Royal International Air Tattoo 2022 - General Discussion Thread

[airtyphoon]

Looks like the French Air Force Mustang X-Ray Tactical Demo have self confirmed with 2 X PC-21 Trainers - a UK Debut

[Mark]

I remember when a TAC demo consisted of F3's, GR4's, T1's, GR7A's (?) and an E3.....

but if you like PC21's....

[red leader]

Agree with you. PC21s are bland. French air force have far more interesting stuff than that.

[Discodaz]

Agree with you. PC21s are bland. French air force have far more interesting stuff than that.

tbh..i think most updates this year have been bland..nothing super exciting so far. more helis than you can shake a stick at..tbh, i didnt know that many helis existed

dont shoot me guys,just my opinion

Daz

[Vulture 01]

With Farnborough the week following RIAT that might bring a few more exotic visitors this year. Since the Indians were going to bring Tejas' to Cobra Warrior, that would suggest the planning had already been made, so just maybe......

The Austrian Typhoons/Eurofighters will be nice to see.

[Vulture 01]

Another passing thought about the financial side of this. A packet of 20 cigarettes cost (?) , a pint of beer (?), a ticket to a premier league football match costs (?)
I don't know any of the above as, due to personal choice, have never smoked, drink rarely and living close to Norwich City....enough said.

We all spend our disposable cash in different ways. Just enjoy the shows whilst you can since, as recent events have shown, it wouldn't take a lot to close the whole lot down.

[Discodaz]

Another passing thought about the financial side of this. A packet of 20 cigarettes cost (?) , a pint of beer (?), a ticket to a premier league football match costs (?)
I don't know any of the above as, due to personal choice, have never smoked, drink rarely and living close to Norwich City....enough said.

We all spend our disposable cash in different ways. Just enjoy the shows whilst you can since, as recent events have shown, it wouldn't take a lot to close the whole lot down.

well said...

Daz

[verreli]

Looks like the French Air Force Mustang X-Ray Tactical Demo have self confirmed with 2 X PC-21 Trainers - a UK Debut

I wonder what tactic they plan to demonstrate? Perhaps they'll do 30mins of touch and go's?

[DeanW]

I remember when a TAC demo consisted of F3's, GR4's, T1's, GR7A's (?) and an E3.....

but if you like PC21's....

That's not what it means when they call it a tactical display. The routine is more akin to the old Raffin Mike or Voltige Victor profiles, albeit not as tight, with formation passes leading to a more dynamic element including breaks and opposition passes. By adding in the 'tactical' they're differentiating themselves from the other more aerobatic displays that you may expect from smaller trainer types in Europe, such as the Slovenian PC-9 solo.

[jasonT1981]

Line up is looking great I think,

Text in Red has been confirmed by operator but not by DBH

Flying

UNITED KINGDOM - ROYAL AIR FORCE
RAF Red Arrows -Hawk T1x9
RAF Typhoon "Blackjack"
RAF Battle of Britain Memorail Flight - Avro Lancaster, Spitfire & Hurricane

AUSTRIA - AUSTRIAN AIR FORCE
Eurofighter EF2000 (x2) - QRA Demo
Lockheed C-130K Hercules - QRA Demo


BELGIUM - BELGIAN AIR COMPONENT
Belgian F-16 Solo Display

CZECH REPUBLIC - CZECH REPUBLIC AIR FORCE
Mil Mi-171 Hip
Mil Mi-24 Hind
PZL W-3 Sokol

DENMARK - ROYAL DANISH AIR FORCE
SAAB T-17 Supporter (x6) - Baby Blue Display Team / Flyveskolen

FINLAND - FINNISH AIR FORCE
British Aerospace Hawk Mk.51 Solo

FINLAND - FINNISH ARMY AVIATION
NH90 TTH 1 Helikopteripataljoona

GERMANY - GERMAN ARMY AVIATION
NH90 TTH

GREECE - HELLENIC AIR FORCE
Lockheed Martin F-16C Fighting Falcon

HUNGARY - HUNGARIAN AIR FORCE
Mil Mi-24P Hind
SAAB JAS-39C Gripen

HASHEMITE KINGDOM OF JORDAN - ROYAL JORDANIAN AIR FORCE
Extra 330LX (x4) Royal Jordanian Falcons

SLOVENIA - SLOVENIAN AIR FORCE
Pilatus PC-9M Solo

SPAIN - SPANISH AIR FORCE
McDonnell Douglas EF-18A+ Hornet

SWEDEN - SWEDISH AIR FORCE
SAAB JAS-39C Gripen
SAAB SK.60

SWITZERLAND - SWISS AIR FORCE
McDonnell Douglas F/A-18C Hornet Swiss Hornet Display Team
Pilatus PC-7 (x9) Swiss Air Force PC-7 Team

