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Last night I watched the first part of Evacuation about the aftermath of the fall of Kabul and found it absolutely riveting. The whole sorry episode was scandalously mismanaged by the Foreign Office who went AWOL (Foreign Secretary on his summer hols as I recall) leaving big decisions to the service personnel on the ground such as the female RAF Police S/Ldr. interviewed in last night's episode. What a shower this Govt. are! As usual the Services were left to try and rescue the situation.

Yeh I watched this too and thought what a total shambles! Felt really sorry for all our service girls and guys who had to make the best of a really bad situation.

Sounds familiar, this is applicable to other countries too...

I didn't see the programme, but instinctively suspect a RAF Police S/Ldr has an infinitely better grasp of how to organise an evacuation than does any politician.

Every one of the Service personnel involved deserve recognition. They should not have been placed in that situation.
As for the politicians involved, they should read the history of this country’s involvement in the area. There will still be a bumper harvest if poppies this year, not for Remembrance Day though!
It’s a sad world.

C24 wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 05, 2023 5:36 am

There will still be a bumper harvest of poppies this year, not for Remembrance Day though!
It’s a sad world.

Seems you might be wrong on that one !

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-65787391

Thanks for proving my prediction to be hopelessly wrong. Excellent news.

We should launch an operation, let’s call it Operation Manna! Dropping sacks of wheat flour throughout the whole country. If the politicians check with the history books, they will find that we did one recently.

But for how long??. The poor people there have no way of making a living!. I agree that the opium should be banned, but how does one deal with all the poverty that is going to ensue??. A huge problem for everyone.

If you look deep enough you will find that they can easily grow wheat to feed themselves, only growing poppies for the money. If they had smaller families and allowed the women to grow the economy life would be better.
If they changed from radical Islam to radical Capitalism the country could evolve to become Grate like this country. Quite a lot of people seem to be migrating to the UK anyway to swamp the infrastructure of this country.
Just for the record, I am as racist as everyone; this afternoon I’m attending hospital to see the Indian surgeon who performed an operation on me three weeks ago. Nice chap, his team included polish, Syrian, Kenyan, Nigerian, Indian and three other non-white medics.
As a Palestinian acquaintance of mine used to repeat to me “Everything is relative and comparative “
End of today’s lecture

P.S.
Grob Tutors are soon to be painted a bright yellow, well at least 20 or so. The sample looked good

Ah, foreigners!!. Have the very good fortune to be married to a half Polish lady for 53 years!. Was operated on for a new hip some years ago by an Iraqi surgeon. Brilliant op, lovely guy.

"Quite a lot of people seem to be migrating to the UK anyway to swamp the infrastructure of this country." Are you saying this is a deliberate tactic? Orchestrated by who?

Anyway I've watched the first two programmes, had to watch the first one twice to really take it all in. Its no wonder people living under oppressive brutal regimes want out and will go to extraordinary lengths at great risk to escape. The desperation of the people in Kabul was beyond my comprehension.

F3 wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 03, 2023 9:55 am

Last night I watched the first part of Evacuation about the aftermath of the fall of Kabul and found it absolutely riveting. The whole sorry episode was scandalously mismanaged by the Foreign Office who went AWOL (Foreign Secretary on his summer hols as I recall) leaving big decisions to the service personnel on the ground such as the female RAF Police S/Ldr. interviewed in last night's episode. What a shower this Govt. are! As usual the Services were left to try and rescue the situation.

Thank you F3 for the heads up, really was worth watching, very sobering.