Salute to the V-Force Tour Details

[paullangford]

'Salute to the V-Force Tour Details'

http://www.vulcantothesky.org/news/670/ ... -Tour.html

[Pen Pusher]

Didn't realise that Duxford had got rid of their Victor yet.

Brian

[Trenchard]

And the begging bowl appears as well - at the very bottom of the page.

[paullangford]

Planned routes for tour;

Saturday 27th June

Newark
East Midlands
Cosford
Woodford
Carlisle
East Fortune
Sunderland
Elvington
Doncaster return


Sunday 28th June

Bruntingthorpe
Coventry
Wellesbourne
Hendon
Duxford
Southend
Norwich
Marham
Waddington
Doncaster return

[Hunter49]

Thanks for the info , any idea of times . ROB

[paullangford]

Thanks for the info , any idea of times . ROB

From VTTS:

"Here are the planned routes for XH558’s tour over the remaining static airframes of V-Force aircraft. All will of course be subject to weather and technical conditions on the day and routes may alter (or reverse), subject to local conditions at the time."
"We will bring you more accurate details nearer the weekend and will also publish expected timings at each location in minutes- past any appointed take-off time. This will give you flexibility to determine which will be the best viewing location for yourself and when to expect"

[Vulcanone]

Because it has not got a V Bomber on the airfield, where as Duxford and Elvington do. I suspect they will no doubt have another grand farewell tour after the end of the flying season....

Shackleton to the sky....

T

[Unknown74]

Definately would love to try and get to East Fortune. Always wanted to get a film of 2 Vulcans there with '558 and '597.......

[Supra]

Looks like they still have not learnt, at least when she is grounded, they wont have to `beg` for as much money as they have been year on year

As an affordable-housing enclave for arachnids, with somewhere between Bob Hope & No Hope of doing public revenue-earning live-runs at Doncaster, one can envisage a time soon when Staff overheads & Management costs are reduced to peanuts.(hopefully?) A 'dead' XH558 is no more appealing than any other grounded Vulcan & should be left outside like all the other examples that haven't received such charitable benefit. If those examples can survive on a diet of personal dedication, public events & British weather, why not?
If you consider the distance involved, why would anybody from, say Devon drive past other dead Vulcans to see 558 in Doncaster, even before you list closer 'live' examples?? The heritage aspect of this venture is flawed, certainly given the proposed location at Robin Hood. Probably on the day the new building opened, the airport would close & become a housing-estate with noise & traffic constraints. If VTTS pack-up & retire at the end of flying what are the Lottery Commission going to do about it?... seize their assets maybe

[Sylar]

The whole concept of keeping 558 at Doncaster is flawed. The general public are only interested when she flies. An 'education facility' isn't really going to captivate the general public. The VTTST should swallow their pride and let 558 eke out her last at Brunty. But that's another story.

Cheers

Shane

[TankBuster]

They should take the plans for the education facility down the road to Bruntingthorpe & build it there as a Cold War Education Centre!

Bruntingthorpe is where 558's new journey started & I cant think of a better location for 558's second retirement. All of Brunty's Cold War jets could then have a roof over their heads .

TankBuster

[Supra]

The whole concept of keeping 558 at Doncaster is flawed. The general public are only interested when she flies.
Cheers
Shane

You have it in one! A Vulcan that doesn't fly is about a interesting to the General Public & particularly youngsters as paint drying. Ask any bunch of school-kids if they would like to go & see an aeroplane which once represented all that is Great about Britain, or visit a Theme Park (respectful nod to recent events) & it will be the latter!
You can make the proposed visitor facility as interactive as you like, you will lose their attention in a heartbeat. The Gift-shop will be many more times attractive than the exhibits.
Don't compete with numerous separate organisations, join with Bruntingthorpe to develop a coherent 'living' facility away from the over-bearing Commercial/Security constraints that come with a currently active airport.
I guess somebody smarter than me should start a new thread..."Save our Vulcan from Them", or something more catchy...V2B ?

[Gary]

Thanks for the info , any idea of times . ROB

There appears to be two time slots for each day, so it will be keeping an eye on the weather and the XH558 twitter feed etc

Parent ICAO: EGPX
Start date/time: 28/06/2015 09:20 UTC
End date/time: 28/06/2015 12:45 UTC
Activity period: null
Lower height limit: 000
Upper height limit: 030

THE VULCAN WILL OVERFLY THE FOLLOWING POINTS AT THE TIMES SPECIFIED.
ROUTING BETWEEN INDIVIDUAL POINTS WILL BE CONDUCTED IN ACCORDANCE
WITH NORMAL ATC PROCEDURES BUT MAY NOT BE A STRAIGHT LINE:
532833N 0010012W (DONCASTER AIRPORT)0930
535528N 0005751W(ELVINGTON AIRFIELD) 0940
541621N 0002320W (SCARBOROUGH)0953
545445N 0012803W(SUNDERLAND)1013
555958N 0024304W(EAST FORTUNE AERODROME)1038
545614N 0024833W(CARLISLE AIRPORT)1053
532814N 0022326W(MANCHESTER BARTON AERODROME)1130
532010N 0020923W(WOODFORD AERODROME)1139
523824N 0021820W(RAF COSFORD)1153
524951N 0011916W(EAST MIDLANDS AIRPORT)1207
530559N 0004529W(NEWARK)1215
532833N 0010012W(DONCASTER AIRPORT)1228
TIMINGS, HGT AND ROUTE ARE APRX AND MAY CHANGE DUE TO WX OR OTHER
REQUIREMENTS. 2015-06-0788 / AS1

ADD 1 hour for local/BST


Start date/time: 27/06/2015 11:50 UTC
End date/time: 27/06/2015 15:15 UTC
Activity period: null
Lower height limit: 000
Upper height limit: 030

