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POL wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 23, 2022 10:21 am

Presumably Heliops have been training Ukranian crews?!

flasheart wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 23, 2022 3:53 pm

Rumours it's being collected on 28/11.

If the three helicopters were only used as transport helicopters they wouldn't make a difference, but Sea Kings were used by the Royal Navy as anti-submarine helicopters.

And the fact that the Ukrainian crews have had six weeks of training suggests they don't need to be trained to fly a helicopter, but need six weeks of training on the equipment used for anti-submarine warfare.

This would make a lot more sense because the Ukrainians are getting more control over the Western part of the Black Sea west of Crimea, west of Sevastopol.

The only thing the Russians can really do in this area now safely is to use their submarines, of which they have quite a few in their Black Sea fleet.

So my understanding is that these helicopters will probably be used for anti-submarine warfare over the Black Sea.

moonstone_laura wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 23, 2022 5:41 pm

From Professor Michael Clarke, writing for 'Sky News':

If the three helicopters were only used as transport helicopters they wouldn't make a difference, but Sea Kings were used by the Royal Navy as anti-submarine helicopters.

And the fact that the Ukrainian crews have had six weeks of training suggests they don't need to be trained to fly a helicopter, but need six weeks of training on the equipment used for anti-submarine warfare.

This would make a lot more sense because the Ukrainians are getting more control over the Western part of the Black Sea west of Crimea, west of Sevastopol.

The only thing the Russians can really do in this area now safely is to use their submarines, of which they have quite a few in their Black Sea fleet.

So my understanding is that these helicopters will probably be used for anti-submarine warfare over the Black Sea.

Professor_M wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 23, 2022 5:34 pm

flasheart wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 23, 2022 3:53 pm

Rumours it's being collected on 28/11.

Do we know what by? By RAF C-17?

An additional 10,000 artillery rounds will be provided by the UK to help Ukraine defend itself against Russia’s illegal invasion, the Defence Secretary has announced on a visit to Norway.

The rounds will enhance Ukraine’s defensive capability and come as the first delivery of Sea King helicopters arrives in Ukraine to provide key search and rescue capabilities.

The Royal Navy provided a six-week programme of Sea King training in the UK for 10 crews of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and associated engineers.

The additional military aid comes after Prime Minister Rishi Sunak visited Kyiv at the weekend, where he announced a £50 million package of defence aid. That package included 125 anti-aircraft guns and technology to counter deadly Iranian-supplied drones, including dozens of radars and anti-drone electronic warfare capability.