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tc`s Build of Mystery 2014

Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 12:39 pm
by tc2324
Yep..., it`s that time of year again...... ;)

With the T.7 Hunter on hold as I await supplies, I went into the spares box and come out with these....

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So that`s one old manky Monogram F-4, sprues, bits and bobs and one cut to size dio base.

More soon.

Re: tc`s Build of Mystery 2014

Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 3:45 pm
by Flyingmonster
Rocket assisted take off?

Re: tc`s Build of Mystery 2014

Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 4:11 pm
by tc2324
Flyingmonster wrote:Rocket assisted take off?
Not this time mate... ;)

So with the afternoon off work, I`ve started prep work.

First I`ve built some ladders and a step ladder thingy.....

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.... then I started playing with the sprues and making the A frames needed....

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.... and finished off by digging out the intakes as so that you can see through the aircraft......

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Pretty sure this will give the game away.

Re: tc`s Build of Mystery 2014

Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 7:43 pm
by Vulcanone
The Rocket sled test F-4 that they used against a concrete bunker to prove it could store nuclear waste (or whatever it was) and survive an aircrash ???

Tim S

Re: tc`s Build of Mystery 2014

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 6:47 pm
by tc2324
Vulcanone wrote:The Rocket sled test F-4 that they used against a concrete bunker to prove it could store nuclear waste (or whatever it was) and survive an aircrash ???

Tim S
Funny enough I did consider that dio Tim....,

however....,

..... I started working on some of the dio bits and scratch built the stands from sprue bits....,

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..... and I would imagine the next picture will pretty much give the game away....

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Re: tc`s Build of Mystery 2014

Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 8:39 pm
by lhrlima
I've got it! It's an ex U.S Navy F-4J undergoing rework into an RAF one! :thumbs:

Steve.

Re: tc`s Build of Mystery 2014

Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 9:30 pm
by Vulcanone
Or an F-4 about to be moved to a museum (or worse....)

Its being Sunday Brain won't engaged any more tonight....


Tim S

Re: tc`s Build of Mystery 2014

Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 9:49 pm
by sufa 36
F4 in davis monthan diorama? :unsure:

Allan

Re: tc`s Build of Mystery 2014

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 10:14 am
by tc2324
And we have a winner..... :thumb:
sufa 36 wrote:F4 in davis monthan diorama? :unsure:

Allan
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For those interested in the how, first I stuck sand paper down onto the base. I then placed blobs of superglue here and there to add some different texture. Then a spray coat of Humbrol `sand`, some dark wash around the superglue areas finished of by adding the pre made tufts of dry grass.

Obviously this dio is inspired by the Davis Monthan bone yard.

Re: tc`s Build of Mystery 2014

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 11:20 am
by lhrlima
Looking good already! :pop: I wish I had the brains to think of stuff like that!

Steve.

Re: tc`s Build of Mystery 2014

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 11:24 am
by atech
Looking good so far, will be interested in how you do the spraylat.

I have some close up photos if you need them

Atech

Re: tc`s Build of Mystery 2014

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 2:36 pm
by tc2324
Cheers guys. :)
atech wrote:will be interested in how you do the spraylat.
Atech
That is a very good question and one I`ve been thinking about.

I`m gonna play around with some fine electrical tape. You know the stuff you wrap around screws if the fit is a bit loose. Cut to fit and lay flat on top carefully. Then just press it on so it fits the contours.

One major problem I do have however is the fact that one of the canopy tops is missing.

So this may just be a derelict F-4 rather than one in storage.

Re: tc`s Build of Mystery 2014

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 12:49 pm
by tc2324
So I`ve started to rebuild the Phantom and correct the many many issues with it. This involved a shed load of glue, both standard and super, a lot of use of the file, heavy duty clamps a about 5 miles of masking tape to try and get the shape back to how it should be.

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One area that sticks out and really shows it`s age is the front windscreen and instrument panel cover.

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Not really sure how the pilot would get to see whats in front of him judging by this design??

However on a brighter side, my 74 Sqn Hurricane is enjoying it`s temporary dio base......

