AV-8B/TAV-8B) - the list has an error or two most years.

None of us are perfect and I can make errors. I have one of the T-346As down as MM55223, where-as the list has CSX55223, which I believe is right. Which did you have it as TT?

[scottspencer]

Like TT18, I always double-check every aircraft by eye against the list (and agree with TT18 on the AV-8B/TAV-8B) - the list has an error or two most years.

None of us are perfect and I can make errors. I have one of the T-346As down as MM55223, where-as the list has CSX55223, which I believe is right. Which did you have it as TT?

Thanks for the update. What other errors did you get/missing from the checklist just to make sure ive not overlooked anything?

Thanks

[AK01]

2nd T346 indeed CSX

[fatherfaff]

I thought all Italian serials started MM? Has something changed?

[Mike]

Italian AF serials normally start with MM but not those airframes operated by RSV.

[mudhen15]

I believe that the CSX are allocated to test aircraft, usually permanently attached to the RSV.

[Canberra TT.18]

CSX is some sort of the test registration

MM stands for something like matriala militare (someone with better knowledge of Italian might help here) not only aircraft also other materials have MM numbers.

The test aircraft and also new aircraft get CSX
(Used to be CX if I remember well).

[slogen51]

CSX and CMX have often cropped up over the years

I don't know the significance although I have assumed is connected to some sort of development or test unit / use

[roger4]

2nd T346 indeed CSX

Many thanks.

[roger4]

Like TT18, I always double-check every aircraft by eye against the list (and agree with TT18 on the AV-8B/TAV-8B) - the list has an error or two most years.

None of us are perfect and I can make errors. I have one of the T-346As down as MM55223, where-as the list has CSX55223, which I believe is right. Which did you have it as TT?

Thanks for the update. What other errors did you get/missing from the checklist just to make sure ive not overlooked anything?

Thanks

The Italian HH-139B I have down as coded 15-75, rather than the 15-35 of the list.

The second Spanish AV-8B is down twice (static and flighline) and is listed as VA.1B-6. This is indeed the serial it is displaying, but the aircraft is VA.1B-26 with the "2" somehow missing off both fuselage sides (no clue why).

There was a KIngair D-ICHG parked on the eastern flightline, not on the list (it arrived Wednesday), SAAB's Global Exzpress SE-RMT (arrived Friday) was parked northside beside the USAF C-37s and C-21, and an AA5 G-BEZG which arrived Thursday was in the static (all three civvies, so some on here will not be interested in these).

[AK01]

Like TT18, I always double-check every aircraft by eye against the list (and agree with TT18 on the AV-8B/TAV-8B) - the list has an error or two most years.

None of us are perfect and I can make errors. I have one of the T-346As down as MM55223, where-as the list has CSX55223, which I believe is right. Which did you have it as TT?

Thanks for the update. What other errors did you get/missing from the checklist just to make sure ive not overlooked anything?
Thanks

the checklist is ok, but not complete, to name a few, AMX MM55043 listed as an A11A, this is an AMX-T dual sitter, Polish Sukhoi 8309 listed as Su-22, is Su-22M4, Hungarian JAS39C 34 is missing, arrived Saturday morning.

[scottspencer]

Like TT18, I always double-check every aircraft by eye against the list (and agree with TT18 on the AV-8B/TAV-8B) - the list has an error or two most years.

None of us are perfect and I can make errors. I have one of the T-346As down as MM55223, where-as the list has CSX55223, which I believe is right. Which did you have it as TT?

Thanks for the update. What other errors did you get/missing from the checklist just to make sure ive not overlooked anything?
Thanks

the checklist is ok, but not complete, to name a few, AMX MM55043 listed as an A11A, this is an AMX-T dual sitter, Polish Sukhoi 8309 listed as Su-22, is Su-22M4, Hungarian JAS39C 34 is missing, arrived Saturday morning.

Cheers, id just picked up the Hung from my photos, noticed it was blank on the Checklist. SE-RMT was over the far side next to 70402 on Saturday.

[scottspencer]

Like TT18, I always double-check every aircraft by eye against the list (and agree with TT18 on the AV-8B/TAV-8B) - the list has an error or two most years.

None of us are perfect and I can make errors. I have one of the T-346As down as MM55223, where-as the list has CSX55223, which I believe is right. Which did you have it as TT?

Thanks for the update. What other errors did you get/missing from the checklist just to make sure ive not overlooked anything?

Thanks

The Italian HH-139B I have down as coded 15-75, rather than the 15-35 of the list.

The second Spanish AV-8B is down twice (static and flighline) and is listed as VA.1B-6. This is indeed the serial it is displaying, but the aircraft is VA.1B-26 with the "2" somehow missing off both fuselage sides (no clue why).

There was a KIngair D-ICHG parked on the eastern flightline, not on the list (it arrived Wednesday), SAAB's Global Exzpress SE-RMT (arrived Friday) was parked northside beside the USAF C-37s and C-21, and an AA5 G-BEZG which arrived Thursday was in the static (all three civvies, so some on here will not be interested in these).

Id replied to the thread below about SE-RMT then noticed your reply. Thanks

The Italian - Threshold have it down as 15-75 aswell.

G-ASAL I photographed on Saturday (it departed later on)

N232E was on the checlist, unless I didnt note it down this wasnt there. Was down to arrive Sat. Dont think ive anything else on the checklist that wasnt there, unless you have?

[sdad]

MM = Matricola Militare = Military Number. Any ideas on the other one? Maybe something Speziale Experimentale.