THE VULCAN WILL OVERFLY THE FOLLOWING POINTS AT THE TIMES SPECIFIED.
ROUTING BETWEEN INDIVIDUAL POINTS WILL BE CONDUCTED IN ACCORDANCE
WITH NORMAL ATC PROCEDURES BUT MAY NOT BE A STRAIGHT LINE:
532833N 0010012W (DONCASTER AIRPORT)1200
535528N 0005751W(ELVINGTON AIRFIELD) 1210
541621N 0002320W (SCARBOROUGH)1223
545445N 0012803W(SUNDERLAND)1243
555958N 0024304W(EAST FORTUNE AERODROME)1308
545614N 0024833W(CARLISLE AIRPORT)1323
532814N 0022326W(MANCHESTER BARTON AERODROME)1400
532010N 0020923W(WOODFORD AERODROME)1409
523824N 0021820W(RAF COSFORD)1423
524951N 0011916W(EAST MIDLANDS AIRPORT)1437
530559N 0004529W(NEWARK)1445
532833N 0010012W(DONCASTER AIRPORT)1458
TIMINGS, HGT AND ROUTE ARE APRX AND MAY CHANGE DUE TO WX OR OTHER
REQUIREMENTS. 2015-06-0788 / AS1

ADD 1 hour for local/BST

Start date/time: 28/06/2015 11:50 UTC
End date/time: 28/06/2015 14:55 UTC
Activity period: null
Lower height limit: 000
Upper height limit: 030

THE VULCAN WILL OVERFLY THE FOLLOWING POINTS AT THE TIMES SPECIFIED.
ROUTING BETWEEN INDIVIDUAL POINTS WILL BE CONDUCTED IN ACCORDANCE
WITH NORMAL ATC PROCEDURES BUT MAY NOT BE A STRAIGHT LINE:
532833N 0010012W (DONCASTER AIRPORT)1200
522930N 0010749W (BRUNTINGTHORPE)1217
515640N 0012901W(COVENTRY AIRPORT)1225
521134N 0013646W(WELLESBOURNE)1234
513656N 0011421W(HENDON MUSEUM)1300
520526N 0000755E(DUXFORD AERODROME)1308
513420N 0004152E(SOUTHEND AIRPORT)1326
524033N 0011700E(NORWICH AIRPORT)1353
523854N 0003302E(RAF MARHAM)1405
530958N 0003125W(RAF WADDINGTON)1425
532833N 0010012W(DONCASTER AIRPORT)1437
TIMINGS, HGT AND ROUTE ARE APRX AND MAY CHANGE DUE TO WX OR OTHER
REQUIREMENTS. 2015-06-0792 / AS1

ADD 1 hour for local/BST

Start date/time: 28/06/2015 14:50 UTC
End date/time: 28/06/2015 17:55 UTC
Activity period: null
Lower height limit: 000
Upper height limit: 030

THE VULCAN WILL OVERFLY THE FOLLOWING POINTS AT THE TIMES SPECIFIED.
ROUTING BETWEEN INDIVIDUAL POINTS WILL BE CONDUCTED IN ACCORDANCE
WITH NORMAL ATC PROCEDURES BUT MAY NOT BE A STRAIGHT LINE:
532833N 0010012W (DONCASTER AIRPORT)1500
522930N 0010749W (BRUNTINGTHORPE)1517
515640N 0012901W(COVENTRY AIRPORT)1525
521134N 0013646W(WELLESBOURNE)1534
513656N 0011421W(HENDON MUSEUM)1600
520526N 0000755E(DUXFORD AERODROME)1608
513420N 0004152E(SOUTHEND AIRPORT)1626
524033N 0011700E(NORWICH AIRPORT)1653
523854N 0003302E(RAF MARHAM)1705
530958N 0003125W(RAF WADDINGTON)1725
532833N 0010012W(DONCASTER AIRPORT)1737
TIMINGS, HGT AND ROUTE ARE APRX AND MAY CHANGE DUE TO WX OR OTHER
REQUIREMENTS. 2015-06-0792 / AS1

ADD 1 hour for local/BST

[NAM Updater]

I’m the nominated contact at Newark Air Museum and all my communications only show the late afternoon time slot for Newark as detailed in here http://www.newarkairmuseum.org/V_Force_Tour_2015

The local newspaper contacted me this afternoon, having received the media info from XH558 and they were also only advised about the late afternoon time slot!

Will try to keep people advised.

[mirage41]

Thanks Gary for flight timings.

Think that first twitter date shoud perhaps be 27th, not 28th.

[Thunder]

Can't wait for the whole sorry saga to come to an end. The VTTS have yet again shown no interest in Scotland with only pencilling in a fly over of East Fortune, what about the rest of the country? As for a final flypast at later date, I'll believe it when I see it.

[Pen Pusher]

The VTTS have yet again shown no interest in Scotland with only pencilling in a fly over of East Fortune, what about the rest of the country?

Are there any preserved Vulcan's/Victor's north of East Fortune??. The flying tour is as the title says, 'Salute to the V-Force' so why fly over somewhere there isn't a V-Bomber on display?

If you want to see ANY aeroplane flying, then the onus is on you to go to it and not it to you.

Brian

[Thunder]

To a certain extent yes, but when the VTTS have had to relay on public donations to keep it flying then they should put in more of an effort instead of flying within 100 miles of it's base. Also if you want to fly an aircraft then the onus is on the owners to fund it and not having to put out the begging bowl every Summer.

[dervish]

The flying tour is as the title says, 'Salute to the V-Force' so why fly over somewhere there isn't a V-Bomber on display?

Like Barton Aerodrome? (or has it grown significantly since being renamed "City Airport")

[POL]

Barton has a bit of Avro heritage you know...