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RAF Tornado GR.1 serials required from 1993
Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:43 pm
by fisherman
Oh dear, it's me again, can anybody help out with the serials for the following ex Honington based Tornado GR.1s.I cannot find my logbooks for the period 1993 and have these codes on slides I would like to post. I cannot find any records on the net.
JC, JH, JJ, JM, N, Y, TB, TR, TZ. Tornado GR1S
Re: RAF Tornado GR.1 serials required from 1993
Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:18 pm
by mustang5861
Likely someone else will fill in the gaps; if not, I'll post any details I can find from 'BAR' on Tuesday night.
Cheers,
M
Re: RAF Tornado GR.1 serials required from 1993
Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:35 pm
by JAWS
fisherman wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:43 pm
Oh dear, it's me again, can anybody help out with the serials for the following ex Honington based Tornado GR.1s.I cannot find my logbooks for the period 1993 and have these codes on slides I would like to post. I cannot find any records on the net.
This is from the RAF Rundown in BARG January 1993 .
27 Sq - Marham
ZA450 / JC
ZA447 / JH
ZA473 / JJ
ZA490 / JM
13 Sq - Honington
_____ / N
ZG750 / Y
15(R) Sq - Honington
ZA559 / TB
ZA549 / TR
ZA612 / TZ ( Not in BARG Rundown )
1 unknown
I checked through the rest of the year but did not see any changes to those codes listed .
Re: RAF Tornado GR.1 serials required from 1993
Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 5:48 am
by Weazel69
the 13 Squadron Tornado's are GR.1A's and on looking through my own logs & file system I cannot find an N
So I therefore trawled the 1993 BARG, still nothing but on looking at the January 94 BARG there is a Squadron Rundown of Codes/Serial tie-ups and yet again NO - N
they go to M as does my system
Re: RAF Tornado GR.1 serials required from 1993
Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 9:53 am
by Pi
Pretty certain we didn't have a N on 13 Sqn, def a M and a T to begin with but no N ?
Re: RAF Tornado GR.1 serials required from 1993
Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 10:03 am
by fisherman
Firstly thanks for all the great and very useful replies, amazing!
You are all right,
'N' ZA_ _ _? is a 617 Sqn machine and not 13 Sqn, also searching for AJ-Y 617 Sqn.
Can anybody confirm that 15R machine 'F' was ZA558 And 'TK' ZA608? 'TC ZA_ _ _?
Re: RAF Tornado GR.1 serials required from 1993
Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 11:42 am
by Nighthawke
I noted the following:
ZA367/AJ-Y in Feb/March '93
TC was ZA563 in Sep '92 and May '94 but not noted in between
Re: RAF Tornado GR.1 serials required from 1993
Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 3:56 pm
by Weazel69
when I just got home after having a cuppa, this time I have looked in the 94/95 BARGs and I am thinking could this A/c actually be a ( II ) AC aka 2 Squadron as they were flying GR.1A ZA395 coded N for this period
just checked on your 617 Squadron coded N and this is shown as ZA613
Re: RAF Tornado GR.1 serials required from 1993
Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:15 pm
by fisherman
Nighthawke wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 11:42 am
I noted the following:
ZA367/AJ-Y in Feb/March '93
TC was ZA563 in Sep '92 and May '94 but not noted in between
Thanks for that Nighthawk, really appreciate.
Re: RAF Tornado GR.1 serials required from 1993
Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:18 pm
by fisherman
Weazel69 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 3:56 pm
when I just got home after having a cuppa, this time I have looked in the 94/95 BARGs and I am thinking could this A/c actually be a ( II ) AC aka 2 Squadron as they were flying GR.1A ZA395 coded N for this period
just checked on your 617 Squadron coded N and this is shown as ZA613
Many thanks, Weazel69 you deserve a cuppa for that.
Re: RAF Tornado GR.1 serials required from 1993
Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:42 pm
by fisherman
STEVIEJAWS wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:35 pm
fisherman wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:43 pm
Oh dear, it's me again, can anybody help out with the serials for the following ex Honington based Tornado GR.1s.I cannot find my logbooks for the period 1993 and have these codes on slides I would like to post. I cannot find any records on the net.
This is from the RAF Rundown in BARG January 1993 .
27 Sq - Marham
ZA450 / JC
ZA447 / JH
ZA473 / JJ
ZA490 / JM
13 Sq - Honington
_____ / N
ZG750 / Y
15(R) Sq - Honington
ZA559 / TB
ZA549 / TR
ZA612 / TZ ( Not in BARG Rundown )
1 unknown
I checked through the rest of the year but did not see any changes to those codes listed .
