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RAF Tornado GR.1 serials required from 1993

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RAF Tornado GR.1 serials required from 1993

Post by fisherman » Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:43 pm

Oh dear, it's me again, can anybody help out with the serials for the following ex Honington based Tornado GR.1s.I cannot find my logbooks for the period 1993 and have these codes on slides I would like to post. I cannot find any records on the net.

JC, JH, JJ, JM, N, Y, TB, TR, TZ. Tornado GR1S

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Re: RAF Tornado GR.1 serials required from 1993

Post by mustang5861 » Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:18 pm

Likely someone else will fill in the gaps; if not, I'll post any details I can find from 'BAR' on Tuesday night.

Cheers,
M

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Re: RAF Tornado GR.1 serials required from 1993

Post by STEVIEJAWS » Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:35 pm

fisherman wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:43 pm
Oh dear, it's me again, can anybody help out with the serials for the following ex Honington based Tornado GR.1s.I cannot find my logbooks for the period 1993 and have these codes on slides I would like to post. I cannot find any records on the net.
This is from the RAF Rundown in BARG January 1993 .

27 Sq - Marham

ZA450 / JC
ZA447 / JH
ZA473 / JJ
ZA490 / JM

13 Sq - Honington

_____ / N
ZG750 / Y

15(R) Sq - Honington

ZA559 / TB
ZA549 / TR
ZA612 / TZ ( Not in BARG Rundown )

1 unknown

I checked through the rest of the year but did not see any changes to those codes listed .
Regards Steve............

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Re: RAF Tornado GR.1 serials required from 1993

Post by Weazel69 » Tue Aug 13, 2019 5:48 am

the 13 Squadron Tornado's are GR.1A's and on looking through my own logs & file system I cannot find an N
So I therefore trawled the 1993 BARG, still nothing but on looking at the January 94 BARG there is a Squadron Rundown of Codes/Serial tie-ups and yet again NO - N
they go to M as does my system
forewarned is forearmed

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Re: RAF Tornado GR.1 serials required from 1993

Post by Pi » Tue Aug 13, 2019 9:53 am

Pretty certain we didn't have a N on 13 Sqn, def a M and a T to begin with but no N ?

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Re: RAF Tornado GR.1 serials required from 1993

Post by fisherman » Tue Aug 13, 2019 10:03 am

Firstly thanks for all the great and very useful replies, amazing!
You are all right,

'N' ZA_ _ _? is a 617 Sqn machine and not 13 Sqn, also searching for AJ-Y 617 Sqn.

Can anybody confirm that 15R machine 'F' was ZA558 And 'TK' ZA608? 'TC ZA_ _ _?

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Re: RAF Tornado GR.1 serials required from 1993

Post by Nighthawke » Tue Aug 13, 2019 11:42 am

I noted the following:
ZA367/AJ-Y in Feb/March '93

TC was ZA563 in Sep '92 and May '94 but not noted in between

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Re: RAF Tornado GR.1 serials required from 1993

Post by Weazel69 » Tue Aug 13, 2019 3:56 pm

when I just got home after having a cuppa, this time I have looked in the 94/95 BARGs and I am thinking could this A/c actually be a ( II ) AC aka 2 Squadron as they were flying GR.1A ZA395 coded N for this period

just checked on your 617 Squadron coded N and this is shown as ZA613
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Re: RAF Tornado GR.1 serials required from 1993

Post by fisherman » Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:15 pm

Nighthawke wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2019 11:42 am
I noted the following:
ZA367/AJ-Y in Feb/March '93

TC was ZA563 in Sep '92 and May '94 but not noted in between
Thanks for that Nighthawk, really appreciate.

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Re: RAF Tornado GR.1 serials required from 1993

Post by fisherman » Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:18 pm

Weazel69 wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2019 3:56 pm
when I just got home after having a cuppa, this time I have looked in the 94/95 BARGs and I am thinking could this A/c actually be a ( II ) AC aka 2 Squadron as they were flying GR.1A ZA395 coded N for this period

just checked on your 617 Squadron coded N and this is shown as ZA613
Many thanks, Weazel69 you deserve a cuppa for that.

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Re: RAF Tornado GR.1 serials required from 1993

Post by fisherman » Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:42 pm

STEVIEJAWS wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:35 pm
fisherman wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:43 pm
Oh dear, it's me again, can anybody help out with the serials for the following ex Honington based Tornado GR.1s.I cannot find my logbooks for the period 1993 and have these codes on slides I would like to post. I cannot find any records on the net.
This is from the RAF Rundown in BARG January 1993 .

27 Sq - Marham

ZA450 / JC
ZA447 / JH
ZA473 / JJ
ZA490 / JM

13 Sq - Honington

_____ / N
ZG750 / Y

15(R) Sq - Honington

ZA559 / TB
ZA549 / TR
ZA612 / TZ ( Not in BARG Rundown )

1 unknown

I checked through the rest of the year but did not see any changes to those codes listed .
Thanks, Steviejaws the information you have passed is well appreciated, hope the sun is shining for you over there!

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Re: RAF Tornado GR.1 serials required from 1993

Post by mustang5861 » Wed Aug 14, 2019 10:45 am

fisherman wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2019 10:03 am
'N' ZA_ _ _? is a 617 Sqn machine and not 13 Sqn, also searching for AJ-Y 617 Sqn.

Can anybody confirm that 15R machine 'F' was ZA558 And 'TK' ZA608? 'TC ZA_ _ _?
Again, all from 'BAR':

'N' of 617 Sqn:
Noted as ZA613/N in the 1/93 list and again in the 10/93 edition, then 'AJ-N' in the 1/94 list.

'AJ-Y' of 617 Sqn:
Not in the 1/93 list; noted as ZA367/AJ-Y in the 4/93 edition and again in the 1/94 list.

'F' of 15(R) Sqn:
NOT ZA558, which was w/o 28/10/83. Appears as ZA614/F in the 1/93 and 1/94 lists, but note that the 6/93 edition says the 'F' code was had been transferred to ZA600 (ex-'TH') because ZA614 was under repair for Cat. 3 damage; no date given for the transfer. The 1/94 list has 'F' back on ZA614, so any transfer of the code to ZA600 was short-lived.

'TC' of 15(R) Sqn:
Noted as ZA563/TC in the 1/93 and 1/94 lists.

'TK' of 15(R) Sqn:
Noted as ZA608/TK in the 1/93 and 1/94 lists.


Hope this helps fill in some blanks.
M

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Re: RAF Tornado GR.1 serials required from 1993

Post by fisherman » Wed Aug 14, 2019 10:12 pm

mustang5861 wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2019 10:45 am
fisherman wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2019 10:03 am
'N' ZA_ _ _? is a 617 Sqn machine and not 13 Sqn, also searching for AJ-Y 617 Sqn.

Can anybody confirm that 15R machine 'F' was ZA558 And 'TK' ZA608? 'TC ZA_ _ _?
Again, all from 'BAR':

'N' of 617 Sqn:
Noted as ZA613/N in the 1/93 list and again in the 10/93 edition, then 'AJ-N' in the 1/94 list.

'AJ-Y' of 617 Sqn:
Not in the 1/93 list; noted as ZA367/AJ-Y in the 4/93 edition and again in the 1/94 list.

'F' of 15(R) Sqn:
NOT ZA558, which was w/o 28/10/83. Appears as ZA614/F in the 1/93 and 1/94 lists, but note that the 6/93 edition says the 'F' code was had been transferred to ZA600 (ex-'TH') because ZA614 was under repair for Cat. 3 damage; no date given for the transfer. The 1/94 list has 'F' back on ZA614, so any transfer of the code to ZA600 was short-lived.

'TC' of 15(R) Sqn:
Noted as ZA563/TC in the 1/93 and 1/94 lists.

'TK' of 15(R) Sqn:
Noted as ZA608/TK in the 1/93 and 1/94 lists.


Hope this helps fill in some blanks.
M
Thanks, Mustang if only the serials were on the tails? F seems to be a problem, but I'm listing it as ZA614. Once again thank you for your help, much appreciated.,

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Re: RAF Tornado GR.1 serials required from 1993

Post by Hendon Chipmunk » Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:01 am

If it helps, 'F' of XV Sqn should be the one named 'MacRobert's Reply', I saw ZA614 marked as such on 27/06/92 (Honington airshow).

But, just to confuse matters, on 20/06/93 (Biggin Hill airshow), the plastic replica Tornado GR1 was marked as 'F', complete with 'MacRobert's Reply' and 'ZA446'!

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Re: RAF Tornado GR.1 serials required from 1993

Post by Weazel69 » Thu Aug 15, 2019 5:23 am

A Couple of personal notes re F - 15 Squadron
First logged as GR.1 - ZA446 - RAF Coningsby - 30.07.1985 whilst on the Exercise "Mallet Blow.85-2
Slide - as GR.4 - ZA459 - RAF Lossiemouth - 10.09.2003

I can also say that I have logged like Hendon Chipmunk the afore said A/c as ZA614 only I have it as 29.07.1992 together with some AMI Torn's
BUT I did not log this A/c at all in 1993
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