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Re: tc`s Build of Mystery 2014

Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 8:09 pm
by Vulcanone
tc2324

Very Nice,

I'm in a seemingly never ending struggle to get some Airfix Canberras done, or should that be struggling with disaster after disaster. I gave up posting work in progress photos after the last one! At this rate there may be a Canberra scrapping diorama coming soon. :halo:

Someday I will get the silver paint that works right (not keen on the ALCLAD option) I tried Halfords silver on a couple today, having got speckles on an attempt with Humbrols tins in an airbrush. And got the same effect again, and even worse, a wrinkly effect afterwards (possibly spraying directly over the previous colour I planned to do them???

Any suggestions

Tim S

Re: tc`s Build of Mystery 2014

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 10:47 am
by tc2324
Vulcanone wrote:tc2324

Someday I will get the silver paint that works right (not keen on the ALCLAD option) I tried Halfords silver on a couple today, having got speckles on an attempt with Humbrols tins in an airbrush. And got the same effect again, and even worse, a wrinkly effect afterwards (possibly spraying directly over the previous colour I planned to do them???

Any suggestions

Tim S
Hi Tim,

I personally use Humbrol silver rattle can and I pretty happy with it. Look at my latest 74 Sqn update and the Hunter T.7 to give you an idea. I also give it two or three coats from a reasonable distance once every 10 mins so that I avoid the speckle effect. Also don`t forget that you never spray over anything that is enamel as that can blister. Other than that it`s just a case of practice. I`ve had a fair few `disasters` so don`t get dis-heartened if plan A turns int plan Z.

A bit of a long update on this so bare with me....

Had a look over the weekend at how I could apply faded markings on the aircraft. One idea was to gently rub the decal with a fine abrasive. So I tried that and got this.....

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I then placed in water and got this....

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Oh dear.

So on to plan B and that was to apply the decal normally and then give it a very light spray so again it was placed in the water......

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oh fudge...!

Turns out the decals themselves are so old that they have become allergic to water.

So I then tried the same technique to a new decal......

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It`s not going to well is it?

So I binned the idea and just put the rest of the decals on normally.

BTW, if anyone have black NAVY or MARINE decals they don`t need in 1/48 scale I love to hear from you.

Onto the plan for recreating the Spraylat.

Had the idea of using thread seal tape and here`s the result.

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Not perfect by any means but gives you an idea of what I was trying to achieve and I`ll be redoing this when I have more time.

I`ll finish off with a couple of `overall` pics.

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More soon.

Re: tc`s Build of Mystery 2014

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 12:06 pm
by Reheat2004
Just a suggestion but you could also try putting the decal onto the aircraft and then gently sand when its dry? This can also be used to make the paintwork look old/used.
Kind regards
Stu

Re: tc`s Build of Mystery 2014

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 9:15 pm
by Vulcanone
tc2324

I think you have answered the cause of the blistering problem (in that)

Yep I over sprayed the enamel Light aircraft grey on three Canberras.... :whistle:

It was worse on the two that I have set aside as trials airframes, and they look a tad rough, but apart from a light speckled effect the other B.2 isn't too bad

Ah well, to quote a certain Monty Python film..... Its only a model :ninja:

Cheers for the advice


Tim S

Re: tc`s Build of Mystery 2014

Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 10:21 am
by tc2324
So an update on this experiment using two pictures with different light and shade.....

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..... and tried to use items at my disposal without having to buy anything and a bit of skill, if you can call it that, to make the F-4 look a bit `old`.

Up to you lot to tell me if I`ve done it.

Re: tc`s Build of Mystery 2014

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 3:33 pm
by paddyboy
Hi Buddy :P

I have been on hols, in a 'Wi-Fi' desert for 18 days, so please excuse no replies :blush:

That looks a corkin' result :thumbs:

Best regards

Patrick :clap:

Re: tc`s Build of Mystery 2014

Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 11:12 am
by tc2324
Cheers paddy. :)

So I started looking into staining and `rain` effect and played around with a few ideas. Came up with this....

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