United States Air Force (USAF)
F-35A Lightning II - Heritage Flight (TBC)
A-10 Thunderbolt II at Heritage Flight (TBC)

Static

BELGIUM - BELGIAN AIR COMPONENT
General Dynamics F-16AM Fighting Falcon (x2)

BRAZIL - BRAZILIAN AIR FORCE
Embraer KC-390 Millennium

CIVILIAN
Beechcraft 200 Super King Air - 2Excel Aviation
Boeing 727-2S2F - 2Excel Aviation
Boeing B-17G Flying Fortress Sally B - B-17 Preservation Ltd
Canadair CL-13B Sabre Mistral Warbirds
Gloster Meteor T7(Mod) Martin-Baker
North American P-47D Thunderbolt
Piper PA-31 Navajo - 2Excel Aviation
Westland Gazelle HT3 - Nova Systems
Cessna O-1 Bird Dog - O-1 Aviation Ltd
Cessna O-2 Skymaster - Postbellum Foundation
De Havilland DH.89 Dragon Rapide Scillonia Airways
Piaggio P.166C I Fenicotteri
Supermarine Spitfire Mk.XVIE Suffolk Spitfire Ltd
Trago Mills SAH-1 Aerial Vocations ltd
Leonardo AW189 - Bristow
Sikorsky S-92A Bristow
American General AG-5B Tiger Private Operator
Auster AOP6 Private Operator
Auster AOP9 Private Operator
Ikarus C42 (x3) airborne Aviation
Piper L-4H Grasshopper Private Operator
Piper PA-18 Super Cub Private Operator
Piper PA-28 Cherokee Flying Scholarships for Disabled People
Reims-Cessna FR172H AKS Aviation
Scottish Aviation Bulldog Mk.124 Private Operator
Slingsby T67M-260 Firefly Anglo Europe Aviation Limited
Pilatus PC-24
Pilatus PC-7 MKX

ESTONIA - ESTONIAN AIR FORCE
PZL M28 Skytruck

GERMANY - GERMAN ARMY AVIATION
NH90 TTH

GERMANY - GERMAN NAVY
Lockheed P-3C Orion
Westland Sea Lynx Mk.88A

HUNGARY - HUNGARIAN AIR FORCE
Mil Mi-24P Hind
SAAB JAS-39C Gripen

STRATEGIC AIRLIFT CAPABILITY - SAC
Boeing C-17A Globemaster III

HASHEMITE KINGDOM OF JORDAN - ROYAL JORDANIAN AIR FORCE
Lockheed C-130H Hercules

LITHUANIA - LITHUANIAN AIR FORCE
Airbus Helicopters AS365 Dauphin Sraigtasparniu Eskadrile
LET L-410UVP Turbolet Transporto Eskadrile

PORTUGAL - PORTUGUESE AIR FORCE
Socata TB30 Epsilon (x2)

SLOVAK REPUBLIC - SLOVAKIAN AIR FORCE
Leonardo C-27J Spartan

SLOVENIA - SLOVENIAN AIR FORCE
LET L-410UVP Turbolet
Pilatus PC-9M

SWEDEN - SWEDISH AIR FORCE
SAAB JAS-39D Gripen
SAAB SK.60

UNITED KINGDOM - ROYAL AIR FORCE
Airbus Helicopters Juno HT1 (x2)
Airbus Helicopters Jupiter HT1

UNITED KINGDOM - ROYAL NAVY
Beechcraft Avenger T1 - 750 Naval Air Squadron
Leonardo Merlin HM2 - 814 Naval Air Squadron
Leonardo Wildcat HMA2 - 825 Naval Air Squadron

IN DISCUSSION TO ATTEND
Czech Republic Air Force
French Air and Space Force
German Navy Ongoing
Hellenic Air Force
Hungarian Air Force
Irish Air Corps
NATO
Turkish Air Force
Turkish Land Forces
US Air Force
Royal Canadian Air Force
Colombian Air Force
Zambian Air Force
Egyptian Air Force
Estonian Air Force
Royal New Zealand Air Force
Brazilian Air Force
Romanian Air Force
German Air Force
Italian Air Force
Royal Air Force of Oman
Royal Netherlands Air Force
US Army
Croatian Air Force
Indian Air Force
Qatar Emiri Air Force

NOT PARTICIPATING
Royal Australian Army, Bangladesh Air Force, Brazilian Army, Brazilian Navy, Chilean Air Force, Chilean Navy, Colombian Air Force, Cyprus Air Force Command, French Army Air Corps, Hellenic Navy, Royal Saudi Air Force, Kuwait Air Force, Royal Malaysian Air Force, Armed Forces of Malta, Nigerian Air Force, Republic of Singapore Air Force, Serbian Air Force, Spanish Navy

[Red-Eye-Knight]

It's looking a cracking lineup so far and still several updates to go, Nice list Jason are you going to keep it updated?

