Did you know that registration to Fighter Control is completely free and brings you lots of added features? Find out more....

UK Confirms 9 Boeing P-8's to be purchased

All discussion about the 2015 SDSR in here please.
Andy_99
Posts: 776
Joined: Tue Jan 28, 2014 12:37 pm
Location: Hebburn

Re: P-8s for the RAF?

Post by Andy_99 » Sun Jun 28, 2015 10:24 pm

Waddington is the obvious choice.

I get the feeling that the new govt. are thinking more of the longer term where Scotland may not be part of the union.
Why spend money on basing new assets North of the border when before much longer it won't be British soil.

Besides as stated Waddo is the Centre of the country & equidistant ish for all of the areas of ocean we'd be responsible for.

Contrail1958
Posts: 1017
Joined: Fri May 04, 2012 9:45 pm

Re: P-8s for the RAF?

Post by Contrail1958 » Mon Jun 29, 2015 7:24 am

Andy_99 wrote:Waddington is the obvious choice.

I get the feeling that the new govt. are thinking more of the longer term where Scotland may not be part of the union.
Why spend money on basing new assets North of the border when before much longer it won't be British soil.

Besides as stated Waddo is the Centre of the country & equidistant ish for all of the areas of ocean we'd be responsible for.
The new govt is the same as the last one, and if we're talking centre of the country that would be with-in the M25.

ythanpythan
Posts: 361
Joined: Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:50 am

Re: P-8s for the RAF?

Post by ythanpythan » Mon Jun 29, 2015 9:19 am

And here we go again, for those just joining the thread here's a brief overview of the arguments.

Aircraft Type
  • 1) We should have the P8
  • 2) We should have the P1
  • 3) We should have never scrapped the MRA4, I hate the Government etc etc
  • 4) Why can't the F35 do it, disgrace, farce, etc
  • 5) Someone said Vulcan, I love/hate (delete as appropriate) the Vulcan
Base
  • 1) Waddington because (insert iffy reason) but actually because it's closer to me
  • 2) Kinloss because (insert iffy reason) but actually because it's closer to me
  • 3) St Mawgan because Nimrods used to be there, but actually because I have a holiday cottage there

User avatar
onemac
Posts: 2406
Joined: Sun Oct 04, 2009 7:09 pm

Re: P-8s for the RAF?

Post by onemac » Mon Jun 29, 2015 9:29 am

Andy_99 wrote:Why spend money on basing new assets North of the border when before much longer it won't be British soil.
Just to clarify IF (and it's a biggie) Scotland decide to separate from the rest of the country, everywhere south of the border won't be British soil either :thumb:
Andy_99 wrote:Besides as stated Waddo is the Centre of the country & equidistant ish for all of the areas of ocean we'd be responsible for.
Well that's a big 'ISH'!

Skeggy - 43 miles (ish)
Newquay - 339 miles (ish)
Berwick - 219 miles (ish)
Brighton - 212 miles (ish)
Workington - 198 miles (ish)

Ian - thanks for the overview but you forgot the Faslane discussion! I'm sure Waddington is the obvious choice for the subs :)

Al

EGVP
Posts: 12811
Joined: Sun Oct 04, 2009 3:26 pm

Re: P-8s for the RAF?

Post by EGVP » Mon Jun 29, 2015 10:03 am

onemac wrote:Just to clarify IF (and it's a biggie) Scotland decide to separate from the rest of the country, everywhere south of the border won't be British soil either :thumb:
Why, will Britain no longer exist if one of the three territories is no longer part of it?

User avatar
flarkey
Posts: 272
Joined: Thu Oct 08, 2009 11:01 am
Location: Nelson's County - EGSV.

Re: P-8s for the RAF?

Post by flarkey » Mon Jun 29, 2015 10:29 am

EGVP wrote:
onemac wrote:Just to clarify IF (and it's a biggie) Scotland decide to separate from the rest of the country, everywhere south of the border won't be British soil either :thumb:
Why, will Britain no longer exist if one of the three territories is no longer part of it?
I think you mean four territories.

EGVP
Posts: 12811
Joined: Sun Oct 04, 2009 3:26 pm

Re: P-8s for the RAF?

Post by EGVP » Mon Jun 29, 2015 10:51 am

Do I? I thought Great Britain was three, United Kingdom was four?

dinger
Posts: 1362
Joined: Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:23 pm
Location: Lincolnshire

Re: P-8s for the RAF?

Post by dinger » Mon Jun 29, 2015 11:22 am

Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

Dinger
Canon 70D
Canon 50D
Canon 24-105 F4.0L IS USM
Canon 70-300 F4-5.6L IS USM
Canon 100-400 F4.5-5.6L IS II USM

EGVP
Posts: 12811
Joined: Sun Oct 04, 2009 3:26 pm

Re: P-8s for the RAF?

Post by EGVP » Mon Jun 29, 2015 11:33 am

That's the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Surely "British soil" refers to Great Britain, and therefore only three territories?