Thanks, Steviejaws the information you have passed is well appreciated, hope the sun is shining for you over there!
Re: RAF Tornado GR.1 serials required from 1993
Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 10:45 am
by mustang5861
fisherman wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 10:03 am
'N' ZA_ _ _? is a 617 Sqn machine and not 13 Sqn, also searching for AJ-Y 617 Sqn.
Can anybody confirm that 15R machine 'F' was ZA558 And 'TK' ZA608? 'TC ZA_ _ _?
Again, all from 'BAR':
'N' of 617 Sqn:
Noted as ZA613/N in the 1/93 list and again in the 10/93 edition, then 'AJ-N' in the 1/94 list.
'AJ-Y' of 617 Sqn:
Not in the 1/93 list; noted as ZA367/AJ-Y in the 4/93 edition and again in the 1/94 list.
'F' of 15(R) Sqn:
NOT ZA558, which was w/o 28/10/83. Appears as ZA614/F in the 1/93 and 1/94 lists, but note that the 6/93 edition says the 'F' code was had been transferred to ZA600 (ex-'TH') because ZA614 was under repair for Cat. 3 damage; no date given for the transfer. The 1/94 list has 'F' back on ZA614, so any transfer of the code to ZA600 was short-lived.
'TC' of 15(R) Sqn:
Noted as ZA563/TC in the 1/93 and 1/94 lists.
'TK' of 15(R) Sqn:
Noted as ZA608/TK in the 1/93 and 1/94 lists.
Hope this helps fill in some blanks.
M
Re: RAF Tornado GR.1 serials required from 1993
Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 10:12 pm
by fisherman
mustang5861 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2019 10:45 am
fisherman wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 10:03 am
'N' ZA_ _ _? is a 617 Sqn machine and not 13 Sqn, also searching for AJ-Y 617 Sqn.
Can anybody confirm that 15R machine 'F' was ZA558 And 'TK' ZA608? 'TC ZA_ _ _?
Again, all from 'BAR':
'N' of 617 Sqn:
Noted as ZA613/N in the 1/93 list and again in the 10/93 edition, then 'AJ-N' in the 1/94 list.
'AJ-Y' of 617 Sqn:
Not in the 1/93 list; noted as ZA367/AJ-Y in the 4/93 edition and again in the 1/94 list.
'F' of 15(R) Sqn:
NOT ZA558, which was w/o 28/10/83. Appears as ZA614/F in the 1/93 and 1/94 lists, but note that the 6/93 edition says the 'F' code was had been transferred to ZA600 (ex-'TH') because ZA614 was under repair for Cat. 3 damage; no date given for the transfer. The 1/94 list has 'F' back on ZA614, so any transfer of the code to ZA600 was short-lived.
'TC' of 15(R) Sqn:
Noted as ZA563/TC in the 1/93 and 1/94 lists.
'TK' of 15(R) Sqn:
Noted as ZA608/TK in the 1/93 and 1/94 lists.
Hope this helps fill in some blanks.
M
Thanks, Mustang if only the serials were on the tails? F seems to be a problem, but I'm listing it as ZA614. Once again thank you for your help, much appreciated.,
Re: RAF Tornado GR.1 serials required from 1993
Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:01 am
by Hendon Chipmunk
If it helps, 'F' of XV Sqn should be the one named 'MacRobert's Reply', I saw ZA614 marked as such on 27/06/92 (Honington airshow).
But, just to confuse matters, on 20/06/93 (Biggin Hill airshow), the plastic replica Tornado GR1 was marked as 'F', complete with 'MacRobert's Reply' and 'ZA446'!
Re: RAF Tornado GR.1 serials required from 1993
Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 5:23 am
by Weazel69
A Couple of personal notes re F - 15 Squadron
First logged as GR.1 - ZA446 - RAF Coningsby - 30.07.1985 whilst on the Exercise "Mallet Blow.85-2
Slide - as GR.4 - ZA459 - RAF Lossiemouth - 10.09.2003
I can also say that I have logged like Hendon Chipmunk the afore said A/c as ZA614 only I have it as 29.07.1992 together with some AMI Torn's
BUT I did not log this A/c at all in 1993
Re: RAF Tornado GR.1 serials required from 1993
Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2019 6:24 pm
by Maurits37
ZA559 became 'F' XVsqn McRoberts reply in 1994 for a few years at least until mid 1996.