[jasonT1981]

It's looking a cracking lineup so far and still several updates to go, Nice list Jason are you going to keep it updated?

Yes, will keep it updated I have edited a post on page 1 I made to have all the info there too viewtopic.php?p=1361023#p1361023

[Flightech]

I remember when a TAC demo consisted of F3's, GR4's, T1's, GR7A's (?) and an E3.....

but if you like PC21's....

That's not what it means when they call it a tactical display. The routine is more akin to the old Raffin Mike or Voltige Victor profiles, albeit not as tight, with formation passes leading to a more dynamic element including breaks and opposition passes. By adding in the 'tactical' they're differentiating themselves from the other more aerobatic displays that you may expect from smaller trainer types in Europe, such as the Slovenian PC-9 solo.

I can't believe the Rafale C is confirmed for the Cosford Airshow and not RIAT. Not sure if it's from the French Navy though. Its bit disappointing to see them being a pair of p21s for the flying display though.

I think we are all waiting for the Polish Air force to enter talks

[Red-Eye-Knight]

It's looking a cracking lineup so far and still several updates to go, Nice list Jason are you going to keep it updated?

Yes, will keep it updated I have edited a post on page 1 I made to have all the info there too viewtopic.php?p=1361023#p1361023

Excellent Jason it's a great idea and guide for everyone

[Red-Eye-Knight]

I remember when a TAC demo consisted of F3's, GR4's, T1's, GR7A's (?) and an E3.....

but if you like PC21's....

That's not what it means when they call it a tactical display. The routine is more akin to the old Raffin Mike or Voltige Victor profiles, albeit not as tight, with formation passes leading to a more dynamic element including breaks and opposition passes. By adding in the 'tactical' they're differentiating themselves from the other more aerobatic displays that you may expect from smaller trainer types in Europe, such as the Slovenian PC-9 solo.

I can't believe the Rafale C is confirmed for the Cosford Airshow and not RIAT. Not sure if it's from the French Navy though. Its bit disappointing to see them being a pair of p21s for the flying display though.

I think we are all waiting for the Polish Air force to enter talks

Yes it is disappointing not to see the Rafale and Couteau Delta's schedule was out today and RIAT was not on it either and the PDF had no RIAT on their schedule.

But to be fair if the PC-21s are coming to RIAT I would prefer that as it would be a UK Debut and something never seen before unlike the Rafale, Couteau Delta and PDF who have all attended RIAT.

I believe the Rafale for Cosford is from the French Airforce.

[Discodaz]

Looks like the French Air Force Mustang X-Ray Tactical Demo have self confirmed with 2 X PC-21 Trainers - a UK Debut

I wonder what tactic they plan to demonstrate? Perhaps they'll do 30mins of touch and go's?

daz

[luke28]

We all expect the French too send displays to RIAT but what are the RAF sending to support French Airshows in return? Nothing.

A fast jet to Cosford and a UK debut to RIAT that fits into the Show Themes set by the organisers. Fair play to the French for their great support yet again to the UK Airshow scene.

[markranger]

I guess they can still be added though , Again the weekend of RIAT is blank for them so still a chance,

Great shame if they are not coming this year, Specially the M2000s , They really bring a different type of Display to the show,

That said, the show is still shaping up nicely, Great effort from the RIAT team,

Mark.

[jasonT1981]

While I would have loved some of the French jets, I am not going to complain about the PC21 demo. It's a new display for me that I haven't seen before and not only a RIAT debut, but a UK debut too.

Bastile day in France is the day before RIAT this year, so I assume the Fench display teams will mostly be doing domestic shows that weekend.

[Flightech]

Looking at the list so far, I'm guessing we are a little short of the flying displays compared to the previous years where we have had 30 plus.

I'm guessing at the best:

Turkish air/land force..... 1
Italian air force..... 2
Croatian air force.... 1
Us airforce..... 1 (tba). Maybe 1 more?
Czech airforce..... 2 (potential)
French airforce..... 1 (tba), maybe 1 more?

Maybe 1 fly past?

I doubt with the non European ones we will get any flying displays (apart from North America) so anything would be a bonus. I'm surprised that French and US navy isn't on there.

Anyone want to guess if Poland would be on the list this year?

I'm really curious if the Indians would bring their display team?

The Black Eagles, they're hasn't been any updates so far...

What do others think?