User avatar
Arthur Tee
Posts: 926
Joined: Sun Feb 21, 2010 12:51 pm
Location: Shawbury, Shrewsbury,Shropshire!

Re: P-8s for the RAF?

Post by Arthur Tee » Mon Jun 29, 2015 12:12 pm

Oh Lord! Do we now have to factor-in Ballykelly into the basing options now? :Wow:

Arthur

Yorkshire82
Posts: 142
Joined: Wed Nov 20, 2013 11:29 am

Re: P-8s for the RAF?

Post by Yorkshire82 » Mon Jun 29, 2015 12:37 pm

ythanpythan, very good! haha

User avatar
Sky Pirate
Posts: 146
Joined: Mon Jan 25, 2010 10:12 pm
Location: Inverness

Re: P-8s for the RAF?

Post by Sky Pirate » Mon Jun 29, 2015 2:08 pm

I suppose when the Government evennnntually :grr: get round to it, the planes will be based either in Scotland, England or possibly :grr: Shetland...... :whistle: :whistle: :whistle:

User avatar
Gary
Posts: 35453
Joined: Sun Oct 04, 2009 4:51 pm
Location: South Lincolnshire

Re: P-8s for the RAF?

Post by Gary » Mon Jun 29, 2015 2:38 pm

Not sure it matters where they are going to based :P The number that's been touted, a lot of them will probably be deployed or in maintenance a lot of the time :lol:

On a related subject many crews did the old Nimrod squadrons have?

User avatar
Sky Pirate
Posts: 146
Joined: Mon Jan 25, 2010 10:12 pm
Location: Inverness

Re: P-8s for the RAF?

Post by Sky Pirate » Mon Jun 29, 2015 2:40 pm

Eight/Nine I think Gary.....Got a couple of crew patches for Nimrod Sqn's one is crew 9 on 206 Sqn.On April 7th, Flt Lt Turnbull and Crew 8 aboard XV258 carried out a six-hour search for Argentine surface vessels and submarines, and also acted as a communications link between submerged RN nuclear submarines and Northwood. http://www.targetlock.org.uk/nimrod/service.html
Last edited by Sky Pirate on Mon Jun 29, 2015 4:20 pm, edited 4 times in total.

Contrail1958
Posts: 1017
Joined: Fri May 04, 2012 9:45 pm

Re: P-8s for the RAF?

Post by Contrail1958 » Mon Jun 29, 2015 2:58 pm

Waddo would become such a High Value target with all these "Eggs" in one basket I
suppose they would have to move the airshow to somewhere else.
Security would be raised even more . :(

dinger
Posts: 1362
Joined: Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:23 pm
Location: Lincolnshire

Re: P-8s for the RAF?

Post by dinger » Mon Jun 29, 2015 3:10 pm

Airshow, what Airshow??? Doubt it will happen again in my opinion so would not have a bearing on additional assets being based at Waddington.

Dinger
Canon 70D
Canon 50D
Canon 24-105 F4.0L IS USM
Canon 70-300 F4-5.6L IS USM
Canon 100-400 F4.5-5.6L IS II USM

User avatar
Sky Pirate
Posts: 146
Joined: Mon Jan 25, 2010 10:12 pm
Location: Inverness

Re: P-8s for the RAF?

Post by Sky Pirate » Mon Jun 29, 2015 4:17 pm

Gary wrote:Not sure it matters where they are going to based :P The number that's been touted, a lot of them will probably be deployed or in maintenance a lot of the time :lol:

On a related subject many crews did the old Nimrod squadrons have?

A friendly ex Crew Chief has informed me the Operational Sqn's had nine crews available and the OCU 4 Gary...cheers Jim(Bluetail)

Hugh.

User avatar
Gary
Posts: 35453
Joined: Sun Oct 04, 2009 4:51 pm
Location: South Lincolnshire

Re: P-8s for the RAF?

Post by Gary » Mon Jun 29, 2015 5:29 pm

Thanks Hugh, much appreciated mate

blackbox
Posts: 149
Joined: Thu Oct 08, 2009 1:20 pm

Re: P-8s for the RAF?

Post by blackbox » Tue Jun 30, 2015 6:58 pm

As a matter of interest hex code AE57B4 is showing on PP over the US. Believed to be P8 168848..... and in the call sign box is "P84UK"!!

Byronlightning
Posts: 4
Joined: Thu Sep 11, 2014 9:42 pm
Location: Wiltshire

Re: P-8s for the RAF?

Post by Byronlightning » Tue Jun 30, 2015 9:11 pm

Strathayr wrote:If a large number are ordered it would make sense in many respects to reactivity Kinloss the Army could easily be re based easily elseware with minimal effect on their capabilities.
Why do you think they moved soldiers into Kinloss in the first place? They weren't the happiest to go there, but there is nowhere else. It's all part of getting them out of Germany. Waddington makes so much sense, as does the P8.

Post Reply

Return to “Strategic Defence Review”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest